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Post by treetop on Aug 24, 2019 20:55:51 GMT -5
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Aug 24, 2019 20:58:52 GMT -5
I knew he was more hurt than they were telling, but doesn’t bother me any. Haven’t watched a NFL game in a few years now. A player can throw, shoot, catch a ball and be paid millions, yet our first responders, teachers, and military struggle to make it through life.
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Post by scrub-buster on Aug 24, 2019 21:01:58 GMT -5
Well great. I drafted him in a fantasy league today.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 24, 2019 22:39:30 GMT -5
I knew he was more hurt than they were telling, but doesn’t bother me any. Haven’t watched a NFL game in a few years now. A player can throw, shoot, catch a ball and be paid millions, yet our first responders, teachers, and military struggle to make it through life. It's called free enterprize.... your only worth what someone willing to pay you. Don't hate the player hate the game!
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Post by Russ Koon on Aug 24, 2019 23:03:49 GMT -5
I don't blame him a bit. He could have toughed it out and possibly had some good years with fewer injuries, but that becomes less likely with each season. The guys we've seen through the years toughing it out and playing into their late thirties and beyond have often regretted not bailing out sooner.
I think it was John Elway I saw quoted about his retirement and he said that in the early years, you suffer injuries and you rehab from them over the off-season and that's just part of the job. But every year the rehab takes longer, and one day you find yourself starting the new season still suffering with the injuries from the previous one, and you start to think about retirement.
Bart Starr played through so many concussions that his brain was so damaged that during those last years on the field, it was common knowledge that he had a "glass head" like some boxers get a "glass jaw", and any decent thump to his helmet would put him on the deck. I remember seeing Carl Eller, the great Viking DE, coming around into the Packer backfield and scooping Starr up in his arms the way you'd scoop up your eight-year-old, and laying him gently on the field, rather than tackling him normally and possibly causing him further harm.
Bret Favre famously played through much pain and long and painful rehabs for years, and was admired for his toughness, but he says now he endured too much and should have got out sooner.
Payton was sacked so often during his early years as a pro, that he made some changes to the offensive schemes in self defense, like his frequent "hard count" to catch the defensive line in jumping the gun, to prevent them from having more advantage over the offensive line, and using the "no huddle" to wear the defenders down more quickly and sap some of their speed and strength. And he still ended up with a neck injury that nearly left him crippled.
Some QB's are able to avoid injury with their extreme mobility, and some have great offensive lines that allow them to stand in the backfield for several seconds without being touched, like Aaron Rodgers. But Luck isn't a scampering lightweight, and the Colts have long been a team with a suspect offensive line, and I think his decision was the right one.
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Post by mgderf on Aug 25, 2019 5:29:03 GMT -5
I haven't watched the NFL since the players decided to start disrespecting the flag. Couldn't care less, and don't miss the drama.
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Post by freedomhunter on Aug 25, 2019 7:41:50 GMT -5
Season ticker holders won't be happy. Play until you can't anymore, save your money, that is what he did. Same thing my cousin did as a back up tight end for a couple teams, he knew physically every play could be his last. Just a brutal game at that level.
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Post by jjas on Aug 25, 2019 8:39:14 GMT -5
If I watch football anymore, it's college football. Same thing with basketball.
As for Luck, I can't blame him for stepping down with the nagging injuries he's had and wish him the best in retirement @ the ripe old age of 29.
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Post by greyhair on Aug 25, 2019 10:11:19 GMT -5
On the bright side, Brissett has shown some promise, I hope he does well. Smart decision by Luck, he is financially set, and played like a champion, quit now before you endure a lifetime of pain.
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Post by greyhair on Aug 25, 2019 10:21:02 GMT -5
I don't like the kneeling, but watching football by the fireplace on a cold Sunday afternoon, while sharing popcorn or pizza with my doggie, and dozing off is a pleasure I won't be robbed of by a few disrespectful jerks.
