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Post by 76chevy on May 1, 2017 10:50:52 GMT -5
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Post by boonechaser on May 1, 2017 12:12:49 GMT -5
I have shot Rages for several years and love them. Not taking any chances. Only takes one malfunction and a trophy could be lost. (Something to date I have not experienced) I'm sticking with the Rage brand and no knockoffs for me. JMO
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 1, 2017 12:29:28 GMT -5
There are some things I will just not go cheap on. Things do happen, but I don't want it to be from me being cheap.
However, we did notice a difference in shooting the Rage practice tip and in shooting the actual broadhead. Personally, I would use a real broadhead to sight in the bow. Yes, it can be expensive, but I NEED that comfort feeling. I imagine using the cheap ones to sight in would be fine, but I wouldn't until I saw the flight path difference between the cheap and expensive ones.
Trophy or NOT, we need to do the best we can to get a clean kill. I still will lose sleep from causing a wide rack buck a slow death, because I didn't sight in with my broadhead.
This is just me and my experience. It's great if one can shoot in the same hole with field tips or broadheads, or from their stand or flat land. For some reason, I have a difference and I need to understand the difference.
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Post by 76chevy on May 1, 2017 13:27:08 GMT -5
good points made. I saw some flight of both and they both fly the same at 30 yards. Nothing longer was tested. I will of course test them before hunting with them as the animals deserve the best effort from us.
Many of you familiar with manufacturing may know many chinese factories will run extras or have extra stock they don't sell to the US distributor and sell "off label" at lower costs
These very likely were made in the same factory as the labeled rages, without the added in high cost of advertising, glossy package, and blonde advertising for them on TV and magazines.
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Post by 76chevy on May 1, 2017 13:28:26 GMT -5
which is the brand name one?
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Post by boonechaser on May 1, 2017 14:03:37 GMT -5
Bottom
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Post by 76chevy on May 1, 2017 14:18:04 GMT -5
rage is on the left here. It cost $13. The one on the right cost $1.45
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 1, 2017 14:31:14 GMT -5
I say buy some, look at the construction and give them a try. Well placed, they'll kill even if they don't open.
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Post by throbak on May 1, 2017 14:59:45 GMT -5
I shoot the Chinese Bloodrunner Haven't noticed the deer being any less dead but have noticed easier on the pocket book
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Post by boonechaser on May 1, 2017 16:14:54 GMT -5
They have a plant in Georgia , they merged with Muzzy I believe. Have a friend that lived close to factory in Georgia and has friends that work there. Orginly they were made in Wisconsin.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 1, 2017 22:12:50 GMT -5
I shoot the Chinese Bloodrunner Haven't noticed the deer being any less dead but have noticed easier on the pocket book Now it's all clear. I thought I heard a squeaking noise, but I thought, "How can a man squeak in his bear feet? Yep, you are so tight that you squeak. This has to be it.
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Post by onebentarrow on May 2, 2017 1:12:52 GMT -5
rage is on the left here. It cost $13. The one on the right cost $1.45 I will stick to my muzzys,thankyou
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Post by duff on May 2, 2017 4:04:37 GMT -5
Ask span870 about how good the rage did on the deer he shot last year. I will stick with fixed blades too.
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Post by span870 on May 2, 2017 5:31:08 GMT -5
I WAS a mechanical shooter. Never had one fail on me. Matter of fact, biggest buck I've ever shot in Indiana I center punched in the shoulder not once but twice with mechanicals. Sheared both the blades off but did punch a hole in the lung. I used the T5 broadhead by Tekkan. Never had an issue with them. I know I won't change anyone else's mind with this story but...
Gun season last year, opening day. I deer hunt anymore just for tradition. Don't care to shoot a deer and frankly, don't want to. Just like being out there. By the last 30 minutes of opening day I had already had maybe 7-8 deer well within shooting range but let em walk. Seen several decent bucks and a couple of doe. Sitting on the ground I hear a god awful racket coming down a small ridge behind me and see a decent 10 pointer coming towards me. No size for me to even contemplate shooting. What I noticed was every step his front end almost collapses under him. This wasn't a limp but full out stumbling. He got to bottom of the ridge and I peaked around the tree and he was staring right at me. He stood no less than 15 feet from me, not yards, feet. No way this deer didn't see me. Matter of fact you could tell he knew I was there and knew exactly what I was. Absolutely no way he could run the pain he was in. He just kinda looked at me and tried to walk. Anyway no way I could let him suffer no matter the reason so put the cross hairs high on shoulder and instantly put him out of his misery.
So long story, long. 😀 On field dressing him he had a hole the size of a softball right behind the shoulder, perfect shot location. The broadhead blades didn't deploy and he had about 4 inches of shaft sticking in him. Broke two ribs but the head didn't deploy the blades for some reason. Every time the deer took a step the blades were cutting him but not enough to puncture the lung. Won't get into a, he would've lived argument because no way he would have with that damage. It was going to be a slow and painful death. Again, not going to change anyone's views. I would have continued using mechanicals if I hadn't seen this. If the would fail on a perfect shot by just hitting a rib and only get that little penetration, just don't think I could ever trust one again. I do now believe it's not if, but when one will fail. Just something to think about.
If, and huge if, someone would try to get me to convince them that they wanted to use one I sure as heck wouldn't recommend an off brand no name head that is 10% the cost of another brand and a copyright infringement of said brand. I understand you are paying for a name when you buy certain things but when x cost a certain amount and y is an exact replica there is a reason y is cheaper. Sub par materials and sub par construction. Convince one's self all you want that x and y are the same thing, they ain't. I switched to mechanicals to hunt out west, needing to increase distance. Since then I've learned that a mechanical gives no advantage with distance of a fixed blade with a perfectly set up bow. All it does is cut down on the time needed to perfect your setup. Allows corner cutting and hides flaws. The distance that most will shoot in Indiana, even a so so set up bow will shoot fixed blades well enough to get the job done.
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Post by span870 on May 2, 2017 5:41:39 GMT -5
I say buy some, look at the construction and give them a try. Well placed, they'll kill even if they don't open. No, no they won't. Well maybe at a later time but after a pretty painful death.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on May 2, 2017 6:09:31 GMT -5
I say buy some, look at the construction and give them a try. Well placed, they'll kill even if they don't open. No, no they won't. Well maybe at a later time but after a pretty painful death. Processor said he "finds so many of these damn things" in deer now he uses heavier gloves when removing the hides and processing. Said the are not deployed either.
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Post by throbak on May 2, 2017 6:45:09 GMT -5
That's why I like the Bloodrunner open or not your good to go!! Just not as wide but still plenty wide cut
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 6:56:43 GMT -5
I bought some Chinese rage last year and twice had opening issues. I shot very light arrows. I don't think it was the Chinese rage issue, would have happened to Rage mechanical. Does ribs are close together and the rage cut is to wide. It went in about 3-4 inches and got stuck between the ribs. I was able to get a 2nd arrow to do the job and checked it out during inspection. On the buck I hit the shoulder and did not penetrate much. Switch back to fixed and it worked like a charm.
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Post by swilk on May 2, 2017 6:59:28 GMT -5
Reading the last page of a book is not enough to draw a conclusion as to what the book was about ....
Ive cut deer open and found bullets in them....
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Post by Woody Williams on May 2, 2017 7:16:08 GMT -5
I don't like to buy anything Chinese, especially knock offs..
I hunt with 100 grain NAP Spitfires and have never had any problems whatsoever.
Short and wide blood trails....
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