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Post by duff on Mar 14, 2021 6:34:33 GMT -5
For a guy who hates working on vehicles but also hates paying a mechanic to fix a 1997 Honda civic...rusted and rounded nuts are more evidence why I am in the environmental biz! I am in awe of you guys who can fix anything. I struggled with every part except taking the tire off. Now waiting on some tools to be delivered. Probably hit them again with pb blaster and torch. I don't think I heated them up enough.
If all else fails I will cut the lines and pound a socket on. I have to replace several pieces anyways, just wanted in tact when I go to the auto parts store.
Did learn what a line wrench is...who would have thought.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Mar 14, 2021 7:44:32 GMT -5
Must be working on the brakes ?
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Post by blackmouthcur on Mar 14, 2021 7:45:50 GMT -5
Vice grips come in handy for those rounded out bleeders.
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Post by scrub-buster on Mar 14, 2021 8:04:53 GMT -5
The brake lines blew on my suburban last fall. I didn't feel like fighting with it for hours. I outsourced it to a guy who does mechanical work on the side. He was very reasonably priced. I'm glad I went that route.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 14, 2021 8:14:02 GMT -5
Never use a open end wrench on anything that is rusted....
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Post by HighCotton on Mar 14, 2021 8:14:20 GMT -5
First off, I would say you are on the right path. Those fittings are always a bear. My experience has been to use plenty of heat. Hit it immediately with something like PB Blaster. Iโm cautious but I really donโt get too concerned about the โfire hazard.โ Always use a line wrench. If rounded off, as mentioned the vice grips are the usual option. Few other tips, The more heat, the better! Try tapping the wrench or Vice grips with a hammer in a clockwise direction. I know this seems counter productive but when it comes to old or rusty fittings, A brisk bit of tapping in the last direction it was tightened will be just enough to break that rusty bond! Other than that, yeah! Those can just be a bear!
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Post by featherduster on Mar 14, 2021 8:40:09 GMT -5
Duff: FYI your 1997 Honda is old enough to qualify for antique license plates here in Indiana.
JUST SAYING!
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Post by duff on Mar 14, 2021 8:46:06 GMT -5
Duff: FYI your 1997 Honda is old enough to qualify for antique license plates here in Indiana. JUST SAYING! 71k miles on this antique. If I can't get this brake line fixed it may die an early death!
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Post by greghopper on Mar 14, 2021 8:51:34 GMT -5
Duff: FYI your 1997 Honda is old enough to qualify for antique license plates here in Indiana. JUST SAYING! 71k miles on this antique. If I can't get this brake line fixed it may die an early death! Just cut at bad spot and add high pressure hose(fuel line) and two clamps.... Change line at later date!
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Post by deadeer on Mar 14, 2021 8:55:31 GMT -5
Heat to cherry red, then douse with water. Heat and quench method. Repeat twice. PB blaster soak after that. Then cut and pound socket as you stated. Been there and done this o many times it's in the bible.
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Post by deadeer on Mar 14, 2021 8:56:27 GMT -5
71k miles on this antique. If I can't get this brake line fixed it may die an early death! Just cut at bad spot and add high pressure hose(fuel line) and two clamps.... Change line at later date! That's NOT in the bible tho!
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Post by duff on Mar 14, 2021 8:56:49 GMT -5
71k miles on this antique. If I can't get this brake line fixed it may die an early death! Just cut at bad spot and add high pressure hose(fuel line) and two clamps.... Change line at later date! Problem is the spot that dumps into the wheel cylinder so I have to remove it from that too. The whole thing is a rusted mess back there. I thought...it can't be too bad. Have all weekend and by Sunday should be fine. Been working with vice grips and they slip now too. I am going to cut the line and replace wheel cylinder and lines but may have to go the slice route. The line has 3 unions from wheel cylinder to where the line dissappears behind the bottom shield
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Post by bullseye69 on Mar 14, 2021 9:11:31 GMT -5
Only issue with heat on the line nut that has gotten me is heating the nut on the opposite side of the hose. To much heat and pop goes the hose. So be careful on those.
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Post by bullseye69 on Mar 14, 2021 9:14:19 GMT -5
I've got 3 pair of these. Some have teeth like vise grips and one doesn't. The harder you pull the tighter they get. They are great for brake lines ect.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 14, 2021 9:25:03 GMT -5
Just cut at bad spot and add high pressure hose(fuel line) and two clamps.... Change line at later date! Problem is the spot that dumps into the wheel cylinder so I have to remove it from that too. The whole thing is a rusted mess back there. I thought...it can't be too bad. Have all weekend and by Sunday should be fine. Been working with vice grips and they slip now too. I am going to cut the line and replace wheel cylinder and lines but may have to go the slice route. The line has 3 unions from wheel cylinder to where the line dissappears behind the bottom shield Use curved jaw not flat jaw vise grips....
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Post by greghopper on Mar 14, 2021 9:36:44 GMT -5
Just cut at bad spot and add high pressure hose(fuel line) and two clamps.... Change line at later date! That's NOT in the bible tho! O well....sometimes you got to go outside the Box (book)!
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Post by bullseye69 on Mar 14, 2021 9:43:51 GMT -5
71k miles on this antique. If I can't get this brake line fixed it may die an early death! Just cut at bad spot and add high pressure hose(fuel line) and two clamps.... Change line at later date! We used compression fittings. Stronger than fuel hose but still not a legal repair.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 14, 2021 9:54:14 GMT -5
Just cut at bad spot and add high pressure hose(fuel line) and two clamps.... Change line at later date! We used compression fittings. Stronger than fuel hose but still not a legal repair. True....Heck I have brazed brake line leaks on farm equipment back in the day!
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Post by treetop on Mar 14, 2021 10:54:46 GMT -5
Duff: FYI your 1997 Honda is old enough to qualify for antique license plates here in Indiana. JUST SAYING! 71k miles on this antique. If I can't get this brake line fixed it may die an early death! I know someone whoโs probably got more miles on his 1972 John Deere mower ๐ itโs not running either
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Post by deadeer on Mar 14, 2021 11:02:00 GMT -5
We used compression fittings. Stronger than fuel hose but still not a legal repair. True....Heck I have brazed brake line leaks on farm equipment back in the day! True. BUT that's not driving on the road at speed. As a temp fix to get home sure, but not as a permanent fix. Not arguing here, just dont want to give anybody ideas that a gas line and hose clamps is safe. I would rather pound the brake line shut, kink it over, or vice grips on a rubber hose to pinch off and get home than fell like its rigged and blow out and kill somebody.
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