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Post by jjas on Feb 6, 2015 9:20:31 GMT -5
According to the series of articles that the IndyStar published there are approximately 382 high fence hunting areas and farms in the state of Indiana.
Does anyone know if that number is realistic and how many of these places allow hunting?
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Post by jjas on Feb 6, 2015 10:05:40 GMT -5
Metamorahunter
Does anyone know if these breeding operations are all high fence too?
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 6, 2015 11:35:11 GMT -5
Not aware of any, but hey I don't get out much.
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Post by hunterman on Feb 6, 2015 11:39:46 GMT -5
Thats how many deer farms there are. There are only 4 actually offering hunts.
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 6, 2015 12:01:12 GMT -5
I know of two here locally that have game breeder's license's, but they only raise deer. One is more like a petting zoo as they have couple festival's a year. The other used to sell game bird's and had a dozen or so deer fenced in that he sold his button buck's annually to a outfit in Ill. I'd say the majority are small game bredder's who either sell the deer or do for private enjoyment.
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Post by jjas on Feb 6, 2015 12:08:02 GMT -5
I know of two here locally that have game breeder's license's, but they only raise deer. One is more like a petting zoo as they have couple festival's a year. The other used to sell game bird's and had a dozen or so deer fenced in that he sold his button buck's annually to a outfit in Ill. I'd say the majority are small game bredder's who either sell the deer or do for private enjoyment. My understanding is that many of these places sell venison, semen, and urine. It's also been brought to my attention that these farms are watched over by the Board of Animal Health. Does anyone know if there has ever been a case of CWD on these farms?
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 6, 2015 12:12:57 GMT -5
I know of two here locally that have game breeder's license's, but they only raise deer. One is more like a petting zoo as they have couple festival's a year. The other used to sell game bird's and had a dozen or so deer fenced in that he sold his button buck's annually to a outfit in Ill. I'd say the majority are small game bredder's who either sell the deer or do for private enjoyment. My understanding is that many of these places sell venison, semen, and urine. It's also been brought to my attention that these farms are watched over by the Board of Animal Health. Does anyone know if there has ever been a case of CWD on these farms? No CWD yet... A couple of the shooting pens had bovine TB which is very bad stuff too..
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Post by greghopper on Feb 6, 2015 12:24:29 GMT -5
At this point I veture to say there are more Deer/elk leaving this state vs coming in.....That may soon change once there is a Greater Demand
BTW...... I Believe a few of these pens have excotics also!!
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Post by jjas on Feb 6, 2015 14:43:53 GMT -5
My understanding is that many of these places sell venison, semen, and urine. It's also been brought to my attention that these farms are watched over by the Board of Animal Health. Does anyone know if there has ever been a case of CWD on these farms? No CWD yet... A couple of the shooting pens had bovine TB which is very bad stuff too.. If the shooting preserves are deemed legal, what governmental agency will be charged with watching over them as apparently the IDNR will not?
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 6, 2015 14:52:07 GMT -5
No CWD yet... A couple of the shooting pens had bovine TB which is very bad stuff too.. If the shooting preserves are deemed legal, what governmental agency will be charged with watching over them as apparently the IDNR will not? Well since it is a farm the USDA,BOHA, and Indiana board of health as well as all other entities who regulate "FARMS" as it is on all farms I would think . Also there is/has been Bovine TB on many cattle farms here for decades and that is actually where TB originally comes from and gets into wild and tame deer herds across the country. www.wthr.com/story/15483355/ind-euthanizes-15-cattle-with-bovine-tuberculosis
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Post by greghopper on Feb 6, 2015 16:24:09 GMT -5
Dept of Ag would be my guess....
Now they have to figure out how to control the NEW business, and, how to define "humane slaughter" to the public.
Ever see someone pay to shoot farm animals in a PEN??
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 6, 2015 17:14:13 GMT -5
Dept of Ag would be my guess.... Now they have to figure out how to control the NEW business, and, how to define "humane slaughter" to the public. Ever see someone pay to shoot farm animals in a PEN?? Yip farmers do it all the time to put hogs and beef in the freezer! Its how they kill em a buddy and I put a hog in the freezer about a month ago he simply shot it in the head in the pen!! We hung it skinned it and butchered it .People who do not live in the country on farms have no clue as to how many do it these days .Its a lost aspect in todays urban and city based society !A guy will go pic hog or buy a cow take it home pop it or simply do it there .Then skin it and the work begins and money changes hands many times between those country folks . Been happening this way for thousands of years .Too much feel good about where and how our meat gets to us .Its a strange world we live in today eat meat people deny ,ignore or cover up how it all gets there . FYI that fresh sausage and ribs were great .
