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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 15, 2016 10:01:29 GMT -5
I agree.... Also once you start taking off and putting back on at some point someone forgets to put on and opens up a chance for a accident. Put it on and leave untill your back to vehicle. I agree Greg winning comments especially span870
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Post by scrub-buster on Nov 15, 2016 10:32:22 GMT -5
Why not sew an orange vest to the butt of your camo outfit if you insist on taking it off while in the stand? You wouldn't have to worry about forgetting to put it back on when you walk out.
Any time I'm in the woods during gun season I wear an orange hat. Even if I'm cutting wood or checking a trail camera. I've heard about to many people getting shot from somebody thinking they were a deer.
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Post by GS1 on Nov 15, 2016 10:34:46 GMT -5
What I'm finding interesting is the same guys that don't want orange are same that preach every year fall restraint, fall restraint. I know what you are saying Woody about stands being stolen but look at it like this. Would you rather give up a stand or have the police call your family and have them tell them that you were shot. Private ground? How many threads do we have on here about trespassing this year so far? Is it really worth the risk? I'm going to go on a limb here and say the vast majority of stands are stolen my opportunity and not because someone seen a hunter sitting in a stand from the road and came back with the hope to steal it. Two people in this county alone could be in a lot less pain right now if they had tied off before they left the ground this past weekend. A friend in Owensboro is still in the hospital from a fall last week. In reality there are a lot of people that do not wear orange in a tree. How many of those people have been shot in the last 20 years? Fall restraint and hunter orange in a tree have no connection other than the one that should be law is not and the other one is. Just my opinion.
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Post by medic22 on Nov 15, 2016 10:42:37 GMT -5
As much as I hate useless laws, hunter orange probably saves tax payers millions of dollars every year.
All these people that fall out of a treestands and get paralyzed......were paying for thier poor choices.
Life would be simpler if people just accepted responsibility for thier poor choices.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 15, 2016 10:48:19 GMT -5
Span, Using your examples.. If I'm up 20 foot in a treestand on private ground and I don't have on HO or a full body harness which are the greatest odds that of... Getting shot Fall out of the tree stand The biggest cause of injury during deer seasons is falls from elevated tree stands. Remember to ALWAYS wear your safety harness and hunter orange (when required). Of the 170 hunting accidents reported in the past five hunting seasons 105 involved falls from tree stands. More: www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/tree-stand-safety/
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Post by 3ptbuck on Nov 15, 2016 10:49:08 GMT -5
Can I walk to and from and then sit, in a tree, during deer firearms season, with a 338 WINMAG and hunt coyotes while not wearing hunter orange? Good question. I was told a couple years ago that I needed to wear hunter orange during squirrel season once rabbit is in season? I see the correlation being small game but curious about the deer/coyote thing.
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 15, 2016 10:50:58 GMT -5
Just be like me, sit on the ground and wear hunter orange. Problem solved
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Post by swilk on Nov 15, 2016 10:53:50 GMT -5
rhetorical question.....
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Post by span870 on Nov 15, 2016 10:57:35 GMT -5
Span, Using your examples.. If I'm up 20 foot in a treestand on private ground and I don't have on HO or a full body harness which are the greatest odds that of... Getting shot Fall out of the tree stand The biggest cause of injury during deer seasons is falls from elevated tree stands. Remember to ALWAYS wear your safety harness and hunter orange (when required). Of the 170 hunting accidents reported in the past five hunting seasons 105 involved falls from tree stands. More: www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/tree-stand-safety/But what we don't know is how many lives were saved by the use of hunter orange. We've all been out thinking we were the only one in an area and seen a flash of orange that shouldn't be there. If that orange wasn't on how many shootings would have happened. I understand apples to oranges but it's a safety issue that can't be denied.
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Post by GS1 on Nov 15, 2016 11:13:44 GMT -5
Can I walk to and from and then sit, in a tree, during deer firearms season, with a 338 WINMAG and hunt coyotes while not wearing hunter orange? Before the whole rifle fiasco we are in now you would get a ticket for hunting deer with an illegal weapon. And probably for not wearing orange also.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 15, 2016 11:24:24 GMT -5
Span, Using your examples.. If I'm up 20 foot in a treestand on private ground and I don't have on HO or a full body harness which are the greatest odds that of... Getting shot Fall out of the tree stand The biggest cause of injury during deer seasons is falls from elevated tree stands. Remember to ALWAYS wear your safety harness and hunter orange (when required). Of the 170 hunting accidents reported in the past five hunting seasons 105 involved falls from tree stands. More: www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/tree-stand-safety/But what we don't know is how many lives were saved by the use of hunter orange. We've all been out thinking we were the only one in an area and seen a flash of orange that shouldn't be there. If that orange wasn't on how many shootings would have happened. I understand apples to oranges but it's a safety issue that can't be denied. That wasn't the question.. You talked about people pushing fall restraints on one hand an no hunter orange in a tree stand as being contradictory . I'm asking.. Using your examples.. If I'm up 20 foot in a treestand on private ground and I don't have on HO or a full body harness which are the greatest odds that of... Getting shot Fall out of the tree stand
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 15, 2016 11:26:57 GMT -5
Can I walk to and from and then sit, in a tree, during deer firearms season, with a 338 WINMAG and hunt coyotes while not wearing hunter orange? Before the whole rifle fiasco we are in now you would get a ticket for hunting deer with an illegal weapon. And probably for not wearing orange also. Since mulitple seasons are in would it not be that the CO would have to prove that and individual was hunting deer and not varmints ?
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Post by swilk on Nov 15, 2016 11:29:17 GMT -5
Can I walk to and from and then sit, in a tree, during deer firearms season, with a 338 WINMAG and hunt coyotes while not wearing hunter orange? Before the whole rifle fiasco we are in now you would get a ticket for hunting deer with an illegal weapon. And probably for not wearing orange also. I dont think so ..... and even if a CO was foolish enough to write that ticket I would have had my day in court.
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Post by medic22 on Nov 15, 2016 11:29:37 GMT -5
Before the whole rifle fiasco we are in now you would get a ticket for hunting deer with an illegal weapon. And probably for not wearing orange also. Since mulitple seasons are in would it not be that the CO would have to prove that and individual was hunting deer and not varmints ? Yes. Burden of proof is on the CO
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Post by GS1 on Nov 15, 2016 11:39:34 GMT -5
Before the whole rifle fiasco we are in now you would get a ticket for hunting deer with an illegal weapon. And probably for not wearing orange also. I dont think so ..... and even if a CO was foolish enough to write that ticket I would have had my day in court. You're right. You could go to court. The situation that the guy I worked with also involved a pile of bait, but he still got a ticket, lost and had to pay to get his rifle back along with the other fines and fees.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 15, 2016 11:49:47 GMT -5
Before the whole rifle fiasco we are in now you would get a ticket for hunting deer with an illegal weapon. And probably for not wearing orange also. I dont think so ..... and even if a CO was foolish enough to write that ticket I would have had my day in court. That' can be said with any ticket.... You forgot to add your lawyer and bank account also with "your day in court"
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Post by swilk on Nov 15, 2016 11:58:46 GMT -5
Didnt forget anything .....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 12:22:02 GMT -5
Why orange during gun season and not in archery season or any time there is a hunting season open anytime of the year? These laws make no sense to me. How about turkey hunters with guns??? It should be all hunting seasons or not.
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Post by poc on Nov 15, 2016 12:24:58 GMT -5
I feel afraid to post on this thread. The grammar police is running rampant! *are
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 15, 2016 12:26:53 GMT -5
I feel afraid to post on this thread. The grammar police is running rampant! *are
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