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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Apr 4, 2022 6:56:11 GMT -5
I talked to some of the Ohio guys that hunt Indiana for decades and this year they all said buck hunting only. Couple mentioned they are taking 1st buck seen to fill the freezer. No more being selective.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 4, 2022 7:11:48 GMT -5
I talked to some of the Ohio guys that hunt Indiana for decades and this year they all said buck hunting only. Couple mentioned they are taking 1st buck seen to fill the freezer. No more being selective. Do these guys Own, Lease or hunt public land?
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Post by span870 on Apr 4, 2022 7:13:09 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt indiana allow non resident landowners to hunt their land without a license as long as home state has reciprocity? If a non resident landowner has an issue with the license increases, shouldn't their argument then be with their home state?
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Post by span870 on Apr 4, 2022 7:18:49 GMT -5
I talked to some of the Ohio guys that hunt Indiana for decades and this year they all said buck hunting only. Couple mentioned they are taking 1st buck seen to fill the freezer. No more being selective. Do these guys Own, Lease or hunt public land? This one has me a bit curious too. If I'm mad about the cost of license, I sure as heck ain't spending the money to shoot a spike. I just don't understand the argument. At the same time, I'm probably thought of as an idiot by many of the same. I've been on numerous hunts out west with outfitter and not only ate the cost of the tag but cost of the hunt because I couldn't find one that was "just right". $400 +/- for license to be able to hunt all year is a pretty good bargain to me.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Apr 4, 2022 7:29:14 GMT -5
I talked to some of the Ohio guys that hunt Indiana for decades and this year they all said buck hunting only. Couple mentioned they are taking 1st buck seen to fill the freezer. No more being selective. Do these guys Own, Lease or hunt public land? I don't think any do. They are all older than me and hunted friends farms in SE Indiana. They all started way back in the early 80's. I think bow hunting will also fad away and they will just gun hunt. I don't know what their sons and daughters will do. It will be interesting what each one choices.
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Post by jjas on Apr 4, 2022 7:31:05 GMT -5
span870
I agree 100%. It would make zero sense to spend $240 just to shoot a spike for spite.
Threatening to do that reminds me of the old saying about "cutting your nose off to spite your face".
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Post by HighCotton on Apr 4, 2022 7:57:09 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt indiana allow non resident landowners to hunt their land without a license as long as home state has reciprocity? If a non resident landowner has an issue with the license increases, shouldn't their argument then be with their home state? Yes sir! This is one option we are looking at. Virginia does have that reciprocity.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 6, 2022 12:29:35 GMT -5
You need to ask the NRC these questions since they are the group that recommended the increase, not the DNR. Here is their answer…. Thank you for contacting the Natural Resources Commission (NRC). Regarding the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) fee increase package that went before the Commission at the September 2021 meeting and took effect in 2022. Some of those fees had not been increased since the 1980’s and the costs to maintain healthy habitats, provide public access, and educate the next generation of hunters and anglers continue to increase. Funds from license sales are used to manage fish and wildlife resources and enforce fish and wildlife laws. Learn more about how DFW is funded: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/about-us/funding-and-license-sales/. New fees were determined by conducting a comparison of license costs in other Midwestern states and by looking at how fish and wildlife management costs have changed since the last time prices were set. The DNR would better be able to answer technical questions and the Division of Fish and Wildlife are included in this email response. If you have additional questions reach out to them or go to their webpage at: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/licenses-and-permits/fee-changes/ Thank you, Natural Resources Commission – Division of Hearings Indiana Government Center North 100 North Senate Avenue – Room N103 Indianapolis, IN 46204 Phone: (317) 232-4699 www.in.gov/nrc/SA
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Post by firstwd on Apr 6, 2022 12:59:21 GMT -5
You need to ask the NRC these questions since they are the group that recommended the increase, not the DNR. Here is their answer…. Thank you for contacting the Natural Resources Commission (NRC). Regarding the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) fee increase package that went before the Commission at the September 2021 meeting and took effect in 2022. Some of those fees had not been increased since the 1980’s and the costs to maintain healthy habitats, provide public access, and educate the next generation of hunters and anglers continue to increase. Funds from license sales are used to manage fish and wildlife resources and enforce fish and wildlife laws. Learn more about how DFW is funded: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/about-us/funding-and-license-sales/. New fees were determined by conducting a comparison of license costs in other Midwestern states and by looking at how fish and wildlife management costs have changed since the last time prices were set. The DNR would better be able to answer technical questions and the Division of Fish and Wildlife are included in this email response. If you have additional questions reach out to them or go to their webpage at: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/licenses-and-permits/fee-changes/ Thank you, Natural Resources Commission – Division of Hearings Indiana Government Center North 100 North Senate Avenue – Room N103 Indianapolis, IN 46204 Phone: (317) 232-4699 www.in.gov/nrc/SA So everybody is playing a game of hot potato and nobody wants to try to answer why the legislature refuses to fully fund the DNR, including members of the legislature.
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Post by jjas on Apr 6, 2022 13:01:54 GMT -5
firstwd
I noticed that myself. The old "no answer, answer"...
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Post by greghopper on Apr 6, 2022 13:25:05 GMT -5
firstwd I noticed that myself. The old "no answer, answer"... I expected something along that line being they didn’t take public input to do the changes…. It is what it is at this point it seems!