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Post by greghopper on Feb 6, 2015 17:27:16 GMT -5
Dept of Ag would be my guess.... Now they have to figure out how to control the NEW business, and, how to define "humane slaughter" to the public. Ever see someone pay to shoot farm animals in a PEN?? Yip farmers do it all the time to put hogs and beef in the freezer! Its how they kill em a buddy and I put a hog in the freezer about a month ago he simply shot it in the head in the pen!! We hung it skinned it and butchered it .People whop do not live in the country on farms have no clue as to how many do it .Its a lost aspect in todays urban and city based society ! Been happening this way for thousands of years .Too much feel good about where and how our meat gets to us .Its a strange world we live in today eat meat people deny ,ignore or cover up how it all gets there . FYI that fresh sausage and ribs were great . What is it that farmers do all the time.... Pay to shoot a farm animal??? Really??? SMH FYI..... You can legally shoot your own farm animals!! Like I said ever see someone pay to shoot a farm animal??
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 6, 2015 20:24:12 GMT -5
Yip farmers do it all the time to put hogs and beef in the freezer! Its how they kill em a buddy and I put a hog in the freezer about a month ago he simply shot it in the head in the pen!! We hung it skinned it and butchered it .People whop do not live in the country on farms have no clue as to how many do it .Its a lost aspect in todays urban and city based society ! Been happening this way for thousands of years .Too much feel good about where and how our meat gets to us .Its a strange world we live in today eat meat people deny ,ignore or cover up how it all gets there . FYI that fresh sausage and ribs were great . What is it that farmers do all the time.... Pay to shoot a farm animal??? Really??? SMH FYI..... You can legally shoot your own farm animals!! Like I said ever see someone pay to shoot a farm animal?? I just said yes !! People buy them all the time and kill them from a farmer and kill / shoot them , butcher them right there no different ! Its just semantics is all.!!!Where do you think my buddy got his hogs he bought them to shoot them and eat them from a farmer.He killed the last one right in his pen and loaded it happens all the time. The why is exactly the same to kill it and eat it you don't turn em loose before you kill em .LOL SMH .
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Post by hunterman on Feb 6, 2015 20:40:30 GMT -5
I guess some people still think all meat is made by walmart. SMH
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Post by greghopper on Feb 6, 2015 20:49:39 GMT -5
What is it that farmers do all the time.... Pay to shoot a farm animal??? Really??? SMH FYI..... You can legally shoot your own farm animals!! Like I said ever see someone pay to shoot a farm animal?? I just said yes !! People by them all the time and kill them from a farmer and kill / shoot them and butcher them no different ! Its just semantics is all.!!!Where do you think my buddy got his hogs he bought them to shoot them and eat them from a farmer.He killed the last one right in his pen and loaded it happens all the time city slicker . The why is exactly the same to kill it and eat it you don't turn em loose before you kill em .LOL SMH . Yes to what??? Yes folks pay to shoot farm animals the don't own??? LMAO As I said before (for the slow readers) if you own a animal law allows you to shoot !! Ever see someone pay to shoot a farm animal they don't own??? Btw paying to shoot a farm animal with bow and arrow is not legal also!!! Some can't see the Forrest for the trees... LMAO...SMH
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Post by throbak on Feb 6, 2015 20:51:59 GMT -5
Farmers dont raisee animals to turn loose and then hunt them down and kill them to even suggest its the same is an insult to my intelligence if that the case deer would be sold by the lb not the inch
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Post by greghopper on Feb 6, 2015 20:55:44 GMT -5
Farmers dont raisee animals to turn loose and then hunt them down and kill them to even suggest its the same is an insult to my intelligence if that the case deer would be sold by the lb not the inch Exactly ..... Glad to see a intelligent post... Thanks
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 6, 2015 22:30:22 GMT -5
Farmers dont raisee animals to turn loose and then hunt them down and kill them to even suggest its the same is an insult to my intelligence if that the case deer would be sold by the lb not the inch Then add to that intelligence and do your research .deer are sold by the pound as well .There is a huge deer meat market .You guys have very little figured out about farming and deer .It is a huge industry and antlers and pen hunts are only a very small part of that .FYI legal farm raised deer loin can sell for as much as $25.00 to $40.00 per pound in butcher shops and fine dining restaurants. FYI they raise and sell whitetail for this as well as many other game animals .You guys are so stuck on pen hunting you need to do a bit of reading on the subject . ONLY wild deer meat and products can not be sold. www.elkusa.com/Whitetail_venison.html
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 6, 2015 22:31:00 GMT -5
Farmers dont raisee animals to turn loose and then hunt them down and kill them to even suggest its the same is an insult to my intelligence if that the case deer would be sold by the lb not the inch Exactly ..... Glad to see a intelligent post... Thanks Dead wrong !!you are right one thing and some here are totally blind as well as clueless to the whole issue at hand. Your just mad because they hunt them in pens its so sad it don't even effect you at all .Your anger and jealousy are eating you up. The one thing I do see is liberal thinking antis trying to stop free market enterprise over some holier than thou unfounded feelings .You and other so called hunters have now aligned with Peta and the Humane society that testified against both bills in the state legislature. It was on the news just two days ago. It is huge money and it will win over whiners everyday in this state. As stated its just another farm /ag business and don't effect me or you at all. I am fully free business , Republican and conservative and this sounds like what we now have in Washington at this time . When they come after us remember you stood with them and opened that door and shook their hand and invited them in and stood beside them.
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