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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 5, 2007 14:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 5, 2007 14:50:53 GMT -5
I will take an even dozen please . . . .
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Post by snakeeye on Apr 5, 2007 17:47:16 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Ruger, so I'm looking to get a .44 Deerfield, but they are scarce, especially new. I called Ruger, and they said Deerfield production is indefinitely on hold, but I alerted them to our situation here, so perhaps they'll produce a few if the proposed reg goes through. If the proposed reg goes through, please call them and ask them to refire production. Thanks! Snake
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Post by arsnider1 on Apr 5, 2007 18:36:58 GMT -5
I was at the walmart in Greenfield and asked the clerk about cowboy cartridges. He had a book that he said he could order anything out of the book. He did say that eventually they would not sell guns at that walmart.
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Post by varmint101 on Apr 5, 2007 18:52:44 GMT -5
Walmart in Seymour has a Marlin 1894 Cowboy in 44mag that is $571. 20" octogon barrel, straight stock.
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Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 5, 2007 19:01:33 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 5, 2007 19:02:41 GMT -5
Anyone interested in the marlin 1894 might want to check out walmart. I looked through their book the other day and you can order an 1894 in .44 mag. for $395 no ordering charge like Dick's has. That is cheap. Buy it.. I might even make a trip to the Boonville Walmart to see if they can order me one. A man can't have too many toys..
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Post by arsnider1 on Apr 5, 2007 23:13:01 GMT -5
Anyone interested in the marlin 1894 might want to check out walmart. I looked through their book the other day and you can order an 1894 in .44 mag. for $395 no ordering charge like Dick's has. That is cheap. Buy it.. I might even make a trip to the Boonville Walmart to see if they can order me one. A man can't have too many toys.. In May it is a done deal
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Post by dbd870 on Apr 6, 2007 4:21:26 GMT -5
Since were on 44 Marlins; I got mine back from the factory and got around to trying it out last night. I started out using some 210gr reloads which I scattered very nicely (now I'm not happy). Before giving up I pulled out a box of silvertips and tried them, that was much better. I sighted the scope in with them and then switched to my 265gr/H110 loads and they were doing OK as well; I'll have to take it back to 100yds and see how it does. I'm getting the impression this is one finicky rifle, have any of you Marlin owners seen this?
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Post by tenring on Apr 6, 2007 7:48:31 GMT -5
Since were on 44 Marlins; I got mine back from the factory and got around to trying it out last night. I started out using some 210gr reloads which I scattered very nicely (now I'm not happy). Before giving up I pulled out a box of silvertips and tried them, that was much better. I sighted the scope in with them and then switched to my 265gr/H110 loads and they were doing OK as well; I'll have to take it back to 100yds and see how it does. I'm getting the impression this is one finicky rifle, have any of you Marlin owners seen this? Rummage around here for a lot of talk about the 1894s'. www.marlinowners.com/board/viewforum.php?f=32&sid=7298939f5400761c8a279e84fb991b38
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Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 6, 2007 17:47:56 GMT -5
Great link thanks!
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Post by varmint101 on Apr 6, 2007 19:40:30 GMT -5
Not so much I guess, my 1894CB has shot 3 different 240gr loads very well. I have a some 180's, but I've yet to try it in the rifle. I'm thinking it might be too light. From the way I've read it 240-270gr is optimal. Mine has shot very well.
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Post by steveb on Apr 6, 2007 19:48:42 GMT -5
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Post by steveb on Apr 6, 2007 20:02:58 GMT -5
Woody, those bolt saftys are very easy to take out and put a filler plug in the top of the bolt if wanted. I still have mine out, I just havent found anything to fill the hole with yet. ![](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/100_2795resized.jpg) ![](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/100_2800resized.jpg) Also this is how my Rossi chambered in 44Mag is setup now. I have the Williams FP(fool proof) reciever sight with the Marbles green fiber optic front sight. Sure cant wait to drop the hammer. ![](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/2.jpg)
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Post by tenring on Apr 6, 2007 21:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 7, 2007 8:59:26 GMT -5
Hey Steve: A word of warning on the Aircooled WW 180s... they are a touch too hard if you don't catch bone. Mine mushroomed barely/not at all as far as I can tell from the exit wound on my PA doe. I'm going to try a little nose-annealing to soften it up enough to get a bit more expansion (that or casting 2-part bullets) Here's an annealing article: castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=14178&highlight=nose+annealThe important bit: ------------------------------- Anealing the nose of a HTWW bullet is real easy to do. Stand the bullets up in a shallow pan (pie plate) and fill it up with cold water to just at or above the crimp groove. Put a drop of water on the nose (assuming it's a flat point). Heat the nose with a propane torch working both sides of the nose. When the water cooks off your there. Don't hit the drop of water directly with the flame. Leave the bullets standing up until cooled. A more consistent method is to get a 300 degree Tempil stick from a welding supply house. I've tested 30 caliber annealed nose bullets in wet newspaper and they react like Nosler Partitions. Also tested them in one deer. Explosive expansion then the hard shank penetrates deeply. I'm not much of a fan for casting softpoints, and yes I've tried it. Good way to warp and destroy a fine mold. Also, if the mold is casting "just" big enough normally, it's very likely to throw a smaller bullet from the excessive heat. No flaming, just my experience. All of the above methods are trick and have there place, I guess. I've found that following 45 2.1 advise and mixing an alloy of 50/50 WW-Pb solves a lot of problems. When heat treated it hardens to 18-21 Bhn and still expands well above 1,400 fps. Not just riveting and small fragments, but real mushrooms that hold there shape well or fragment into one or two large petals. This alloy is also more accurate than straight HTWW's in every gun I own. -------------------------------------
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 7, 2007 9:22:05 GMT -5
Woody, those bolt saftys are very easy to take out and put a filler plug in the top of the bolt if wanted. I still have mine out, I just havent found anything to fill the hole with yet. Also this is how my Rossi chambered in 44 Mag is setup now. I have the Williams FP(fool proof) reciever sight with the Marbles green fiber optic front sight. Sure cant wait to drop the hammer. Looks to be a very nice set up. I can live with that sight set up, as I think slapping a scope on a lever gun kind of takes away from the looks of the gun. Thanks for sharing that information and pics with us. I'm still in the market for a lever gun and I am leaning more and more towards the Rossi. I am impressed by the feel and more importantly the fit for me. Lightweight and easy to handle. My Ruger 99/44 should be here from Kalifornia Monday and that will be my primary deer gun - as soon as I get it scoped out.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 7, 2007 9:31:06 GMT -5
Since you are getting a .44 Ruger, if you get a Rossi I'd suggest the .357. It has become by primary "go to" gun for everything from squirrels to (hopefully) Deer.
It's all in how you load it.
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Post by drs on Apr 7, 2007 10:00:52 GMT -5
Two of my Brother-in-laws each have a Lever Action .357 Magnum. One has a scoped Marlin and the other a Rossi Puma. Unfortunately neither of them hunts.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 7, 2007 11:07:30 GMT -5
Two of my Brother-in-laws each have a Lever Action .357 Magnum. One has a scoped Marlin and the other a Rossi Puma. Unfortunately neither of them hunts. Time to change that... ;D .357 is a solid deer gun out to 100yds.
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