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Post by oldshotty on Aug 3, 2018 8:22:24 GMT -5
I was thinking about using my Mossberg 500 with a twenty inch smooth bore barrel and a red dot scope for deer since I already have them. I was wondering if anybody else has or was useing something similar and what were your experiences or opinions. I am hoping for since I have not patterned any foster slugs with this combination yet for better than pie plate accuracy at around 75 yards.
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Post by antiwheeze on Aug 3, 2018 8:37:15 GMT -5
I was thinking about using my Mossberg 500 with a twenty inch smooth bore barrel and a red dot scope for deer since I already have them. I was wondering if anybody else has or was useing something similar and what were your experiences or opinions. I am hoping for since I have not patterned any foster slugs with this combination yet for better than pie plate accuracy at around 75 yards. My experience with Winchester foster slugs and a smooth bore has been good groups at 60 yards. Much further began to open up. Groups were about 12" at 100yds. Nothing I've used has better terminal performance than a one ounce chunk a lead .63 in hole in the vitals. My taxidermist uses them in a rifled barrel. Says he doesn't plan on shooting it enough to damage it. My experience with a red dot is with an ar and crossbow. |
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Post by jjas on Aug 3, 2018 12:01:41 GMT -5
I think realistically you should be able to use that combination to 50 or so yards. You might have to experiment with a couple of different slugs and see if your gun shoots better clean or dirty, but 50+ shouldn't be too bad.
You may find that you can hold good groups farther than that. If so, it's a bonus.
Good luck to you and let us know how it works out.
One last suggestion...
If you sight that gun in now, I would definitely check zero on it once the weather cools, as you are likely to find that your zero is off a bit.
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Post by uncleharley on Aug 3, 2018 17:43:57 GMT -5
I use a Burris red dot on my 870. Took a nice fat doe at 25 yds last year & a 26 lb turkey at 45 yds this spring.
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Post by span870 on Aug 4, 2018 5:49:35 GMT -5
I've used one on several slug guns and dad used one exclusively on his slug guns. Very quick target acquisition, dot is where you want it pull the trigger. Long eye relief. Distance isn't an issue with majority of deer kills in woods setting because you're not getting 100+ yard shots. When I took my kids deer hunting I always set the gun up with a red dot. No worries about proper hold on gun or scope. No worries about positioning the scope for eye relief. No worries about where the red dot is in the scope or if it's centered. Dot could be at top, bottom, left or right in the tube. That bullet goes where the dot is no matter where the dot is. Simple and easy to use for less experienced hunters. Use one exclusively on my turkey gun but use the circle with dot in center reticle. Will caution. If you get one with several reticle options, the point of impact changes with each reticle. Not supposed to but it does.
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Post by steiny on Aug 4, 2018 9:55:51 GMT -5
My advice to you would be to never put optics that require a battery and electricity on a hunting firearm. Can't tell you how many times I've heard about people leaving the scope on, then going out in the morning being surprised with a dead battery and scope that doesn't work. Good old fashioned crosshairs always work.
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Post by medic22 on Aug 4, 2018 13:35:19 GMT -5
I tried it once. Couldnt tell which end I was aiming at due to the small sight picture.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 4, 2018 14:44:31 GMT -5
First crossbow I owned and hunted with had a Red Dot type sight on it. Three points of aim sorta calibrated for 20, 30, and 40.
I did kill a couple deer with it and it worked fine once in low light. I never left it on but I have heard of folks that did and were dead in the water their next hunt.
I’ve since changed over to a TenPoint Rangemaster that has 5 stage illuminated dots/crosshairs that even if I did leave it turned on I can still use the crosshairs. All electronic devices taken afield should have extra batteries in the backpack..
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Post by wesb81219 on Aug 5, 2018 0:17:09 GMT -5
Try lightfield or brenneke ko slugs out of that smooth bore
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Post by oldshotty on Aug 5, 2018 3:28:25 GMT -5
Try lightfield or brenneke ko slugs out of that smooth bore Thanks for all the replies folks, do the Lightfield/Brenneke's tend to be more accurate. |
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Post by esshup on Aug 5, 2018 7:02:30 GMT -5
I tried it once. Couldnt tell which end I was aiming at due to the small sight picture. I thought you were supposed to shoot with both eyes open? I've got a red dot type (Holo Sight) on one of my shotguns for shooting clay birds and it works really, really well. |
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Post by 36fan on Aug 5, 2018 21:52:43 GMT -5
I put a millet red dot on my .357 Marlin. I've taken several deer with it,out to about 100 yds. I'm always weary of the batteries and check to make sure it's off often, and keep spares with me. I want to put high rise, see through rings on it, but I never got around to it.
