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Post by M4Madness on Oct 19, 2016 16:58:35 GMT -5
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Post by mkfrench on Oct 19, 2016 17:36:07 GMT -5
Bahaha! That "certain group" would definitely s&!t themselves!
But seriously how could that happen in such a well managed state and by such a noted whitetail show(Bill Winke has been trophy hunting, managing, researching, writing and teaching folks about deer LONG before the TV/sponsor fad.) Why would such a noted personality allow this type of behavior?
Next thing you know, that "certain group" will be trying to form a committee to abolish 6 deer a day limits across the Midwest.
Iowa is generally the gold standard for deer management.
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Post by ironjaw on Oct 19, 2016 18:02:39 GMT -5
Warren County 2012.  It was a nice smooth ride home.  |
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Post by mkfrench on Oct 19, 2016 18:22:06 GMT -5
The most I ever had in one truck was 5(2 for me 3 for grandfather). Never thought to take a pic but we got lots of honks and thumbs up on way home. Had 4 wheeler and 2 climbing stands in truck also. We had deer legs sticking out every where! LOL.
Was opening morning of Muzzleloader season 2010. Great memory.
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Post by ironjaw on Oct 19, 2016 18:31:12 GMT -5
The most I ever had in one truck was 5(2 for me 3 for grandfather). Never thought to take a pic but we got lots of honks and thumbs up on way home. Had 4 wheeler and 2 climbing stands in truck also. We had deer legs sticking out every where! LOL. Was opening morning of Muzzleloader season 2010. Great memory. I only got flipped off once. Everyone else was thumbs up and smiles. |
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Post by span870 on Oct 19, 2016 18:53:44 GMT -5
I wish I could find the picture my dad had of opening day of doe season years ago in Pennsylvania. Back then you could use party tags. Majority of doe hunting was done by clubs driving deer. You were allowed a limit of 25 guys. They filled the back of an old panel truck with 25 doe before noon. Of course back then it was nothing to see a herd of 18-20 doe come by at once. You wanna talk about noise hearing them coming at you pushed in the drive. They weren't running like deer you see in indiana that are pushed. They had their ears layed back and bellies touching the ground. By then they had been shot at up and down the mountain. May not be true "hunting" in some eyes, but it was something to see. By the time they came off the mountain and hit my grandpa's field they were full tilt and you were leading them 6-7 deer length and still shooting behind. Crazy enough, all hpr, and don't recall anyone ever getting shot. Hmmmm?
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Post by darinfry on Oct 19, 2016 19:02:54 GMT -5
While I'm not a huge fan of some of the big name outdoor personalities these days I love Midwest whitetail and Bill winke. I feel he is one of the most knowledgeable and informative guys out there. If he thinks his farm needs those kind of numbers harvested to keep the does in check its a safe bet to say it's a good idea
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Post by span870 on Oct 19, 2016 19:03:20 GMT -5
Bahaha! That "certain group" would definitely s&!t themselves! But seriously how could that happen in such a well managed state and by such a noted whitetail show(Bill Winke has been trophy hunting, managing, researching, writing and teaching folks about deer LONG before the TV/sponsor fad.) Why would such a noted personality allow this type of behavior? Next thing you know, that "certain group" will be trying to form a committee to abolish 6 deer a day limits across the Midwest. Iowa is generally the gold standard for deer management. Dont know if you are serious about how can he let this happen. These farms take a huge amount of does off them each year. I was watching an episode of Lee and Tiffany and Lee said on the one farm they needed to take up to 100 doe off it and on all his farms they average something like 400 doe they have to kill each year. They keep the food banks well stocked. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 19, 2016 19:24:37 GMT -5
Bahaha! That "certain group" would definitely s&!t themselves! But seriously how could that happen in such a well managed state and by such a noted whitetail show(Bill Winke has been trophy hunting, managing, researching, writing and teaching folks about deer LONG before the TV/sponsor fad.) Why would such a noted personality allow this type of behavior? Next thing you know, that "certain group" will be trying to form a committee to abolish 6 deer a day limits across the Midwest. Iowa is generally the gold standard for deer management. Dont know if you are serious about how can he let this happen. These farms take a huge amount of does off them each year. I was watching an episode of Lee and Tiffany and Lee said on the one farm they needed to take up to 100 doe off it and on all his farms they average something like 400 doe they have to kill each year. They keep the food banks well stocked. I'd say Winke knows a little bit more about Whitetails, especially the ones on his farm, than most anyone else. He is pretty sharp on them although I disagree with his moon thing on the rut. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 19, 2016 19:26:11 GMT -5
Btw - Woodmaster and his crew tries to take at least a dozen does off their lease every year...
