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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 17, 2021 12:06:46 GMT -5
I would assume that the in goal ! Silly me...here I thought this was about getting more money in the DNR coffers, not preventing hunters from hunting. .
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Post by greghopper on Dec 17, 2021 12:12:18 GMT -5
I would assume that the in goal ! Silly me...here I thought this was about getting more money in the DNR coffers, not preventing hunters from hunting. . Maybe email them and they can explain the reasoning behind the increase. Sure they didn’t just come up with the figure with out a reason! BTW…. Hope everyone gave input when it was asks for.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 17, 2021 12:46:17 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of raising prices just because it's "been awhile". Show me what any realized revenue increases are going to fund, specifically, and I'll be fully on board.
As far as the NR prices, I agree that not many will stop coming because of the increases. The landowner who owns on 3 sides of me leases to nonresidents who come during firearms season only. One guy comes for a couple weeks during archery. Between the thousands of dollars for the lease, the fuel they burn to travel here, the house they rent to stay in, etc., they probably won't even notice the $90 increase for their licenses.
Just looking at the individual buck tag prices, Indiana is still less than half the cost of "big buck" states like Iowa or Kansas.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 17, 2021 12:49:49 GMT -5
Exactly…. Most folks coming are hunting antlers anyway If your only hunting ONE season the bundle may not be best choice anyway! Both the Resident and NR firearm (antlered deer only) went up about the same percentage. Thats the way it should be. The NR bundle % increase is where it's out of line, The Bundle is a multi season license…. Assuming that’s why it increased at higher rate IMO
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Post by esshup on Dec 17, 2021 13:01:02 GMT -5
Again, I'm very thankful that I purchased the lifetime license when I did.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 17, 2021 13:08:27 GMT -5
Both the Resident and NR firearm (antlered deer only) went up about the same percentage. Thats the way it should be. The NR bundle % increase is where it's out of line, The Bundle is a multi season license…. Assuming that’s why it increased at higher rate IMO WHAT?
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 17, 2021 13:18:22 GMT -5
The Bundle is a multi season license…. Assuming that’s why it increased at higher rate IMO WHAT? Thought I read the Non Resident bundle went up 80% and resident 40%
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Post by greghopper on Dec 17, 2021 13:18:45 GMT -5
The Bundle is a multi season license…. Assuming that’s why it increased at higher rate IMO WHAT? Archery, Gun, Muzzleloader and late antlerless season I should of worded the first statement better… sorry!
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 17, 2021 13:20:58 GMT -5
Again, I'm very thankful that I purchased the lifetime license when I did. Yea, If I recall the DNR was raising money for something but dont recall what? Regardless at todays prices I would imagine the price would be more than most could afford. I'm a landowner and lifetime license holder so no more $$$ outta me.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 17, 2021 13:27:20 GMT -5
Archery, Gun, Muzzleloader and late antlerless season I should of worded the first statement better… sorry! Yes, I know what "multi season" is but that still doesnt hold water on that big of percentage increase. Its percentages of a starting point Greg. Its not like the DNR suddenly realized its a "multi season license"
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Post by greghopper on Dec 17, 2021 13:31:57 GMT -5
Archery, Gun, Muzzleloader and late antlerless season I should of worded the first statement better… sorry! Yes, I know what "multi season" is but that still doesnt hold water on that big of percentage increase. Its percentages of a starting point Greg. Its not like the DNR suddenly realized its a "multi season license" So why do think there was such a large increase in the NR Bundle?
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Post by jman46151 on Dec 17, 2021 13:34:24 GMT -5
I don’t think doubling the price will stop many from still hunting here. Most know what this state produces each year and they want in on that action. Plus you don’t have to get drawn to hunt. Wonder how many actually buy the bundle anyways.
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Post by jjas on Dec 17, 2021 14:02:23 GMT -5
In the end, some from out of state will complain, but if you really want to gun hunt in Indiana, $240 to buck hunt is still a bargain IMO.
I have a couple of buddies who come in from Georgia and Iowa to gun hunt and neither one complained about the licenses going up next year.
Both come here to buck hunt anyway, so they both said they will pay the $240 and keep hunting Indiana.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 17, 2021 14:12:13 GMT -5
Yes, I know what "multi season" is but that still doesnt hold water on that big of percentage increase. Its percentages of a starting point Greg. Its not like the DNR suddenly realized its a "multi season license" So why do think there was such a large increase in the NR Bundle? As compared to other neighboring states INDIANA's non residents licenses were very cheap. (I've always said they should be reciprocal from hunter's resident state.) I would guess they finally realized the money they were leaving on the table is reason for increases.
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Post by parkerbow on Dec 17, 2021 15:31:04 GMT -5
I agree, the NR tags were too cheap and we needed to get in-line with neighboring states. The NR's just need to be glad we don't have a point system like Iowa does. There's is 65.00 a preference point and now you need about 4 points to be able hunt which is every 5th year you could be drawn. So by the time you buy the points and the tag you will have around 800 bucks in it. For residents 39.00 bucks still is not bad. That is only a tank of gas and about 2 cases of beer. No matter what not everyone will be pleased.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Dec 17, 2021 15:39:29 GMT -5
Yep... They just pushed my Non-Resident grandson to be a buck only deer hunter while he is hunting with me.. My best friend and I have hunted every year together since we both got out of the military. He lives in Tennessee now and, even though it’s much cheaper to hunt in state, he has still been here every year and we’ve had many great memories. With this price increase, it may make it too much for him to justify the travel, the license, the process fee, and all that goes into two or three weekends of hunting. I hope that is not the case, but that is very possible. Greg Hopper - if you look at the increases for nonresidents, it appears as though they specifically targeted nonresident deer hunters. Turkey fee only increased 55 dollars. The game bird stamp for a nonresident did double but it is still only 11 dollars. That means an out of state turkey hunter is going to pay 200 bucks and get one bird. An out of state deer hunter is going to pay 550 and get three deer. Kentucky, you pay 335 and get three deer or 315 and get three turkeys. Ohio, little over 200 dollars and you get two turkeys. For deer, I believe it is 260 and some change and you get two deer. Both are neighboring states, both have similar or better hunting, and both have more public land available. Why do we think we should charge more? Man if I had an Ohio farm I would welcome you every year. I have only 3 and hunt the neighborhood of 30 acres. I'm also an Indiana LTL holder so I'm lucky that it doesn't affect me.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 17, 2021 15:45:02 GMT -5
Don't forget about the "simplification" of the license structure that will be keeping crossbows on a separate license for "data collection" purposes.
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Post by welder on Dec 17, 2021 16:03:19 GMT -5
So glad I have had a lifetime comprehensive hunting license for 25+ years. I have kicked myself dozens of times for not getting hunting/fishing.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 17, 2021 16:23:08 GMT -5
I got tired of giving Kentucky around $350 for the NR hunting license and 2-turkey tag, pretty ridiculous. We have ALWAYS been too easy on NR hunters, imo. You know, we are a destination for world class deer (at least one or two a year), lol
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Post by greghopper on Dec 17, 2021 16:23:39 GMT -5
So why do think there was such a large increase in the NR Bundle? As compared to other neighboring states INDIANA's non residents licenses were very cheap. (I've always said they should be reciprocal from hunter's resident state.) I would guess they finally realized the money they were leaving on the table is reason for increases. I get that…. But like I asked Woody why do you think the NR Bundle made a bigger increase then other NR license increases? That’s the license that getting the most complaints here!
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