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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on May 12, 2016 19:29:23 GMT -5
I'm not ashamed.. after all my "grown-up" financial responsibilities have been met, anything left over is spent on hunting. Don't believe me? Just ask my wife
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Post by duff on May 12, 2016 19:53:44 GMT -5
I'm not ashamed.. after all my "grown-up" financial responsibilities have been met, anything left over is spent on hunting. Don't believe me? Just ask my wife you are still a kid. no way you have grown up stuff to do
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Post by duff on May 12, 2016 20:01:17 GMT -5
i love free stuff
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 12, 2016 21:23:29 GMT -5
People who lease cannot be hunting for food alone. They hunt for the enjoyment of the sport, and this is entirely relative to the individual. If one compares the cost of hourly entertainment, it's probably not bad.
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Post by ms660 on May 12, 2016 22:01:30 GMT -5
You can't put a price on a good time!!!
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Post by nfalls116 on May 13, 2016 0:48:27 GMT -5
You can't put a price on a good time!!! the less I pay the more fun I have.
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Post by drs on May 13, 2016 4:52:53 GMT -5
Some folks can work their mind around something being "free" and some can't. In my mind there is very, very little in this world that is free and hunting just isn't one of them. Swilk, you might be partly correct on this topic. Yes, if one owns property they must be able to keep-it-up to their satisfaction and this does take some money. However, they have a choice on how much improvement they wish to accomplish this, plus there is and always be property taxes to pay. Now, on the subject of hunting Deer, on ones own property, it can be free or cost more then the beef purchase at your local grocery store. Especially if you lease & drive a fair distance to your hunting spot + having it processed for you. If you own you own hunting property:1. You're not required to have a hunting license (most states) to hunt on your own property, if you live on said property. 2. You have a choice of having: your Deer processed by yourself which cost you very little & time, or have it done by a processor, which will cost you up to $80 depending on where you have it processed. 3. You, have the option to allow who you want to hunt on your property, or not allowing anyone to hunt, except family. 4. Also, mentioned in a few posts here, just the fact you own your own property, one can do other things that aren't possible, if you live in a subdivision. Owning your own land is also an investment. Those wishing to one day own their own hunting property should:1. Stop spending their money on exotic guided hunts like: going out West, which will cost you money you could have saved. 2. Quit impulse buying on hunting equipment you don't really need. 3. If you must shop around and compare prices on leasing land, remember that money spent on a lease is gone. This money could have been set aside and saved for that property one wants. Try hunting public lands instead of leasing. 4. Place some of your earnings in a growth mutual fund, outside of a 40lK or IRA. 5. Overall, prudent handling and saving some of your earnings will get you that hunting property sooner than you think.
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Post by duff on May 13, 2016 5:24:45 GMT -5
or inheritance or lotto or don't have kids or luck into a great spot at a great price.
But i agree for the most part working hard at everything you want is the key to obtaining goals.
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Post by drs on May 13, 2016 5:46:56 GMT -5
or inheritance or lotto or don't have kids or luck into a great spot at a great price. But i agree for the most part working hard at everything you want is the key to obtaining goals.CORRECT!!
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Post by greghopper on May 13, 2016 7:15:10 GMT -5
Or do it the American way and win the Lotto...... Not !!!!
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Post by tynimiller on May 13, 2016 7:37:43 GMT -5
My personal case was worked hard to get out of debt fast + caught an insanely good deal....this investment though will hopefully fund a future one on better ground I already hunt for "free" (swilk has me using " " now...he may have won haha!).
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Post by Woody Williams on May 13, 2016 7:42:25 GMT -5
or inheritance or lotto or don't have kids or luck into a great spot at a great price. But i agree for the most part working hard at everything you want is the key to obtaining goals. I'm waiting on Bernie to offer "free " hunting.. .
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Post by swilk on May 13, 2016 7:51:23 GMT -5
Im just hoping this coal thing catches on and a mine wants to go under my property ...... if I make a few hundred thousand $$ and still keep the property Ill admit that Im hunting for "free".
Buying land for those that arent wealthy is just like anything else .... sacrifice and save. Make bold moves and take risks. Do without in the short term with a long term goal in mind.
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Post by drs on May 13, 2016 8:38:21 GMT -5
I am just hoping this coal thing catches on and a mine wants to go under my property ...... if I make a few hundred thousand $$ and still keep the property Ill admit that I am hunting for "free". Buying land for those that aren't wealthy is just like anything else .... sacrifice and save. Make bold moves and take risks. Do without in the short term with a long term goal in mind. Correct! In my case, I am lucky to be in the position that I never had to borrow any money. I don't have any payments like on automobiles, my home/property or anything else. Still, for the average individual, wishing to own land, saving, investing, and spending wisely, remains to be the best way to obtain that much wanted land. As for the future of coal, this remains somewhat of a "political" issue which makes it uncertain for an investment, especially if the Democrats win this fall. I know several individuals who had their property mined for coal and they (except a few) only ended-up with messed-up property and no more money than if they just farmed their property. I use to hunt on such a place in Eastern Pike County, years ago. The property was really in a nasty mess and the coal company then went bankrupt!! So the owner never made much money on that deal, and regretted it until the day he died.
