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Post by parson on Jan 20, 2017 15:34:53 GMT -5
Our recent move has positioned me about 8 miles from Summit Lake. Thinking about a small 2 man boat. Any suggestions?
Some of the small pontoon types look interesting. In fact, I almost bought one a while back, but I understand that Summit can be quite windy, which could be problematic with one of these.
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Post by ukwil on Jan 20, 2017 15:55:07 GMT -5
If you can find one get an older Coleman crawdad.
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Post by esshup on Jan 20, 2017 16:23:30 GMT -5
It depends on your budget and how much weight you are planning on putting in the boat. Wide flat bottomed "jon" boats are stable and don't tip easily, but in waves you will get the crap beat out of you because they don't cut thru the waves. 2 people, motor, gas, battery/trolling motor, cooler, fishing gear, anchor(s), etc., you are looking at 750 pounds to 1,000 pounds carrying capacity.
Semi-V boats are almost as stable when at rest, and cut thru the waves better.
As for the getting back to shore if the storm blows, it's all about horsepower, and I like to max out the rating on the boat motor wise. I figure that I don't have to use it if I don't need to, but if I need to, I want it there and available to use.
I use a water tender plastic boat to spray weeds in farm ponds, and it will take a 7.4 hp motor (I think). It is rated at 500 pounds and I know I've had more than that in it, but I wouldn't trust it in big waves, or little waves with that much weight in it. I've had 800 pounds in it, but calm water only with no other boats to make waves.........
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Post by stevein on Jan 20, 2017 16:30:18 GMT -5
Look around you should be able to pick up a 12 foot boat motor and trailer for around $1000. If it has title it makes it easy but you can get titles without too much problem. Like this one fortwayne.craigslist.org/boa/5965037255.html
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Post by stevein on Jan 20, 2017 16:41:41 GMT -5
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 20, 2017 18:17:17 GMT -5
Our recent move has positioned me about 8 miles from Summit Lake. Thinking about a small 2 man boat. Any suggestions? Some of the small pontoon types look interesting. In fact, I almost bought one a while back, but I understand that Summit can be quite windy, which could be problematic with one of these. I have one question and one suggestion: 1, Do you have a second man for the boat? 1, I might be available.
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Post by esshup on Jan 20, 2017 22:38:49 GMT -5
stevein:
The frameless pontoon will only handle 1 person. I would look carefully at the tag that is on all boats to see what they can handle HP wise and weight wise.
If you are looking at a boat that is of riveted construction, pay attention to the rivets. If on the inside or outside, there is silicone seal/epoxy or some other sealant, pass on the boat unless you know how to drill out and replace those buck rivets. They loosen up over time and it's due to the flexing of the aluminum.
If they aren't too leaky, they can be drilled out and new ones bucked in, but it will take 2 people and someone that is experienced bucking rivets. The rivets need no sealer to be water tight, and they also hold the two pieces of material together. So, if they are leaking, they are not doing their job and need to be tightened up, or replaced. As a kid, I fought 2 leaky aluminum riveted boats. Now I know the secret to repairing them, and it doesn't involve any glue, epoxy, welding or sealer.
Aluminum will crack once it flexes enough, so an older aluminum boat that has seen a lot of use won't last long before you start having problems.
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Post by brokenarrow on Jan 20, 2017 22:51:39 GMT -5
Get a semi-v Lund so the only worries you have is why the fish aren't biting...
