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Post by jajwrigh on Jul 12, 2006 6:18:46 GMT -5
After everyone looks at the above date, how can they say "no?" For those who did, why not defend your argument a little? I am curious to hear your perspectives...
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Post by drs on Jul 12, 2006 7:32:57 GMT -5
Good Post, ihunt2liv! I posted a similar comparison table on another forum.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 12, 2006 9:45:48 GMT -5
Gents and ladies,
This meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday.
The sooner that you get your comments in the sooner they can use them. If you wait, it might be too late.
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Post by drs on Jul 12, 2006 10:05:16 GMT -5
Woody, I guess it would be counterproductive to post the e-mail contact address on "HH", as they seem quite divided on this. I am getting the feeling that most are against it except for a few members, over there, that are open-minded about it. Lots of back & forth arguing.  |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 12, 2006 10:08:09 GMT -5
Woody, I guess it would be counterproductive to post the e-mail contact address on "HH", as they seem quite divided on this. I am getting the feeling that most are against it except for a few members, over there, that are open-minded about it. Lots of back & forth arguing. Post it wherever you like. The more input that the NRC and the IDNR recieves the better decision that can be made. I personally have seen more positive comments about legalization of the pistol cartridge rifles than negative ones. . |
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Post by drs on Jul 12, 2006 10:26:01 GMT -5
Thanks, Woody! I'll go ahead and give it a try.
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Post by tskiller on Jul 12, 2006 11:10:45 GMT -5
I have no problem with the pistol cartridges being used in rifles. What I have a problem with is that there should be a limit on the number of bullets in the rifle. Single shot or 5 rounds or less would make me happy. We don't need Chuck freaking Conners blasting 15 rounds rapid fire in the woods. Five 12 ga. shots are enough to get me worried.
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Post by indianahick on Jul 12, 2006 11:48:48 GMT -5
Voted for pistol caliber rifles.
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Post by ihunt2liv on Jul 12, 2006 12:18:20 GMT -5
Hello,
I did a little more research today with overall cartridge lengths and sizes to see what calibres are cosidered legal under the proposed rule changes. Obviously some of these cartidges are out of production but the following meet the criteria set.
.357mag, .44 rem mag., .45 win mag., .45colt., .44colt., .38long colt c.f., 38/40 wcf, 44/40win., .41rem mag., 454 casull, .50ae.
The only long guns currently available are lever actions by Winchester with the model 94 in .44rem mag., .357, .45 colt. These are usually 10 shot. Marlin markets the 1894 in the same calibres but are 10 shot. H&R has a single shot in .44. There could be others that I overlooked but the ones listed are the most popular.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 12, 2006 12:20:34 GMT -5
Hello, I did a little more research today with overall cartridge lengths and sizes to see what calibres are cosidered legal under the proposed rule changes. Obviously some of these cartidges are out of production but the following meet the criteria set. .357mag, .44 rem mag., .45 win mag., .45colt., .44colt., .38long colt c.f., 38/40 wcf, 44/40win., .41rem mag., 454 casull, .50ae. The only long guns currently available are lever actions by Winchester with the model 94 in .44rem mag., .357, .45 colt. These are usually 10 shot. Marlin markets the 1894 in the same calibres but are 10 shot. H&R has a single shot in .44. There could be others that I overlooked but the ones listed are the most popular. Good info... but is Winchester still making them? |
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Post by drs on Jul 12, 2006 12:27:32 GMT -5
Marlin makes Lever Actions in .357 Mag, .44 Mag, .45 L.C., but I am not sure about the .454 casull. Rossi make a number of pistol cartridge Lever Actions; I got one of their Puma M-92's in .44-40 WCF, bought it back in 1983. Ruger makes their M-96 which is a lever action in .44 Mag, and also their M-77/.44 Mag. Bolt Action. Both of which only hold 4 rounds.
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Post by mbogo on Jul 12, 2006 13:26:20 GMT -5
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Post by pbr on Jul 12, 2006 16:26:37 GMT -5
Good move on the DNR's part.
We should be able to hunt deer with any deer capable weapon.
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Post by ihunt2liv on Jul 13, 2006 1:32:17 GMT -5
Hello,
Sorry I left a few other manufacturers out thanks for bringing them up. I completely forgot about the Rossi pumps and Ruger levers.
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Post by huxbux on Jul 13, 2006 15:11:45 GMT -5
I have no problem with the pistol cartridges being used in rifles. What I have a problem with is that there should be a limit on the number of bullets in the rifle. Single shot or 5 rounds or less would make me happy. We don't need Chuck freaking Conners blasting 15 rounds rapid fire in the woods. Five 12 ga. shots are enough to get me worried. I'm E-mailing the NRC to voice my support for this regulation change, because I agree with allowing pistol cartridge rifles. That being said, I think tskiller has brought up a good point here, that maybe we've all overlooked. I know little of lever action rifles, but if possible, the requirement of a plug might be a good idea. |
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Post by tgrindlay on Jul 13, 2006 15:23:36 GMT -5
"IF sportsmen would only use the cartridges proposed, that might not be a bad thing. But, we all know what will happen. They will take longer range cartridges in the field and use them instead of those proposed."
I am a landowner and lease 3 properties to deer hunters. I have a 4th property that some of my friends deer hunt. I will make it very clear that rifles are not to be used on my properties.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 13, 2006 16:54:43 GMT -5
"IF sportsmen would only use the cartridges proposed, that might not be a bad thing. But, we all know what will happen. They will take longer range cartridges in the field and use them instead of those proposed." I am a landowner and lease 3 properties to deer hunters. I have a 4th property that some of my friends deer hunt. I will make it very clear that rifles are not to be used on my properties. That is a choice that every landowner can make. Just because something is legalized does not mean that a landowner HAS to allow it. The same goes if we went back to a two buck rule. A landowner can set an OBR or even some soprt of antler restrictions if he wants. The IDNR sets a maximum amount of deer we can take and what we can take them with. The landowner really calls the shots (no pun) on what can be used.
NO ONE is forcing anyone to pick up a lever action and use it. It is just another choice..... |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 17, 2006 8:17:38 GMT -5
LAST CHANCE…..The NRC meeting is Tuesday - that is tomorrow If you want to be heard on this subject or any of the others that they are putting forward contact the NRC today at.. www.in.gov/nrc/contact/.....or show up in person at..NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING Atterbury Fish and Wildlife Area Office 7970 South Rowe Street Edinburgh, Indiana July 18, 2006 1:00 P.M., EDT (12:00 Noon, CDT)
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Post by bschwein on Dec 12, 2006 10:43:42 GMT -5
Whats the latest on this. I local Conservation officer said it was a done deal. Is that correct?
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Post by drs on Dec 12, 2006 10:45:04 GMT -5
Don't know, at this time.  |
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