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Post by ironjaw on Oct 20, 2016 20:31:02 GMT -5
I dig your optimism. But for me, not saying medic is a sissy, but I wouldn't have walked away. I'm stubborn, and I'm Irish. and a whole lot bigger than me. And smarter. You know what battles to pick. Me? I wanna fight em all.
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Post by rabm03 on Oct 20, 2016 20:32:09 GMT -5
I haven't posted in a quite awhile! I was told by Woody to tone it down. I did! But for quite awhile subjects seem to be one sided, and if those that are in the "in crowd", don't agree, a big scrutiny is brought down. I'm not trying to stir the pot Woody, but all I'm saying is everyone should have a say in what they want to say without someone getting hurt feelings and people running to there protection.
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Post by tynimiller on Oct 20, 2016 21:28:36 GMT -5
Well I believe you that a deer will not relocate if they have all they require, bucks will relocate when a dominant buck is killed in an area to tend the does there, and deer will relocate when that food source is depleted by over browsing. So I agree with your premise, but your also a young hunter who wasn't around when deer were scarce all over the state so take all the game you legally can but be conscious of how these other guys feel who have seen that time. Seems like to prove someone is right or wrong on this site an argument has to take place, I thought we were all on the same team here. Agree to disagree. I am quite possibly one of the biggest supporters of being extremely conscious of how your doe harvest can impact your localized herds. I myself never take a 2nd doe typically ever if at all till after firearms season is over...as to re-evaluate to the best of my ability the doe harvest impact present from the firearms season.
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Post by beermaker on Oct 21, 2016 4:38:23 GMT -5
I have a question. Do people pre-determine a given number of does to take because they think they will improve the buck hunting, or because they think they are being good stewards of the land? I am strictly a meat hunter and will not hunting anymore unless I plan to shoot something and have time to get it in the freezer. I won't shoot small bucks because the meat just isn't that good and they are usually nasty to clean, but I will shoot what I consider a large one and just grind it all for jerky and sausage. I limit my harvest based on what I saw the year before and how many my hunting partners have shot. I saw plenty of bucks and does last year and our combined doe harvest was only three. The county limit is four this year, but three is plenty for my family and I am comfortable that the parcel is holding plenty of deer for me to take that many.
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Post by bill9068 on Oct 21, 2016 9:54:10 GMT -5
Well I believe you that a deer will not relocate if they have all they require, bucks will relocate when a dominant buck is killed in an area to tend the does there, and deer will relocate when that food source is depleted by over browsing. So I agree with your premise, but your also a young hunter who wasn't around when deer were scarce all over the state so take all the game you legally can but be conscious of how these other guys feel who have seen that time. Seems like to prove someone is right or wrong on this site an argument has to take place, I thought we were all on the same team here. Agree to disagree. I am quite possibly one of the biggest supporters of being extremely conscious of how your doe harvest can impact your localized herds. I myself never take a 2nd doe typically ever if at all till after firearms season is over...as to re-evaluate to the best of my ability the doe harvest impact present from the firearms season. Good to hear, good luck this season, hope you get a big one.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 21, 2016 11:04:22 GMT -5
I'll end my input on this topic by saying that property owner's who manage their properties for wildlife IMO have a better grasp of the deer population in their immediate area's than anyone else. Myself I try to harvest according to deer number's that I see throughout the spring and summer. On my 150 acre's we have taken as many as 16 doe's off of in 2004 and as few as 2 in 2012 (EHD hit pretty hard.) Last season doe number's appeared down so we harvested only 3 antlerless and 0 bucks. Deer have rebounded well and we had a bumper crop of yearlings this spring. Am out to reduce antlerless this season and hope to harvest 10-12 off of farm. Some think this is too many but to each his own. I have large blocks of acreage surrounding me and some of the properties are only lightly hunted. Very easy here for deer number's to grow rapidly form one year to next.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Oct 21, 2016 17:57:10 GMT -5
If the deer numbers support that kind of a harvest, fine. I don't have an issue with harvesting does. I rather enjoy it to be honest however, my main property does not have the deer numbers. I personally believe that no does should be shot for a year or two. That's not based on just my sightings but, 9 of the other 12 hunters aren't seeing many does. 6-8 is all. I do have access to other farms that do gave large deer numbers but my access to the properties are limited so I can't hunt them much. I'm hoping to hunt one tomorrow morning and get my own doe.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 21, 2016 19:52:30 GMT -5
That's kinda my point. Hunters know their hunting grounds better than IDNR. You have to micro manage your area best you can. There are areas that are over populated yet 5 miles away maybe be low on numbers.