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Post by poc on Oct 19, 2016 19:33:16 GMT -5
Btw - Woodmaster and his crew tries to take at least a dozen does off their lease every year... Between IJ and a few others that hunt our property (some of which I wasn't privy to) we took 15 off our 300 acres a few years ago, too many to me. So I've tried to stay on top of who all is hunting our property now. |
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Post by greghopper on Oct 19, 2016 19:48:26 GMT -5
Btw - Woodmaster and his crew tries to take at least a dozen does off their lease every year... Have they ever counted or have a estimate of how many Deer (either sex) is in there hunting area? Just a question.... |
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Post by span870 on Oct 19, 2016 20:03:34 GMT -5
Dont know if you are serious about how can he let this happen. These farms take a huge amount of does off them each year. I was watching an episode of Lee and Tiffany and Lee said on the one farm they needed to take up to 100 doe off it and on all his farms they average something like 400 doe they have to kill each year. They keep the food banks well stocked. I'd say Winke knows a little bit more about Whitetails, especially the ones on his farm, than most anyone else. He is pretty sharp on them although I disagree with his moon thing on the rut. I agree woody. Like or hate them,( Winke, Kisky's and Lakosky's) definitely know their land and what it takes to grow them and manage. It just amazed me when they were talking about taking that many doe off one property. You'd almost get sick just killing them constantly. After the rut they just hammer them. |
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Post by GS1 on Oct 19, 2016 20:11:21 GMT -5
I killed 4 out of the same tree one evening 20+ years ago. If the tree was still there today you could easily do it now on any given day of firearms season.
Bordering a conservation club that didn't allow hunting and 240 acres that didn't allow any (ZERO) does to be shot had its advantages.
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Post by throbak on Oct 19, 2016 21:01:22 GMT -5
Btw - Woodmaster and his crew tries to take at least a dozen does off their lease every year... Between IJ and a few others that hunt our property (some of which I wasn't privy to) we took 15 off our 300 acres a few years ago, too many to me. So I've tried to stay on top of who all is hunting our property now. And that is why if there is a problem with deer numbers is Why !! And I'm not condemning anyone People lease and pay good money to kill deer And that kind of Action will determine what you are seeing |
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Post by ironjaw on Oct 19, 2016 22:15:10 GMT -5
Oh boy, here we go.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 20, 2016 6:23:38 GMT -5
I'd say Winke knows a little bit more about Whitetails, especially the ones on his farm, than most anyone else. He is pretty sharp on them although I disagree with his moon thing on the rut. I agree woody. Like or hate them,( Winke, Kisky's and Lakosky's) definitely know their land and what it takes to grow them and manage. It just amazed me when they were talking about taking that many doe off one property. You'd almost get sick just killing them constantly. After the rut they just hammer them. At that point hunting becomes a cull. Culls are not all that much fun... |
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Post by greghopper on Oct 20, 2016 6:30:28 GMT -5
Between IJ and a few others that hunt our property (some of which I wasn't privy to) we took 15 off our 300 acres a few years ago, too many to me. So I've tried to stay on top of who all is hunting our property now. And that is why if there is a problem with deer numbers is Why !! And I'm not condemning anyone People lease and pay good money to kill deer And that kind of Action will determine what you are seeing Exactly....some folks will kill just to kill! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 7:14:48 GMT -5
Back in 1987 we changed a name of a stand to the "Widow Maker". We took 7 bucks in one gun season from that stand. I took #7 a 10 pointer on the last day. That spot has been a good spot from day one.
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Post by ironjaw on Oct 20, 2016 7:51:47 GMT -5
Let's clear this right now. I'm not an unethical hunter and every deer I kill gets eaten.
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