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 20, 2017 23:51:10 GMT -5
It depends on your budget and how much weight you are planning on putting in the boat. Wide flat bottomed "jon" boats are stable and don't tip easily, but in waves you will get the crap beat out of you because they don't cut thru the waves. 2 people, motor, gas, battery/trolling motor, cooler, fishing gear, anchor(s), etc., you are looking at 750 pounds to 1,000 pounds carrying capacity. Semi-V boats are almost as stable when at rest, and cut thru the waves better. As for the getting back to shore if the storm blows, it's all about horsepower, and I like to max out the rating on the boat motor wise. I figure that I don't have to use it if I don't need to, but if I need to, I want it there and available to use. I use a water tender plastic boat to spray weeds in farm ponds, and it will take a 7.4 hp motor (I think). It is rated at 500 pounds and I know I've had more than that in it, but I wouldn't trust it in big waves, or little waves with that much weight in it. I've had 800 pounds in it, but calm water only with no other boats to make waves......... Summit lake is idle speed only
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Post by stevein on Jan 21, 2017 1:11:31 GMT -5
stevein: The frameless pontoon will only handle 1 person. I would look carefully at the tag that is on all boats to see what they can handle HP wise and weight wise. If you are looking at a boat that is of riveted construction, pay attention to the rivets. If on the inside or outside, there is silicone seal/epoxy or some other sealant, pass on the boat unless you know how to drill out and replace those buck rivets. They loosen up over time and it's due to the flexing of the aluminum. If they aren't too leaky, they can be drilled out and new ones bucked in, but it will take 2 people and someone that is experienced bucking rivets. The rivets need no sealer to be water tight, and they also hold the two pieces of material together. So, if they are leaking, they are not doing their job and need to be tightened up, or replaced. As a kid, I fought 2 leaky aluminum riveted boats. Now I know the secret to repairing them, and it doesn't involve any glue, epoxy, welding or sealer. Aluminum will crack once it flexes enough, so an older aluminum boat that has seen a lot of use won't last long before you start having problems. My Lone Star boat, Johnson 5.5 and owner are all early 50's vintage. You are right about rivets the oakum in the seams on my boat was dried out and even bucking the rivets did not help. Got some 2 part epoxy called STEELFLEX that is used to coat the bottoms of air boats and painted everything. No more leaks. fascoepoxies.com/Just giving Parson an idea what was out there.
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Post by duff on Jan 21, 2017 6:26:10 GMT -5
I'd be worried about small pontoon in the wind on that lake. If you stick close to launch I am sure you will be OK.
Grew up fishing that lake. We had a 14 foot semi V. Stayed on the same side of the lake. Used to be a great lake for pan fish. Have fun. Westwood lake is close too and a good lake to fish as well.
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Post by nfalls116 on Jan 21, 2017 6:55:15 GMT -5
My best advice Get as wide a boat as you can and the most comfortable flotation device you can find. Don't know what you want to spend but deals are out there. If you are looking at new most of the best deals of the year will be in Indy soon.
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Post by esshup on Jan 21, 2017 9:50:10 GMT -5
Summit lake is idle speed only I didn't know that, thanks! With that said, if I'm on the other side of an 800 acre lake with a storm brewing they can issue me a ticket for leaving a wake after it's on the trailer. Ticket or getting hit by lightening, or possibly going for a swim? Give me the ticket. I've been caught on the other side of a 365 acre lake by a bad storm and it ain't going to happen again.
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Post by schall53 on Jan 21, 2017 10:45:01 GMT -5
Summit lake is idle speed only I didn't know that, thanks! With that said, if I'm on the other side of an 800 acre lake with a storm brewing they can issue me a ticket for leaving a wake after it's on the trailer. Ticket or getting hit by lightening, or possibly going for a swim? Give me the ticket. I've been caught on the other side of a 365 acre lake by a bad storm and it ain't going to happen again. That makes two of us. Years ago we were coming across a lake in a state park, trolling motors only, when a storm came up quick. We were out in the middle when the lightening started hitting trees on shore. We knew we were dead but by the grace of God we made it off. NEVER AGAIN !!!
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 21, 2017 13:29:19 GMT -5
Summit lake is an awesome bluegill lake. Always done great catching slab gills once I learned the secret
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 21, 2017 13:30:55 GMT -5
I hear its drawn down for damn gate repairs right now? Don't know how much or how long
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 21, 2017 13:33:16 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Jan 21, 2017 13:57:56 GMT -5
That might force some of the smaller fish to water where they can't evade predators easily. That should increase the size of the predators in the next year, and also increase the size of the Bluegills as the remaining BG that avoided predation or were too big to be eaten have more food to eat.
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Post by parson on Jan 21, 2017 14:42:23 GMT -5
Summit lake is an awesome bluegill lake. Always done great catching slab gills once I learned the secret You can share that "secret" with me. I'll not tell another soul!
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Post by outdoorjoe on Jan 21, 2017 15:38:17 GMT -5
Summit lake is an awesome bluegill lake. Always done great catching slab gills once I learned the secret You can share that "secret" with me. I'll not tell another soul! Just post on gere dave. We wont tell anyone.
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