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Post by greghopper on Dec 6, 2016 16:27:34 GMT -5
I knew you wouldn't want to see the facts...... No one stiring anything ....just shinning the light of truth where needed sorry it didn't aling with your half information TY. No need to back up now! Half information. I merely stated harvest totals and really didn't try to equate or manipulate them or tie them to any factors. Truly if one wants to things like start of firearm season and weather and number of hunters all need to be analyzed and separated. Honestly love to see the data done that way, I only listed harvest totals and nothing more and didn't draw any huge blanket statements from them. Crack me up Ok..... I thought you where asking me for information that made "actual difference" so you * and ad. Your right it Cracked me up also that you didn't know that info...
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Post by bigbuckd on Dec 7, 2016 10:10:54 GMT -5
The only impact new resources would have would be in the impact of new hunter recruitment to allow easier access and higher probability of success due to efficiency of the HPR. Therefore unless HPR = new hunters the addition of new regulations, HPR, would not equal more deer harvested. So you're saying the current number of hunters have a cap? If you're sitting in a tree last year and you have deer 200 yards out, but because you have a shotgun, you where unsuccessful. This year you're using a 308, does anything change? My common core math can't wrap my head around the fact that one doesn't now become more successful? If the current number of hunters participating in hunting remains the same year over year then Yes the harvest/kill numbers will remain +/- in the range of nominal year over year harvest/kill rate despite the changes in regulations allowing HPR. Harvesting a deer is based on opportunity plus the ability to execute with a weapon. While the ability to execute increases the opportunity remains the same as previous years. Therefore the harvest/kill rate stays within the nominal range. The only exception would be the recruitment of the overall participation rate due to the ease of use of HPR. Increase of participants = increase of harvest.
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Post by hornzilla on Dec 7, 2016 10:36:48 GMT -5
Well, I will bet. When the smoke clears and the numbers are in (what ever they are). Next year we will still be hunting deer. Yes they will be deer to hunt. And we will still be hunting them with bows, shotguns,muzzleloaders, handguns and yes even crossbows and HPR. And there will probably be this same topic, heck it might even be this one still going on.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 7, 2016 10:40:10 GMT -5
Posted already on other thread but pulled cams and had ton's of antlerless pics, 2 bucks that have already dropped 1 side and 3 that were 120" plus. Future looks bright my area.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 7, 2016 11:53:33 GMT -5
Zzzzz thought this was about deer harvested so far not who can type the most without saying anything
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Dec 7, 2016 13:09:38 GMT -5
107,914. Now we are back on topic.
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Post by trapperdave on Dec 8, 2016 0:03:53 GMT -5
108,157
Sure has slowed down
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Post by chasingtails on Dec 8, 2016 5:47:56 GMT -5
Slow crawl now. We will see what happens in the north after this snow tonight an colder weather next week. Do they move more when its in lower teeens?
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 8, 2016 8:03:44 GMT -5
Week days are slow for all seasons but more so for muzzleloader. Most deer hunters have used up their vacation time by now and its weekend hunts if they hunt at all.
Deer are moving slow in my area .....
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 8, 2016 13:00:55 GMT -5
With all the hunter's and group's saying they aren't seeing deer and encouraging hunter's not to shoot doe's, I am wondering if that will contribute to less deer being harvesting this year ?
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Post by jjas on Dec 8, 2016 14:10:04 GMT -5
With all the hunter's and group's saying they aren't seeing deer and encouraging hunter's not to shoot doe's, I am wondering if that will contribute to less deer being harvesting this year ? That's a good question....
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Post by trapperdave on Dec 8, 2016 14:26:24 GMT -5
Slow crawl now. We will see what happens in the north after this snow tonight an colder weather next week. Do they move more when its in lower teeens? Yup. Have to eat more to stay warm
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 8, 2016 14:26:26 GMT -5
With all the hunter's and group's saying they aren't seeing deer and encouraging hunter's not to shoot doe's, I am wondering if that will contribute to less deer being harvesting this year ? I will merely say that with the growing numbers of hunters claiming not only to be seeing nothing hardly but sitting out from harvesting a doe entirely altogether leaves me truly scratching my head on where all the harvests are coming from. Gonna be quite awhile from now but be curious to see the county by county totals more so than normal this go around.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 8, 2016 14:29:09 GMT -5
With all the hunter's and group's saying they aren't seeing deer and encouraging hunter's not to shoot doe's, I am wondering if that will contribute to less deer being harvesting this year ? I will merely say that with the growing numbers of hunters claiming not only to be seeing nothing hardly but sitting out from harvesting a doe entirely altogether leaves me truly scratching my head on where all the harvests are coming from. Gonna be quite awhile from now but be curious to see the county by county totals more so than normal this go around. Maybe poachers have decided to do online checkin???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 14:34:34 GMT -5
I will merely say that with the growing numbers of hunters claiming not only to be seeing nothing hardly but sitting out from harvesting a doe entirely altogether leaves me truly scratching my head on where all the harvests are coming from. Gonna be quite awhile from now but be curious to see the county by county totals more so than normal this go around. Maybe poachers have decided to do online checkin??? Maybe the IDNR license database has been hacked and poachers are using the license numbers to check-in their poached deer? LOL
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Post by jjas on Dec 8, 2016 15:12:39 GMT -5
With all the hunter's and group's saying they aren't seeing deer and encouraging hunter's not to shoot doe's, I am wondering if that will contribute to less deer being harvesting this year ? I will merely say that with the growing numbers of hunters claiming not only to be seeing nothing hardly but sitting out from harvesting a doe entirely altogether leaves me truly scratching my head on where all the harvests are coming from. Gonna be quite awhile from now but be curious to see the county by county totals more so than normal this go around. Right now, we are about 2,400 deer behind as compared to this day last season. Does that mean we will end up lower? Who knows. I agree with you in that this years county numbers will be interesting to compare with past seasons.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 8, 2016 16:29:07 GMT -5
Maybe poachers have decided to do online checkin??? Maybe the IDNR license database has been hacked and poachers are using the license numbers to check-in their poached deer? LOL The few Democrat deer hunters are saying that the Russians are doing it..
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 8, 2016 19:46:09 GMT -5
Either way, there is no winning the argument. If more deer are killed this year than last year, people will say that we are killing too many. If we fall short this year, they'll say, "See, we told you that the DNR has been killing off all the deer."
The only thing going to save the northern half of the state is turning all of those crop fields back into forest. I'd venture to guess that you could limit hunters to one deer each and the deer would still get hammered just the same up there. It's hard to have a herd when they have nowhere to hide.
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Post by trapperdave on Dec 9, 2016 0:09:41 GMT -5
I will merely say that with the growing numbers of hunters claiming not only to be seeing nothing hardly but sitting out from harvesting a doe entirely altogether leaves me truly scratching my head on where all the harvests are coming from. Gonna be quite awhile from now but be curious to see the county by county totals more so than normal this go around. Right now, we are about 2,400 deer behind as compared to this day last season. Does that mean we will end up lower? Who knows. I agree with you in that this years county numbers will be interesting to compare with past seasons. I bet we make up a lot of ground over the weekend
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Post by trapperdave on Dec 9, 2016 0:13:26 GMT -5
108,419
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