Why is the OBR working so great in other "STATES" ...
.....(Kentucky)Explain why Indiana is so different,and the OBR will not work in our state like it is in others....
are we really that "DIFFERENT"... OK here you go as you requested and FYI there is only one state that due to a bunch of whining by what is obviously some of the poorest or pickiest hunters in this part of the country and the harvest percentages and numbers will likely show what happens when it becomes about nothing more than taking a large antlered old buck only at all cost but the sad part is Indiana is right on their heels .The other OBR states are not rolling in the management slop or taking the number of deer they should either states like OH,PA,KY,NY,IN are really not the perennial top spots are they now?? But IL,IA,WI,MO,MN are taking us by storm they are all TBR states HUMMMMMM!
As we all know Indiana has not gave out a official estimate in a few years .But most biologists and those in the know are in some what a sense of agreement that we are caring between 500,000 and 550,000 deer that is open for debate but it would sound very close to most who truly know our deer herd and its structure.So that said that would be the only number that is not totally validated by our State DNR .I also ask why are they afraid that if those in power at the statehouse or the hunters knew there would be a whole lot to answer for
? I think yes .
Also I believe woody presented us with a statement from Our own DNR that stated most successful deer hunters in our state takes 2 deer a year .So that means that right at 3/4 of all our deer hunters never take a deer throughout the season. this will show how many of your deer killers are likely out of the woods after they take the one buck they are allowed and most have taken their doe by that time as well.
Here is your why Indiana is soooo much different than other OBR states .It is pure numbers and percentages that is what is different and that is indisputable after close examination.All numbers are per each states DNR or game commissions from 2007
sorry I have not got all the figures from 2008 but it will be within a percentage point it always is.Indiana
Deer herd number call it 550,000 or what ever you like \
Total number all deer hunters 222,568
Bow hunters 78,491
Bow hunters took 26,643 total deer
Total take for all seasons including bow was 124,427 <-------so by our own Dnr admission only about 65,000 deer hunters take deer annually since they most take two deer and are done after the buck falls. Pitiful really
Kentucky
Total deer herd number 753,000 they to are also right at a 1-1.5 B to D ratio as well!!
Total all deer hunters 318,500
Bow hunters 102,200
Bow hunters took 15,288 <----- I guess opening a bow season in the depths of the heat of September has its drawbacks
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Total all season including bow 113,436
<---------What a horribly pitiful attempt of hunting and management .They are likely at 1,000,000 deer as of this year with that low of harvest and that many deer.they have 100,000 more deer hunters than we do !!!
Ohio
total deer herd number 700,000
total all season hunters 700,000
total bow hunters 300,000
bow hunters took 78,639 deer
total deer taken all season including bow season 232,854
They do not even reach the 50 % of the herd number and they are by far the most efficient of all the one buck states .It is also estimated that the y may be at or about 900,000 deer as of the start of this deer season. Working like a charm they have 3x the hunters we have!!
New York
total deer numbers 800,000
total all season deer hunters 755,670
total bow hunters 203,890
total harvested by bow 31,060
total taken all seasons including bow 219,141 <---they are totally out of reach of herd control they have 525,000 more hunters than we do!!!!!!
Pennsylvania
total deer herd number way way over 1,000,000 like Idiana they quit making estimates but when they did they were at 1,500,000
total deer hunters all seasons 954,841
total bow hunters 265,841
total harvest with bow 60,890
total all seasons 323,070
I wonder how many deer they will have this year or next or 5 years from now??? Oh by the way they have 720,000 more deer hunters than we do Why with numbers like these are they not taking total control of the books along with NY??? Because they take fewer deer by percentage than we do !!!
We here in Indiana have one huge thing that all the other states do not have or the one thing that is different from the rest is plain and simple very very low hunter numbers per deer herd numbers and we have alot of hunters passing every deer that walks by them with only one in about four pulling the trigger .That is what is different and will stay different except the deer herd will be and is out of control to the point that 1,000,000 may not be but 5 or 6 years away if things do not change . Now find an argument for theses numbers if you want but it will only prove how ignorant that blind support can be for ill though projects when it fills you need!
Sorry Timex
nothing personal for the KY blasting but darn they need to either get better or pull the trigger and forget the antlers for a season or two!!