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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 9, 2019 16:07:35 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Dec 9, 2019 16:34:00 GMT -5
Welcome to the short gun season hunting tactics...SMH
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 9, 2019 17:38:02 GMT -5
Welcome to the short gun season hunting tactics...SMH LOL....folks do drives in Indiana and other states with long seasons...it is the only style I know some do. They cannot stand waiting around for a deer.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 9, 2019 17:45:54 GMT -5
Welcome to the short gun season hunting tactics...SMH LOL....folks do drives in Indiana and other states with long seasons...it is the only style I know some do. They cannot stand waiting around for a deer. If you do some research your see deer drives and party hunting happens most often in short Gun season states the most!
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 9, 2019 17:55:37 GMT -5
LOL....folks do drives in Indiana and other states with long seasons...it is the only style I know some do. They cannot stand waiting around for a deer. If you do some research your see deer drives and party hunting happens most often in short Gun season states the most! Sorry but not buying that is a statistic which can accurately be tracked to substantiate a claim either direction. No one reports their hunting style choice every time hitting the woods. I think it is a reach to blame this on short seasons.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 9, 2019 18:00:04 GMT -5
Just stating what is commonly known.... believe what you want!
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Post by treetop on Dec 9, 2019 18:07:07 GMT -5
They do that a lot by me in Ohio I hunt less than a mile from OH on one farm. They run from woods to woods in trucks they have guys pushing one woods walking and other guys watching from the truck were the deer run out then they drive like h after them to the side they came out and wait on deer to run by or they try and push them back. Trespassing is so common it’s not even funny. The nice thing is a lot of them get pushed right back to IN The bad thing is they just throw lead who knows how many deer they kill or wounded unless they drop they don’t even go look
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Post by genesis273 on Dec 9, 2019 19:23:58 GMT -5
If you do some research your see deer drives and party hunting happens most often in short Gun season states the most! Sorry but not buying that is a statistic which can accurately be tracked to substantiate a claim either direction. No one reports their hunting style choice every time hitting the woods. I think it is a reach to blame this on short seasons.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 9, 2019 19:32:21 GMT -5
They do that a lot by me in Ohio I hunt less than a mile from OH on one farm. They run from woods to woods in trucks they have guys pushing one woods walking and other guys watching from the truck were the deer run out then they drive like h after them to the side they came out and wait on deer to run by or they try and push them back. Trespassing is so common it’s not even funny. The nice thing is a lot of them get pushed right back to IN The bad thing is they just throw lead who knows how many deer they kill or wounded unless they drop they don’t even go look Typical short season state....some think trespassing is bad now here!
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Post by harmonist34 on Dec 9, 2019 20:56:15 GMT -5
Deer drives are fundamentally an impatient tactic. Hard to understand how having a longer season would encourage people not inclined to “sit and wait” tactics to hunt that way over more days/weeks than they already do.
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Post by welder on Dec 9, 2019 21:17:48 GMT -5
Gotta admit: Some of my most fond memories of days gone by are the "Black Friday" deer drives. Anywhere from 4-8 of us would get together and push some weed patches and thick cutover creek bottoms. Killed a few deer, never had a close call and created memories I will carry the rest of my life.
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Post by esshup on Dec 10, 2019 0:53:58 GMT -5
Deer drives is very common in our family up in Wi. There is a LOT more knowledge that goes into a successful drive than what people think. The guy organizing the drive has to know where the deer will move and has to post standers accordingly. What we did wasn't what some people think of a deer drive, it was more of a sneak thru the woods, each guy following a compass setting, and the deer would be pushed in front of the drivers. The drivers wouldn't be making noise, nor moving fast thru the woods, so the posters could get shots at deer that were slowly walking.
Some deer would circle around the drivers, my biggest Wi. buck did just that and when the drivers came out they motioned to me if I saw a buck. I nodded no, they motioned that they were going back in and doing another push. The buck came out right where they thought it would and I dropped it. They said they could see where the buck slipped on the frozen creek and lost some hair from it's brisket on the ice. Yep, that was the deer that I killed.
Big woods, not enough guys to go from road to road, so that's the reason for the compass heading. We had anywhere from 5/6 to a dozen hunters per year. 95% of the ground we hunted was public ground. Rarely did we see another hunter that wasn't with the group.
Oh, 9 day season, no agriculture in the area, so there was no real waiting for the deer to come to you, you had to push them to get them to move.
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Post by beermaker on Dec 10, 2019 5:47:00 GMT -5
I've participated in more drives than can be remembered, but not in the last 15+ years. However, I don't think I would do it again. Just too damn dangerous in my opinion. It was ALWAYS on the last day of gun season. I was never successful myself, but several deer were harvested.
