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Post by swilk on Oct 28, 2015 20:55:15 GMT -5
Would ingestion of a natural metal disqualify them? I know mercury will kill you but its still a natural thing....
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 28, 2015 21:12:31 GMT -5
NO
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Post by duff on Oct 28, 2015 21:15:44 GMT -5
Organic in terms of labeled food is different than the actual term itself. You guys are nitpicking the details.
Wild hunted or grown food can't be certified organic because no one is filling out the paperwork to do it.
Second, hard to control what a wild critter is exposed to or feeds upon.
However wild game is by real terms organic, just can't be sold as such. Free ranged, not forced into eating specific diets or medicated etc...
The term is broadly used except farmers markets, grocery stores and Swilks favorite frufru cafe :-)
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 28, 2015 21:32:26 GMT -5
No
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Post by clovein123 on Oct 28, 2015 22:47:45 GMT -5
What about beaver meat? I've heard numerous trappers say it's great. I just can't bring myself to try it but would think it's probably the cleanest meat available. There are others that eat raccoon and muskrats but it would take a SHTF situation to get me to start eating those critters.
All in all to me it comes down to two things. One, you have to die of something and if cancer gets me so be it. At least I had some great burgers from Logan's and Cheese Burger-n-Paradise while I was here. Two and most importantly, trusting the Good Lord to call me home and knowing where my salvation lies.
Well that's my two cents, now off to dispatch the neighborhood opossum aka cat food thief that just fell for the old bacon fat in the cage trap routine.
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Post by throbak on Oct 29, 2015 7:07:43 GMT -5
and Wild caught fish are still being exploited to the point of a noticible problem by Kentucky commercial fishermen with no advisories whatsoever
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Post by chubwub on Oct 29, 2015 11:20:54 GMT -5
I'm as eco friendly as possible. All my animals are killed with bullets from reclaimed metals.
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 29, 2015 11:54:34 GMT -5
muscrat is encredibly tender, beaver cooked like a pot roast is great. only time i ate coon it was made like chicken salad...and i went back for seconds.
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 29, 2015 11:55:34 GMT -5
wont touch a greasy possum
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 29, 2015 12:05:13 GMT -5
i had fallow deer at the weekend now i feel real bad. real bad there was not enough left for second helpings, yum yum, lol hehehehheheheh
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Post by featherduster on Oct 29, 2015 12:24:16 GMT -5
nope. never bought into all the media bs. somethings gonna get us all eventually. gonna enjoy my time on earth, not run from eggs and meat and the color purple or whatever crap they come up with next. dont do anything to excess, stay active, live long. my .02 All the above, my only concerns regarding deer meat is will I get a deer this year.
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Post by swilk on Oct 29, 2015 12:34:52 GMT -5
muscrat is encredibly tender, beaver cooked like a pot roast is great. only time i ate coon it was made like chicken salad...and i went back for seconds. Im on the opposite end of the :what will he eat" spectrum. I dont venture out of my comfort zone very often.
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 29, 2015 13:23:58 GMT -5
What about beaver meat? I've heard numerous trappers say it's great. I just can't bring myself to try it but would think it's probably the cleanest meat available. There are others that eat raccoon and muskrats but it would take a SHTF situation to get me to start eating those critters. All in all to me it comes down to two things. One, you have to die of something and if cancer gets me so be it. At least I had some great burgers from Logan's and Cheese Burger-n-Paradise while I was here. Two and most importantly, trusting the Good Lord to call me home and knowing where my salvation lies. Well that's my two cents, now off to dispatch the neighborhood opossum aka cat food thief that just fell for the old bacon fat in the cage trap routine. Didn't like beaver but I'll eat coon and ground hog especially younger ones I've eaten all kinds of critters no opossum or crow
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Post by subzero350 on Oct 29, 2015 13:56:25 GMT -5
I think I would have to look at the metrics of the study being done before I could draw any conclusions for myself about this topic. Most of my ancestors lived to very old ages consuming red and other meats daily and never got cancer or any other illness from doing so.
That being said, I've looked at the metrics of a few studies that "show something is cancer-causing or generally bad for you" and what they have to do in those studies to come to that conclusion would make your head pop off your shoulders. Many times, they are force-feeding or injecting the animal test subject with thousands of times the normal daily intake of the substance being tested in order to get cancer or some other illness to occur.
Now that's not saying there aren't things being put into food that are bad for you. Many artificial (and even some so-called "natural") preservatives are indeed bad for your health. As with anything else, there is a political element at work here too (think industry lobbyists) - so keep that in mind.
Furthermore, not all "natural" foods are healthy for all humans to consume. People are created differently. My wife is allergic to soybean oil. The farm lobby has managed to get products made from soybean oil put into every processed food imaginable (including products used to help prepare food such as vegetable oil and margarine). It can be quite a challenge eating out at a restaurant and finding prepared foods she can eat that don't contain soy proteins, soybean oil, or any other soy derived product. Since soybeans produce significantly more protein per acre than most other uses of land, it is easy to see why the farm lobby pushes for its use in everything and anything possible. And that's probably why we AREN'T seeing massive amounts of health studies being done on soybean products...
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Post by windingwinds on Oct 29, 2015 14:16:04 GMT -5
Deer meat is better than meat available at stores. Nothing wrong with limiting amount of meat you ingest but I would not put venison in the same catagory as McDonald's burgers. I would think the preservatives present in most foods are more harmful than deer meat. Local source foods are your best bet and you can't get more local than a deer. Nothing wrong with growing your own food either, we always try to have a garden because we can control what goes on it. You can label it whatever, but the trend towards organic (certified or not)and or local food is a real one.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 29, 2015 19:18:30 GMT -5
I don't watch much media what's the point about being worried about stuff that isn't worth worrying about Processed meats through some of the most extensive studies in the food/medical field have been proven to be cancer causing. Anytime you see a scientific study that "proves" anything disregard the conclusion as junk science. Correlations are observed in scientific studies. If anything is "proven" it becomes a scientific law...and there aren't very many scientific laws. Evolution is still a theory.
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Post by firstwd on Oct 29, 2015 19:23:43 GMT -5
It has very little to do with the meat and everything to do with the processed part.
Anything that is one step away from a root or a mother is far better than anything the all manufacturers pump out.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 29, 2015 19:24:46 GMT -5
I'm as eco friendly as possible. All my animals are killed with bullets from reclaimed metals. So you are saying your food dies from an acute dose of lead poisoning.
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Post by chubwub on Oct 29, 2015 19:30:18 GMT -5
I'm as eco friendly as possible. All my animals are killed with bullets from reclaimed metals. So you are saying your food dies from an acute dose of lead poisoning. Sometimes. It happens with steel too, which confuses me because the box is clearly labeled non-toxic.
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Post by chubwub on Oct 29, 2015 19:37:47 GMT -5
If anyone cares, the chance of getting butt cancer is about 4% for the general population. Early screening and detection reduce a lot of cases. Survival is about 65%. An 18% increase of risk of 4% is .0072 or .72% increase in risk.
I'll take my chances....
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