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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2016 8:10:03 GMT -5
About. -1,500 deer difference I know I shouldn't have to say it but we have 48hrs to check our deer in still You're right.. Now it is... 113,542 at 7:10 am Dec 19 biggrin2
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Post by greghopper on Dec 19, 2016 8:36:56 GMT -5
I know I shouldn't have to say it but we have 48hrs to check our deer in still You're right.. Now it is... 113,542 at 7:10 am Dec 19 biggrin2 Down about 3,000 overall or 3%
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2016 8:51:03 GMT -5
You're right.. Now it is... 113,542 at 7:10 am Dec 19 biggrin2 Down about 3,000 overall or 3% How do you figure that...see.. Current reported deer harvest 113,487 From Sept 15, 2016 to Sunday, December 18, 2016 Deer harvest numbers are updated as deer are checked in via CheckIN Game. All numbers are raw data that have not been verified by the Indiana DNR. This date last year.... Well, we topped 115,000Current reported deer harvest:
115015
As of Friday, December 18, 2015 at 4:05 PM CST
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Post by greghopper on Dec 19, 2016 9:12:43 GMT -5
I was looking at last day numbers after ML from last year and this year
116,560 -2015
113,465- 2016
-3,095 .... But your right today is a different story
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2016 10:59:49 GMT -5
I was looking at last day numbers after ML from last year and this year 116,560 -2015 113,465- 2016 -3,095 .... But your right today is a different story The comparison made on the "other site" gave a false comparison. Since MZ closed two days earlier this year it was wrong to compare the two. That poster is usually pretty sharp but he missed this one.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 19, 2016 11:07:46 GMT -5
So your saying that we will always be down the years that lesser days to hunt total ? Have you done any comparisons from past short years?
Yes I just posted/looked at the numbers quoted.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2016 11:20:39 GMT -5
So your saying that we will always be down the years that lesser days to hunt total ? Have you done any comparisons from past short years? Yes I just posted/looked at the numbers quoted. I was referring to John Scifres numbers. The firearms season and muzzleloader season day numbers are set in stone. The "early archery" is not. Anytime you take deer hunters out of the woods in prime time means they will kill less deer.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 19, 2016 11:34:43 GMT -5
Has that happened in past years... Where the years with less days equated to lower overall Deer harvest?
When was the last year we had less days?
Just questions.... I haven't looked to know!
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Post by arlowe13 on Dec 19, 2016 15:24:06 GMT -5
Deer per day of Early archery season. Basically took the early archery total harvest and divided by the number of days from 10/1 until start of Firearms season. I know Early archery technically goes until the beginning of the bonus antlerless season, but we can assume the majority killed by a bow were done in the days before gun season. It appears up until crossbows were legal, more and more deer were being killed per day by archery equipment. Seems to have leveled out a bit after 2012, but it's still too early to make a definite conclusion.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 19, 2016 20:46:42 GMT -5
Do you have the start Dates for the chart above? If so please post it... *
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 19, 2016 20:50:42 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Dec 20, 2016 0:17:02 GMT -5
So your saying that we will always be down the years that lesser days to hunt total ? Have you done any comparisons from past short years? Yes I just posted/looked at the numbers quoted. I was referring to John Scifres numbers. The firearms season and muzzleloader season day numbers are set in stone. The "early archery" is not. Anytime you take deer hunters out of the woods in prime time means they will kill less deer. Woody, is his Dad's first name Dwight? If so, I know his dad.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 20, 2016 7:51:37 GMT -5
So your saying that we will always be down the years that lesser days to hunt total ? Have you done any comparisons from past short years? Yes I just posted/looked at the numbers quoted. I was referring to John Scifres numbers. The firearms season and muzzleloader season day numbers are set in stone. The "early archery" is not. Anytime you take deer hunters out of the woods in prime time means they will kill less deer. Correct "early archery" season changes every year....after reviewing how the dates work the length of "early archery" season varies every year due to the floating firearm opener. The firearms season floats between November 12th and November 18th (first Saturday after November 11th)....so a potential 7 day difference in "early archery" season length. Next year the firearms opener flips back to the 18th...so bow hunters pick up a full week of rut hunting compared to this year.....So "early archery" numbers should be up next year...no excuses
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 20, 2016 8:46:47 GMT -5
I was referring to John Scifres numbers. The firearms season and muzzleloader season day numbers are set in stone. The "early archery" is not. Anytime you take deer hunters out of the woods in prime time means they will kill less deer. Correct "early archery" season changes every year....after reviewing how the dates work the length of "early archery" season varies every year due to the floating firearm opener. The firearms season floats between November 12th and November 18th (first Saturday after November 11th)....so a potential 7 day difference in "early archery" season length. Next year the firearms opener flips back to the 18th...so bow hunters pick up a full week of rut hunting compared to this year.....So "early archery" numbers should be up next year...no excuses LOL ... LOTS variables year to year to make such a blanket statement but one thing is sure -if a bowhunter can't hunt those days they can't kill a deer .
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Post by greghopper on Dec 20, 2016 10:26:59 GMT -5
I agree...... To be honest I really hadn't give it any thought on how the Early Achery days changed untill you brought it up. Never to Old to learn it seems!
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Post by jjas on Dec 20, 2016 10:52:20 GMT -5
I agree...... To be honest I really hadn't give it any thought on how the Early Achery days changed untill you brought it up. Never to Old to learn it seems! . I really hadn't thought about it much myself, but it makes sense.....
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 20, 2016 10:57:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked if next year's early archery has around 2 to 3 thousand more deer harvested. The two weeks prior to firearm season are when a lot of deer get taken as a culmination of guys pushing it more to get something down before deer change some due to firearms, some guys simply stay out until Halloween-ish for a lower pressure and now with crossbows for all I know some more gun lovers will hit the woods with their crossbows than before. Give that group 6 or 7 more days and a lot can happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 11:07:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked if next year's early archery has around 2 to 3 thousand more deer harvested. The two weeks prior to firearm season are when a lot of deer get taken as a culmination of guys pushing it more to get something down before deer change some due to firearms, some guys simply stay out until Halloween-ish for a lower pressure and now with crossbows for all I know some more gun lovers will hit the woods with their crossbows than before. Give that group 6 or 7 more days and a lot can happen. Right on. I think I purchased my first bow in 1987 for the same reasons. Now, as I get older I like the warmer, easier weather. The arthritis that I inherited does not hurt as much. I've taken 95+% of bucks and does before gun season or 1st morning of gun season. There no way I can sneak in, every joint clicks and snaps when I move. I still have that old pre-Bear bow.
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Post by trapperdave on Dec 21, 2016 11:11:33 GMT -5
Y'all have confused me.... Sure archery kill will be down with early gun opener...but hunters are still hunting, just with guns. No days of total hunting have been lost. Just a chagnge in weapon used.
Deer season is still October 1- January 1 ..ish
To say the lower overall harvest is due to early gun season makes zero sense
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Post by greghopper on Dec 21, 2016 11:22:36 GMT -5
Y'all have confused me.... Sure archery kill will be down with early gun opener...but hunters are still hunting, just with guns. No days of total hunting have been lost. Just a chagnge in weapon used. Deer season is still October 1- January 1 ..ish To say the lower overall harvest is due to early gun season makes zero sense The Time frame for the weapon is the key point I believe WW is making!
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