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Post by treetop on Aug 25, 2019 11:45:59 GMT -5
I don't like the kneeling, but watching football by the fireplace on a cold Sunday afternoon, while sharing popcorn or pizza with my doggie, and dozing off is a pleasure I won't be robbed of by a few disrespectful jerks. I’m the same way I like the game I don’t put all the blame on the players about taking a knee no they should not have done it yes it me off but all it would of taken is the NFL and owners to say do it and your out of the game do it twice your out for the year with out your paycheck The marketplace sets the pay scale as long as they can sell seats teeshirts and the likes the pay will be there, and that’s for all sports not defending them but a lot of the guys only have a few years to make money sure it is a bunch but they need to make enough to last the rest of there life most of them can’t quit and go into a high paying job
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Post by greghopper on Aug 25, 2019 12:04:36 GMT -5
Capt. Andrew Luck @captandrewluck Dearest mother — The quill has never felt more heavy. I have made the decision to holster my sidearm permanently. I shall battle no more. The decision is difficult, but, as the hogs taught me, I must be true to myself. I am coming home to care for you and the farm. — Andrew
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Aug 25, 2019 19:05:57 GMT -5
I don't like the kneeling, but watching football by the fireplace on a cold Sunday afternoon, while sharing popcorn or pizza with my doggie, and dozing off is a pleasure I won't be robbed of by a few disrespectful jerks. I’m the same way I like the game I don’t put all the blame on the players about taking a knee no they should not have done it yes it me off but all it would of taken is the NFL and owners to say do it and your out of the game do it twice your out for the year with out your paycheck The marketplace sets the pay scale as long as they can sell seats teeshirts and the likes the pay will be there, and that’s for all sports not defending them but a lot of the guys only have a few years to make money sure it is a bunch but they need to make enough to last the rest of there life most of them can’t quit and go into a high paying job They can quit and just go get a job like the rest of us. Don’t have to be high paying just because they made millions before to showcase whatever sports talent they had. A lot of them are supposedly college educated, so welcome to the real life boys.
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Post by esshup on Aug 25, 2019 20:18:45 GMT -5
If the owners would get a backbone and do what Jerry Jones did there would be no more kneeling. The Cowboys don't have that problem, nobody kneels there.
Heck yes they are disrespecting the flag and the country and the people that made this country what it is. They could kneel at any other time, but no they have to do it during the anthem. I wouldn't whizz on them if they were on fire.
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Post by deadeer on Aug 25, 2019 20:53:37 GMT -5
If the owners would get a backbone and do what Jerry Jones did there would be no more kneeling. The Cowboys don't have that problem, nobody kneels there. Heck yes they are disrespecting the flag and the country and the people that made this country what it is. They could kneel at any other time, but no they have to do it during the anthem. I wouldn't whizz on them if they were on fire. Lol. Well said. That brought quite the chuckle.
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Post by jbird on Aug 26, 2019 12:21:08 GMT -5
is Kaeperneck still available? hahahahahaha!!!!!
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Post by esshup on Aug 26, 2019 13:48:51 GMT -5
If he was smart with his $$, he CAN retire. Face it, compare what he made over his "short" football career compared to a regular blue collar working stiff that has worked for 45-50 years before retiring. Who made more? While I don't fault him for retiring, he sure could have timed it differently.
And he's just retiring from football, maybe not retiring and not working at all. Heck how many people have switched jobs/careers in their lifetime?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 14:08:09 GMT -5
The colts until last two years had the worst offensive line in the league. He's lucky to still be able to walk. I would have to say the Bengals are now competing for the worst offensive line the last few years. Some of the comparison to other quarterbacks that played for dozen plus years had very good offensive lines. Not a good comparison.
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Post by beermaker on Aug 26, 2019 16:09:22 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if football is around 25-30 years from now. Players keep getting bigger, stronger, and faster & injuries keep getting worse. It's just an irrefutable fact that when two objects collide, something has to give. When those objects are 250lbs going at track sprinter speed, something bad is going to happen sooner rather than later.
I think parents are becoming more reluctant to encourage their kids to play. My life-long best friend was the biggest chest thumping football meathead I've ever met. He has three sons and will not let them play football, period.
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Post by jbird on Aug 26, 2019 16:48:37 GMT -5
Give me a few million in the bank and I'll retire tomorrow...you'll never see me again! And I got 15 years on the guy! I'm not saying I feel sorry for the man....but when you get the crap beat out of you for a living....well, you need to know when enough, is enough. He could still go into coaching, announcing and the like....he just quit going to a job where he can get his bell rung on a regular basis.
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