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Post by drs on May 13, 2016 8:39:36 GMT -5
or inheritance or lotto or don't have kids or luck into a great spot at a great price. But i agree for the most part working hard at everything you want is the key to obtaining goals. I'm waiting on Bernie to offer "free " hunting.. . BUT, "Bernie" wants to take our guns from us!!
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Post by tynimiller on May 13, 2016 8:53:31 GMT -5
I'm waiting on Bernie to offer "free " hunting.. . BUT, "Bernie" wants to take our guns from us!! Become a bowhunter....just another reason
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Post by hornzilla on May 13, 2016 18:28:28 GMT -5
You can't put a price on a good time!!! the less I pay the more fun I have. Then you would hate to own a sprint car. Lol But like the first post. You can't put a price on a good time. And 800 hundred plus horse power is FUN.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 13, 2016 20:11:43 GMT -5
the less I pay the more fun I have. Then you would hate to own a sprint car. Lol But like the first post. You can't put a price on a good time. And 800 hundred plus horse power is FUN. I wouldn't hate to own one I would just hate to buy it and everything involved because I just can't afford it. Lol
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Post by ms660 on May 13, 2016 21:13:49 GMT -5
I am just hoping this coal thing catches on and a mine wants to go under my property ...... if I make a few hundred thousand $$ and still keep the property Ill admit that I am hunting for "free". Buying land for those that aren't wealthy is just like anything else .... sacrifice and save. Make bold moves and take risks. Do without in the short term with a long term goal in mind. Correct! In my case, I am lucky to be in the position that I never had to borrow any money. I don't have any payments like on automobiles, my home/property or anything else. Still, for the average individual, wishing to own land, saving, investing, and spending wisely, remains to be the best way to obtain that much wanted land. As for the future of coal, this remains somewhat of a "political" issue which makes it uncertain for an investment, especially if the Democrats win this fall. I know several individuals who had their property mined for coal and they (except a few) only ended-up with messed-up property and no more money than if they just farmed their property. I use to hunt on such a place in Eastern Pike County, years ago. The property was really in a nasty mess and the coal company then went bankrupt!! So the owner never made much money on that deal, and regretted it until the day he died. Are you saying that the mine (Old Ben Coal I assume) didn't do the government required reclamation to his land after it was mined? I have been a Piker for half my life and when I lived in Gibson county it was on the Pike Gibson line. I been doing reclamation work for 30 years for all the the mines in Pike county except for Solar Sources and don't know anyone that sold their coal to any of the mines here that didn't come out smelling like a rose. All ground that is mined has to be bonded before the DNR will give them a permit to mine the coal. The bond money will only be released after everything is put back to standards the DNR sets. If not the mine will lose that money and then what money was put up for the bond will be used for reclaiming that ground. If it was before 1972 there are funds available for that ground to be reclaimed. Money taken out from every ton of coal sold.
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Post by drs on May 14, 2016 4:50:50 GMT -5
Correct! In my case, I am lucky to be in the position that I never had to borrow any money. I don't have any payments like on automobiles, my home/property or anything else. Still, for the average individual, wishing to own land, saving, investing, and spending wisely, remains to be the best way to obtain that much wanted land. As for the future of coal, this remains somewhat of a "political" issue which makes it uncertain for an investment, especially if the Democrats win this fall. I know several individuals who had their property mined for coal and they (except a few) only ended-up with messed-up property and no more money than if they just farmed their property. I use to hunt on such a place in Eastern Pike County, years ago. The property was really in a nasty mess and the coal company then went bankrupt!! So the owner never made much money on that deal, and regretted it until the day he died. Are you saying that the mine (Old Ben Coal I assume) didn't do the government required reclamation to his land after it was mined? I have been a Piker for half my life and when I lived in Gibson county it was on the Pike Gibson line. I been doing reclamation work for 30 years for all the the mines in Pike county except for Solar Sources and don't know anyone that sold their coal to any of the mines here that didn't come out smelling like a rose. All ground that is mined has to be bonded before the DNR will give them a permit to mine the coal. The bond money will only be released after everything is put back to standards the DNR sets. If not the mine will lose that money and then what money was put up for the bond will be used for reclaiming that ground. If it was before 1972 there are funds available for that ground to be reclaimed. Money taken out from every ton of coal sold. I am not certain of which coal company mined the area in Pike County, but they left a real mess. I can tell you it was near Sugar Ridge Wildlife Area though. I started hunt on that property in 1979 until 1986, seeing very few Deer or Rabbits. I only harvested four Deer there during those years, and very few other Hunters used that area. The Landowner passed away in 1986, and the area was closed for reclamation for a few years, and the last time I hunted there was 1990 M/L Deer Season. I haven't hunted that property since 1990 and started Deer Hunting in Kentucky & Colorado. Once, around 1992, I just drove by just to see what was going on with the property I once hunted, and saw several homes there (Trailers mostly) and even a Workshop. When, I first secured permission to hunt on that property, the owner told me he should have left it as farm land and just leased it out to other Farmers instead of to that Coal Company, only to have it destroyed.
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