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Post by mgderf on Jan 5, 2020 12:39:32 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, the trial period for high-power rifles for deer hunting in Indiana is now over.
In the 5 years past, I cannot remember hearing or reading about any of the pending doom and carnage that high-power rifle use was supposed to bring when implemented.
So, what do the Indiana hunters think?
Will we continue to enjoy the use of HPR's on private property?
Do you think the powers that be may actually extend it tp public property?
I want to see HPR's made permanent for use on private land, but I really haven't hunted enough public land to really feel qualified to make that choice.
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Post by parson on Jan 5, 2020 13:19:21 GMT -5
I know that some folks are awaiting a definitive word on this before they buy a new firearm- a nephew of mine being one.
I don't see any legitimate reason to go backwards- in fact, I'm in hopes that I'll be able to use my .308 in the future on public, as well as private, land.
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Post by tomthreetoes on Jan 5, 2020 13:24:50 GMT -5
I know that some folks are awaiting a definitive word on this before they buy a new firearm- a nephew of mine being one. I don't see any legitimate reason to go backwards- in fact, I'm in hopes that I'll be able to use my .308 in the future on public, as well as private, land. X2,I have a couple rifles sighted in for shortened ammo ie 1.8" and would like to know what the rules will be before I sight them in for full length brass.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 5, 2020 13:25:07 GMT -5
This is set to expire on June 30, I believe. Without action, we go "backwards".
Now, there should be something in the system that triggers a relook I would think. But depending on what other high important things are on the agenda this may just expire. If you truly want this to stick around, you need to find who the original authors were and remind them of the expiration.
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Post by mgderf on Jan 5, 2020 13:27:42 GMT -5
This is set to expire on June 30, I believe. Without action, we go "backwards". Now, there should be something in 5he system that triggers a relook I would think. But depending on what other high important things are on the agenda this may just expire. If you truly want this to stick around, you need to find who the original authors were and remind them of the expiration. I thought the original bill (or at least the one that passed) was supposed to include a "review" of the trial period, with considerations for continuation.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 5, 2020 13:54:37 GMT -5
If there as SAFE as being stated,they should also be allowed on all public land. Make sure you keep that in your reminders to the authors.
How about just having the DNR introduce them in law!
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Post by jjas on Jan 5, 2020 14:52:34 GMT -5
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Post by js2397 on Jan 5, 2020 15:49:40 GMT -5
Is the ending of 1/1/2020 mean that the antlerless and reduction seasons should not have allowed hprs after the new year?
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Post by greghopper on Jan 5, 2020 16:05:00 GMT -5
Someone start popping the popcorn.....here we go!
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Post by parson on Jan 5, 2020 16:20:42 GMT -5
I know that some folks are awaiting a definitive word on this before they buy a new firearm- a nephew of mine being one. I don't see any legitimate reason to go backwards- in fact, I'm in hopes that I'll be able to use my .308 in the future on public, as well as private, land. X2,I have a couple rifles sighted in for shortened ammo ie 1.8" and would like to know what the rules will be before I sight them in for full length brass. I carry a .35 Rem. on public ground. Pull bullets, trim brass, reload bullet to original OAL. Don't make a whole lotta sense. Hopefully, we can get beyond this.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 5, 2020 16:40:49 GMT -5
Apparently the IDNR is required by law to report to the General Assembly on the effects of high-powered rifles for deer by February 15:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 16:47:06 GMT -5
Apparently the IDNR is required by law to report to the General Assembly on the effects of high-powered rifles for deer by February 15: It seems that when these trials are put into place, that the intent appears to be to permanently implement them, unless problems are discovered during the trial period. It wouldn`t make sense to even initiate them in the first place otherwise. Since there aren`t any known detrimental effects to the herd, and no safety issues showed up during the trial period, it would only stand to reason that the use of the centerfire rifles specifically mentioned during this trial period will be made permanent.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 5, 2020 17:32:09 GMT -5
Apparently the IDNR is required by law to report to the General Assembly on the effects of high-powered rifles for deer by February 15: It seems that when these trials are put into place, that the intent appears to be to permanently implement them, unless problems are discovered during the trial period. It wouldn`t make sense to even initiate them in the first place otherwise. Since there aren`t any known detrimental effects to the herd, and no safety issues showed up during the trial period, it would only stand to reason that the use of the centerfire rifles specifically mentioned during this trial period will be made permanent. With the Buck harvest at a all time high I am sure some will see that as a detrimental effect.... we shall see!
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Post by esshup on Jan 5, 2020 17:32:39 GMT -5
I know that some folks are awaiting a definitive word on this before they buy a new firearm- a nephew of mine being one. I don't see any legitimate reason to go backwards- in fact, I'm in hopes that I'll be able to use my .308 in the future on public, as well as private, land. Ditto.
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Post by esshup on Jan 5, 2020 17:35:44 GMT -5
It seems that when these trials are put into place, that the intent appears to be to permanently implement them, unless problems are discovered during the trial period. It wouldn`t make sense to even initiate them in the first place otherwise. Since there aren`t any known detrimental effects to the herd, and no safety issues showed up during the trial period, it would only stand to reason that the use of the centerfire rifles specifically mentioned during this trial period will be made permanent. With the Buck harvest at a all time high I am sure some will see that as a detrimental effect.... we shall see! Has the buck harvest been at an all time high for the past 5 years or is this year an abnormality? I'd say take all 5 of the past years, average ALL the deer harvested and see how that compares to the norm previously.
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Post by mgderf on Jan 5, 2020 17:55:00 GMT -5
With the Buck harvest at a all time high I am sure some will see that as a detrimental effect.... we shall see! Has the buck harvest been at an all time high for the past 5 years or is this year an abnormality? I'd say take all 5 of the past years, average ALL the deer harvested and see how that compares to the norm previously. Since all deer (legally) harvested in Indiana are checked in through the system, they have the information already at hand. They know the number of doe killed with a rifle, the number of bucks taken with a crossbow... They now even have it broken down to antlerless (doe or button buck) taken in any given season. Correlating the information is now done by computer... This should be easy to determine the overall effect on the herd, if any.
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Post by medic22 on Jan 5, 2020 18:15:33 GMT -5
I'll actively fight against HPR's unless public land is included this go around.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 5, 2020 18:43:47 GMT -5
Has the buck harvest been at an all time high for the past 5 years or is this year an abnormality? I'd say take all 5 of the past years, average ALL the deer harvested and see how that compares to the norm previously. Since all deer (legally) harvested in Indiana are checked in through the system, they have the information already at hand. They know the number of doe killed with a rifle, the number of bucks taken with a crossbow... They now even have it broken down to antlerless (doe or button buck) taken in any given season. Correlating the information is now done by computer... This should be easy to determine the overall effect on the herd, if any. The last three year’s total takes have pretty well flattened out like the DNR wanted it to be. I think it would be difficult for anyone to say that the herd has been hurt. It may have moved some kills from one method to another, but that doesn’t mean a thing to the total. IMO..
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Post by jjas on Jan 5, 2020 18:43:51 GMT -5
I have no idea what will happen with this, but I'm of the opinion that what is likely to happen is that the hpr rule will stay "as is" for private ground. Will the powers that be include hprs on public ground? I don't know, but I won't be surprised if it stays "as is" too...
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 5, 2020 18:46:38 GMT -5
I have no idea what will happen with this, but I'm of the opinion that what is likely to happen is that the hpr rule will stay "as is" for private ground. Will the powers that be include hprs on public ground? I don't know, but I won't be surprised if it stays "as is" too... Or they could do like they have done with other so called “trials” andextend it another 5 years.
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