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Post by woodmaster on Oct 21, 2016 20:52:41 GMT -5
I agree.... But there are also some that will shoot to fill there tags then donate the meat... IMO that's killing to just be killing ! Have to agree here. Not a big fan on the kill and donate. We have a browse line & it was nothing to see 50-60 deer (mostly does) in a 150 acre field. In order to get the herd in balance we had to shoot 30-35 does. We did this for 2 years. How in the heck are 5-6 guys & their family gonna eat that many deer? We gave several to friends & family who dont hunt. I dont understand what is wrong with that?!?!?!?!?!
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 21, 2016 21:06:37 GMT -5
Have to agree here. Not a big fan on the kill and donate. We have a browse line & it was nothing to see 50-60 deer (mostly does) in a 150 acre field. In order to get the herd in balance we had to shoot 30-35 does. We did this for 2 years. How in the heck are 5-6 guys & their family gonna eat that many deer? We gave several to friends & family who dont hunt. I dont understand what is wrong with that?!?!?!?!?! Ain't nothing wrong with it. I'm sure the families who received the meat were glad to have it.
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Post by span870 on Oct 21, 2016 21:09:42 GMT -5
Have to agree here. Not a big fan on the kill and donate. We have a browse line & it was nothing to see 50-60 deer (mostly does) in a 150 acre field. In order to get the herd in balance we had to shoot 30-35 does. We did this for 2 years. How in the heck are 5-6 guys & their family gonna eat that many deer? We gave several to friends & family who dont hunt. I dont understand what is wrong with that?!?!?!?!?! Dont mind that at all. What I don't like is guys going to say, hnf, shooting a deer, and donating to a processor. They aren't shooting the deer to manage property, they are shooting it just to shoot it. Same as guys going to park hunts, shooting two maybe three deer and donating them there at the park. Let someone else that wants the deer shoot them. You're managing your property, they are just killing something to kill it. Means nothing to me. It's legal, they can do whatever floats their boat, I'm just not a fan of it.
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Post by jackryan on Oct 21, 2016 23:00:10 GMT -5
We have a browse line & it was nothing to see 50-60 deer (mostly does) in a 150 acre field. In order to get the herd in balance we had to shoot 30-35 does. We did this for 2 years. How in the heck are 5-6 guys & their family gonna eat that many deer? We gave several to friends & family who dont hunt. I dont understand what is wrong with that?!?!?!?!?! Dont mind that at all. What I don't like is guys going to say, hnf, shooting a deer, and donating to a processor. They aren't shooting the deer to manage property, they are shooting it just to shoot it. Same as guys going to park hunts, shooting two maybe three deer and donating them there at the park. Let someone else that wants the deer shoot them. You're managing your property, they are just killing something to kill it. Means nothing to me. It's legal, they can do whatever floats their boat, I'm just not a fan of it. The people who do that for the most part probably kill and wound twice as many as they find on top of that. What do they care, when they ruin the hunting one place they just move somewhere else. If you have to drive two hours to find a place they'll let them hunt, what's the difference to them which way they drive.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 22, 2016 5:49:24 GMT -5
Obviousily I'm not going to harvest 10-12 myself (County limit 4). Have few hunting friends I am asking for help. Preferably get a buck down first before start on few doe's. I shut deer hunting down my farm Dec. 1 so next 5 weeks will be lot of tree setting.
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