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Post by treetop on Dec 10, 2019 7:04:36 GMT -5
I’ve done them myself in my younger years The big difference I see is the size of the woods were i hunt and live it’s wood lots most woods around here are 5 to 20 acres at best I’m sure lots of people use it just like dogs baiting and it works for them I’m ok with it just hate to see what I see around me going on makes us look bad and makes it harder to find ground to hunt on
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Post by greghopper on Dec 10, 2019 7:21:02 GMT -5
Deer drives is very common in our family up in Wi. There is a LOT more knowledge that goes into a successful drive than what people think. The guy organizing the drive has to know where the deer will move and has to post standers accordingly. What we did wasn't what some people think of a deer drive, it was more of a sneak thru the woods, each guy following a compass setting, and the deer would be pushed in front of the drivers. The drivers wouldn't be making noise, nor moving fast thru the woods, so the posters could get shots at deer that were slowly walking. Some deer would circle around the drivers, my biggest Wi. buck did just that and when the drivers came out they motioned to me if I saw a buck. I nodded no, they motioned that they were going back in and doing another push. The buck came out right where they thought it would and I dropped it. They said they could see where the buck slipped on the frozen creek and lost some hair from it's brisket on the ice. Yep, that was the deer that I killed. Big woods, not enough guys to go from road to road, so that's the reason for the compass heading. We had anywhere from 5/6 to a dozen hunters per year. 95% of the ground we hunted was public ground. Rarely did we see another hunter that wasn't with the group. Oh, 9 day season, no agriculture in the area, so there was no real waiting for the deer to come to you, you had to push them to get them to move.Yep.....another short season state...folks rushing to make things happen.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 10, 2019 9:23:04 GMT -5
I agree with Greg.
Although I do not have any hard fast data I do believe that in the shorter season, and mostly out of the rut, states there is a lot of deer drives going on. If the bucks aren't moving folks will grow tired of sitting watching nothing and will do drives to get them up and moving..
The only time I have ever seen a deer drive in Indiana was when some poaching trespassers did a drive on the property a group of us was hunting. About six vehicles loaded with poachers stopped at one end of one of our woodlots, some got out and took places on the road . The vehicles went to the other end and the drivers got out and pushed the wood lot. Several deer busted out and the poachers took running pot shots at them. As far as we know none were hit. Before the CO could get there they drove off and most likely went to another spot they did not have permission to hunt and did it again. That was 40 years ago..
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Post by boman on Dec 10, 2019 12:59:58 GMT -5
Deer drives and short seasons are more of a coincidence than anything else. Does anyone think the people who Traditionally hunt deer with this method would change if the seasons were longer or during the rut. ---NOT---
Steve
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Post by jman46151 on Dec 10, 2019 13:07:31 GMT -5
I've been involved with a few drives in Indiana and they all took place the last weekend of regular gun season as a last ditch effort to get someone a deer. It wasn't based solely on length of season, but based on whether or not everybody had gotten a deer. I was normally a driver since I typically filled a tag during archery so i never killed anything on any of them. Just like esshup, I had a doe circle back around us on one of them, she popped back out behind us just a little too far take a shot at.
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Post by treetop on Dec 10, 2019 13:43:10 GMT -5
I agree with Greg. Although I do not have any hard fast data I do believe that in the shorter season, and mostly out of the rut, states there is a lot of deer drives going on. If the bucks aren't moving folks will grow tired of sitting watching nothing and will do drives to get them up and moving.. The only time I have ever seen a deer drive in Indiana was when some poaching trespassers did a drive on the property a group of us was hunting. About six vehicles loaded with poachers stopped at one end of one of our woodlots, some got out and took places on the road . The vehicles went to the other end and the drivers got out and pushed the wood lot. Several deer busted out and the poachers took running pot shots at them. As far as we know none were hit. Before the CO could get there they drove off and most likely went to another spot they did not have permission to hunt and did it again. That was 40 years ago.. Exactly what goes on by me in OH I’ve got a few friends that live and hunt OH they’ve had people stop and do deer drives on the woods they were in from what I’ve been told they drive around looking for woods with no trucks parked by and figure no one is hunting, but theses guys hunt the ground they own so they walked from home to the woods. I know this is more of a local problem but I do believe a short gun season adds to the problem
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Post by 10point on Dec 10, 2019 14:17:35 GMT -5
My dad and I did a successful two man deer drive one day during Muzzleloader season years ago. He was hunting close by and when he was done he walked through a brush field. A buck jumped and came my way and it was a buck that I had shot and wounded with my bow a few weeks earlier. It came right to me and I got it. Great memory!
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