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Post by firstwd on Apr 6, 2022 15:10:40 GMT -5
firstwd I noticed that myself. The old "no answer, answer"... I expected something along that line being they didn’t take public input to do the changes…. It is what it is at this point it seems! One, if not both, of my local state legislators is on their respective chamber's natural resources committee and we aren't finished talking.
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Post by elmucho277 on Apr 6, 2022 21:16:29 GMT -5
You need to ask the NRC these questions since they are the group that recommended the increase, not the DNR. Here is their answer…. Thank you for contacting the Natural Resources Commission (NRC). Regarding the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) fee increase package that went before the Commission at the September 2021 meeting and took effect in 2022. Some of those fees had not been increased since the 1980’s and the costs to maintain healthy habitats, provide public access, and educate the next generation of hunters and anglers continue to increase. Funds from license sales are used to manage fish and wildlife resources and enforce fish and wildlife laws. Learn more about how DFW is funded: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/about-us/funding-and-license-sales/. New fees were determined by conducting a comparison of license costs in other Midwestern states and by looking at how fish and wildlife management costs have changed since the last time prices were set. The DNR would better be able to answer technical questions and the Division of Fish and Wildlife are included in this email response. If you have additional questions reach out to them or go to their webpage at: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/licenses-and-permits/fee-changes/ Thank you, Natural Resources Commission – Division of Hearings Indiana Government Center North 100 North Senate Avenue – Room N103 Indianapolis, IN 46204 Phone: (317) 232-4699 www.in.gov/nrc/SA That's a canned answer, the exact reply I received verbatim. Must be getting a lot of public input on this after the fact, and rightfully so
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Post by greghopper on Apr 6, 2022 21:38:45 GMT -5
Here is their answer…. Thank you for contacting the Natural Resources Commission (NRC). Regarding the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) fee increase package that went before the Commission at the September 2021 meeting and took effect in 2022. Some of those fees had not been increased since the 1980’s and the costs to maintain healthy habitats, provide public access, and educate the next generation of hunters and anglers continue to increase. Funds from license sales are used to manage fish and wildlife resources and enforce fish and wildlife laws. Learn more about how DFW is funded: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/about-us/funding-and-license-sales/. New fees were determined by conducting a comparison of license costs in other Midwestern states and by looking at how fish and wildlife management costs have changed since the last time prices were set. The DNR would better be able to answer technical questions and the Division of Fish and Wildlife are included in this email response. If you have additional questions reach out to them or go to their webpage at: www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/licenses-and-permits/fee-changes/ Thank you, Natural Resources Commission – Division of Hearings Indiana Government Center North 100 North Senate Avenue – Room N103 Indianapolis, IN 46204 Phone: (317) 232-4699 www.in.gov/nrc/SA That's a canned answer, the exact reply I received verbatim. Must be getting a lot of public input on this after the fact, and rightfully so I am sure many have inquired but I bet it’s not about the NR Bundle probably most are asking about resident license in general. I didn’t ask about any one type of license I asked about all licensing in general. I am sure they know anytime the cost of something goes up people complain about it and swear they aren't going to buy it, watch it, eat it or shop there. And then they do...
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Post by buckert on Apr 6, 2022 21:43:38 GMT -5
Ouch! I just purchased my in state fishing/trout stamp and turkey tag/stamp for 2022 and I was at $83 with online fees. With the deer bundle and fall turkey I’ll be around $200 in licenses. Last year I was about $150. While I can afford it and I truly understand the need for license fees, this one is stinging a little and I can’t imagine how that feels for the NR folks that have been discussed in this forum. For someone with access to poor private land opportunities (sharing small acreage with other hunters and highly pressured) and limited opportunities for quality hunting on public land in the north I am getting to the point where I may prioritize other expenses over hunting. I was granted access on some new private to turkey hunt this spring so I decided at the last minute to get a tag (there will also be other hunters and high pressure to contend with). Otherwise I would have probably not wasted $40 on the turkey draw hunt lotteries at local f&w areas.
My point here is that while I can afford it, I also have other obligations and priorities, especially to my family. If I’m having a hard time justifying a $50 increase I can’t imagine what that’s like for these NR folks in this thread.
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Post by tenring on Apr 20, 2022 18:53:17 GMT -5
Wow, made me dig through my wallet to double check my license situation just for the hell of it. LIFETIME COMPREHENSIVE HUNTING LICENSE #2058 issued January 27, 1988. Brought back memories of wondering if that was a good deal. Even if I should have not participated in hunting for a few years for whatever reason, that small piece of paper has payed for itself many times over. I put it in between two heavy pieces of see through plastic to protect it, and it still looks like as good as if I had just bought it. Cannot remember what I paid for that license, but glad I started saving money for that and I finaly "got ur dun"!
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Post by mgf on Apr 23, 2022 7:59:45 GMT -5
Well, I'm 63 and I've been hunting all my life...mostly hunting for a place to hunt. I wish I could get a pay increase like they just got. The fishing is good around here so I'll bite the bullet and buy a fishing license but the hunting stinks so I might just be done with it.
The DNR is just another bloated self serving bureaucracy.
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Post by mgf on Apr 23, 2022 8:04:23 GMT -5
And next year I can buy a sr fishing license for $3 so I'm only buying one more fishing license for full price. They don't do anything for seniors on the hunting license.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jul 8, 2022 9:29:19 GMT -5
Well, I bought my deer license for this season. Just went with a military refuge license.
I normally get a bundle and a military refuge license, but I haven't actually used the bundle the last couple of years. If I decide I want to hunt some private other than my own property this season, or hit some public land, I'll pick up another license at that time.
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