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Post by boonechaser on Feb 9, 2017 19:10:58 GMT -5
I put ZERO faith in article. Guess makes for good reading?? End day means absolutely nothing to me.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 10, 2017 9:04:07 GMT -5
Egh, flawed study IMO but won't affect or change me and my hunting.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 10, 2017 9:16:54 GMT -5
Egh, flawed study IMO but won't affect or change me and my hunting. Where is the "Flaw"....please explain! And what did they have to gain by writing a 60 page "flawed" report? BTW...They been writing this report for many years..."flawed" all these years or just some years?
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Post by swilk on Feb 10, 2017 9:21:36 GMT -5
Really? You dont see any flaws? Not in 46% reporting but making an assumption as a whole? Nothing?
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Post by greghopper on Feb 10, 2017 9:28:00 GMT -5
Really? You dont see any flaws? Not in 46% reporting but making an assumption as a whole? Nothing? So what percent is needed to not make it not flawed for you??
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Post by swilk on Feb 10, 2017 9:33:56 GMT -5
I asked first ....
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 10, 2017 9:34:46 GMT -5
Egh, flawed study IMO but won't affect or change me and my hunting. Where is the "Flaw"....please explain! And what did they have to gain by writing a 60 page "flawed" report? BTW...They been writing this report for many years..."flawed" all these years or just some years? Statistically speaking sure I guess enough sample sizes were garnered to make a statistical assumption, so flawed was probably not the most appropriate word. Do I think more mature bucks are harvested now than before? Absolutely. However, I personally don't like going off such incredibly small sample sizes compared to the area they are claiming to assume something for is all. QDMA member up until this past year so I in more ways than not support what they are about overall and have read pretty much everything they put out...so not just a hater here.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 10, 2017 9:44:05 GMT -5
No... there reporting is not flawed. There're not hiding anything on how they collected there info clearly explained. The link in the OP is miss-leading for sure! www.qdma.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/WR-2017.pdfAge Structure of the Buck Harvest page 6-7
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Post by swilk on Feb 10, 2017 9:52:52 GMT -5
Well then, there is no reason for me to try and explain.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 10, 2017 9:56:53 GMT -5
Well then, there is no reason for me to try and explain. You can explain your opinion if you wish to....
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Post by swilk on Feb 10, 2017 9:58:18 GMT -5
I know. I am just choosing not to.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 10, 2017 11:24:57 GMT -5
Ok.... I thought you wanted a answer so you could reply!! Guess not...
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 10, 2017 12:41:16 GMT -5
Sampling may be sufficient to make a determination, but only in states that submitted data. You cannot include states that did not report, or it flaws the overall results.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 10, 2017 13:08:19 GMT -5
So a state wide survey of any type is not valid and is flawed unless every county has input?
Don't think so.....
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Post by swilk on Feb 10, 2017 13:20:58 GMT -5
Sampling may be sufficient to make a determination, but only in states that submitted data. You cannot include states that did not report, or it flaws the overall results. A person can even look at the data that is included in the report and see why that is so. Also, the report does not go into detail as to how the data that was included was sampled.
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 10, 2017 14:18:10 GMT -5
So a state wide survey of any type is not valid and is flawed unless every county has input? Don't think so..... What if the survey was only conducted in the Top 10 record book buck counties? Would the data be legit and not skew the results? The same could be said for turkeys. Some Indiana counties don't even have enough birds for a fall season.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 10, 2017 15:05:41 GMT -5
I think you already know the answer..... but it also not a legit comparison! Contact the folks below maybe they will validate the report for you.
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 10, 2017 17:02:58 GMT -5
To be quite honest, Greg, I didn't even read the report. I just know that some states have pretty high 1 1/2 year old (yearling) buck harvests. Heck, in some states, if it has antlers, it's going down. Lol!
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Post by freedomhunter on Feb 10, 2017 17:03:58 GMT -5
I put ZERO faith in article. Guess makes for good reading?? End day means absolutely nothing to me. I have to agree with this. At least around here, I mainly see a bigger amount of two and three year old bucks being in the harvest. Hunters are passing the young 1.5 year old bucks more, but not holding out for mature bucks 4.5 years old and older. Still a rarity in most of Indiana imo. Most hunters either can't or won't take on that challenge with our regs
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 13, 2017 9:02:23 GMT -5
I put ZERO faith in article. Guess makes for good reading?? End day means absolutely nothing to me. I have to agree with this. At least around here, I mainly see a bigger amount of two and three year old bucks being in the harvest. Hunters are passing the young 1.5 year old bucks more, but not holding out for mature bucks 4.5 years old and older. Still a rarity in most of Indiana imo. Most hunters either can't or won't take on that challenge with our regsCan you explain this last part freedomhunter, I may have missed something but also don't want to assume. I just don't see how our regs dictate someone willing to or not willing to wait and hunt maturer deer?
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