I originally put it on because it added probably 20 extra minutes to my evening hunting when hunting inside the woods compared to the iron sights (especially on cloudy evenings).
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Post by wesb81219 on Aug 5, 2018 21:58:52 GMT -5
Try lightfield or brenneke ko slugs out of that smooth bore Thanks for all the replies folks, do the Lightfield/Brenneke's tend to be more accurate. They are decent out of my smooth bore slug barrel. Good enough to hit the kill zone @ 50 yds. |
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Post by medic22 on Aug 5, 2018 23:01:05 GMT -5
I tried it once. Couldnt tell which end I was aiming at due to the small sight picture. I thought you were supposed to shoot with both eyes open? I've got a red dot type (Holo Sight) on one of my shotguns for shooting clay birds and it works really, really well. I cant shoot with both eyes open. |
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Post by duff on Aug 6, 2018 4:54:16 GMT -5
I never used one for deer hunting. I have one on my chipmunk killing 10/22 and is very accurate out to about 100 yards on targets. On the chips I have hard time after 50 yrds.
I would think deer sized it would be as good as you or your gun can be.
The battery issue is a pain. plan on having extra
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Aug 6, 2018 6:40:31 GMT -5
I have one on a home defense shotgun. I'm thinking about putting the ghost ring back on the shotgun, and moving the red dot over to my .357 Mag Hand-Rifle for the kids to use when they're ready. They have a lot of trouble looking through a rifle-scope, and are still pretty awkward with the iron sights also.
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Post by throbak on Aug 6, 2018 7:08:18 GMT -5
Your only the second person I’ve head of using the ghost ring , a really old time sight , he uses his on a old glinted
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Aug 6, 2018 7:13:55 GMT -5
Your only the second person I’ve head of using the ghost ring , a really old time sight , he uses his on a old glinted This is on a Stevens 12 gauge, 18" barrel. It's kind of a neat sight. |
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Post by esshup on Aug 6, 2018 9:24:01 GMT -5
I thought you were supposed to shoot with both eyes open? I've got a red dot type (Holo Sight) on one of my shotguns for shooting clay birds and it works really, really well. I cant shoot with both eyes open. Coming from shooting rifles all my life, I thought so too. But, when I started shooting clay birds you have to for proper depth perception. Try driving a car with one eye closed and you will see what I mean. I learned how to shoot a shotgun with both eyes open and the first time I broke a clay bird that way I was amazed. If you can't shoot a shotgun and kill a bird, or break a clay bird, then the shotgun isn't pointing where you are looking and you need to get it fitted to you. If you use your finger to point at something, I'll bet you don't close one eye to do that, and if you did, you'd find that your finger was pointed exactly at what you were pointing at. Same goes for a shotgun, (well, really any gun you shoot really) it is supposed to point where you are looking. In rifle shooting it's called natural point of aim and when a rifle is pointing where you are looking, you shoot better groups because you aren't muscling the rifle to point in a certain direction. Red Dot sights are designed to be used as a "heads up" display, meaning looking with both eyes open and the red dot is projected out at the target. That's why they are 0 power. |
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Post by jimstc on Aug 6, 2018 14:34:56 GMT -5
I have one on a home defense shotgun. I'm thinking about putting the ghost ring back on the shotgun, and moving the red dot over to my .357 Mag Hand-Rifle for the kids to use when they're ready. They have a lot of trouble looking through a rifle-scope, and are still pretty awkward with the iron sights also. My first deer was taken with a ghost ring sight on a Win Super X. I also used that sight exclusively when I was competing in Three Gun. Reliable, simple and accurate with some distance limitations. I use a red dot on my turkey gun. I have never shot a deer in Indiana at a distance over 45 yards. A red dot will work fine at that distance. Brenneke slugs are the most lethal and accurate slugs I have ever used. The deer referenced above was taken with a Brenneke. He went down like a truck hit him. It was a 2.75" shell. They are the only slugs I use and I zero my shotgun at 100 yards |
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