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Post by firstwd on Sept 3, 2014 21:32:47 GMT -5
I have seen a few blips of people already complaining about the possibility of future changes to the hunter orange requirements. Personally, I think Indiana's requirements are a bit lacking. I see no reason our requirements should not be like Kentucky's during firearms seasons and require at least a vest and a hat of solid hunter orange. State Park hunts are that way now I believe.
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Post by span870 on Sept 3, 2014 21:50:17 GMT -5
I don't have an opinion one way or another. I don't think it makes a difference as far as deer. I think as long as you sit still the deer don't pay no attention. I'd like them to okay orange camo though.
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Post by drs on Sept 4, 2014 4:28:51 GMT -5
During rifle season, I would never venture out in the woods without wearing a Hunter Orange vest/jacket.
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Post by 76chevy on Sept 4, 2014 5:23:16 GMT -5
I would say we need some more, a vest or coat and hat would be good.
Our park hunts require this now.
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 4, 2014 6:18:12 GMT -5
I would have no issue with being required to wear more blaze orange. I wear a blaze orange vest and hat most times anyway. The Deer don't see it anyway so I don't see why it would be a problem.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 4, 2014 6:25:12 GMT -5
I'm OK with it the way it is now; but if they changed to a vest and hat it wouldn't bother me either.
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Post by GS1 on Sept 4, 2014 6:30:27 GMT -5
I was in Alabama a few years ago and you were not required to wear orange as long as you were elevated 12'+
I would like to see that in Indiana, at least on private ground, but know it will never happen.
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Post by michaeladkins on Sept 4, 2014 6:46:19 GMT -5
I was in Alabama a few years ago and you were not required to wear orange as long as you were elevated 12'+ I would like to see that in Indiana, at least on private ground, but know it will never happen. Were you required to wear it on your way to the stand? |
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Post by GS1 on Sept 4, 2014 7:09:19 GMT -5
Yes. Anytime you were not in the stand and until you were at least 12' high.
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Post by stevein on Sept 4, 2014 8:20:46 GMT -5
I voted no opinion.
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I believe it should remain the same on private ground you have permission to hunt.
No orange required in 12'+ treestands on private property
Minimum orange hat and at least 1 square foot of orange front and back on public ground.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 4, 2014 8:27:07 GMT -5
I have worn the HO vest and cap on numerous hunts and it never seemed to bother the deer. I do know a hunters is a LOT more visible to other hunters when wearing a HO vest and cap rather than just a cap.
I recall once where i wore a HO sock cap over top of my camo ball cap. When I got back to my trick someone said where is your HO. I took off my cap and the sock cap was gone. Retracing my steps I found it hanging on a big briar. The briar snatched it off my head on the way out. A cap is really not much in the way of visibility.
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Post by swilk on Sept 4, 2014 8:35:43 GMT -5
This is one of those situations where its difficult for one size to fit all ..... public ground is vastly different from most private ground.
Elevated vs on the ground. Public vs private. Thick terrain vs more open terrain.
Lots of variables .... do we make the law based on the worst case scenario or do we make it based on something else and hope we hunters use some common sense and put on more orange when the circumstances call for it?
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 4, 2014 10:10:45 GMT -5
my Dad hunted HNF starting in the late 60's, early 70s....always wore orange from head to toe (bibs,coat and hat....some real looneys down there in the early days). He brought venison home every year.
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Post by jjas on Sept 4, 2014 10:27:50 GMT -5
When just a cap satisfies the requirement, it's pretty easy to side step that reg. I've seen hunters not wear it @ all or maybe just wear it when walking in/out.
A vest requirement wouldn't be the end of the world.
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Post by steve46511 on Sept 4, 2014 10:50:38 GMT -5
Personally, I would find it fairly expected that in the end, should standard HPR rounds be legalized, MORE hunter orange garments or square inches will follow immediately or shortly after. While I have no first hand knowledge of what the majority of states with legal HPR seasons require in hunter orange garments but from photos Ive seen of hunters in at least some of these states it appears that at least some require more than only a hat. Other state regulations on such is reviewed in such decisions, I would think anyway and IN following other state's examples and if there is a difference of opinion, I've also no doubt they will lean towards the safer of all options. Just my guesstimation.
As far as it being suggested that HO not be required while in elevated stands, I'll have to say I would be against that.
One, while deer DO look up, elevated hunter's wearing orange is even less within the normal view of whitetail on any given day. With HO wearers being successful at eye level removing the mandatory use of such in a stand is not justifiable as "needed" as far as hunting.
Two, the wearing of HO is not only a safety issue allowing other hunters to see where you are but also, IMO, HO is a very useful tool if any hunter has any health issues arise or gets hung up climbing up or down, while stand hunting and calls for emergency assistance. In some cases very few know EXACTLY where a hunter in their family is at any given point. An emergency team rushing out to a distress call from a hunter in a stand has a MUCH greater chance of finding him or her as soon as possible, possibly saving the hunter's life, being able to spot them at far greater distances.
Within the ease of finding hunters wearing HO is also the subject of the CO doing standard license and hunting equipment checks. If the CO is coming out, I want him to find me ASAP and get it done, over and him out of the hunting area vs having him walk all over the woods looking FOR me. CO's are VERY short on time, it seems, during deer season. I'd much prefer he spends as little time on legal hunters and has more time left to find the violators that ALSO would be easier to find wearing HO in the stand.
Even IF HO was no longer required in a stand, should I ever use an elevated stand again, I'll be wearing HO. Even while bowhunting I have a HO hat on a limb next to me if it's too warm to wear it and DO wear it to and from my truck. If I get into trouble, I want them to find me ........NOW! Even if about to loose consciousness walking in or out and feel they are going to go down, it takes but a second to stick the hat on a nearby limb.
Lots may think this is a bit of "over kill" safety wise and think such won't be needed for them.
My only reply to that is that I would bet that any of those unfortunate enough to suffer from any kind of health issue while hunting and required immediate help ALSO thought "it won't happen to me". I also would wager that if they weren't wearing HO at the time, that they wished they were!!
I even carry a HO hat in my over the shoulder "carry everything" bag while squirrel hunting. Stroke, heart attack, whatever that may come........seconds count.
If you hunt alone AT ALL, carry your cell phone and have something HO on you. Pretty cheap insurance IMHO.
Again, IMO, during firearm season the ol HO hat/cap has been sufficient to date but I wouldn't be surprised one bit to see a "square inches" minimum of HO come hand in hand with standard HPR rounds being legalized.
As always, 2 cents only.
God Bless
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Post by 36fan on Sept 4, 2014 11:00:38 GMT -5
I voted "No opinion". I always wear an OH vest during firearms season, and the majority of the time an OH hat, too. The only problem I have with a hat being required is sometimes - when I am in the stand - I will pull my hood up, which covers the hat. If the hat was required, I would not be meeting the requirements.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 4, 2014 11:29:25 GMT -5
I don't think I would want a hat to be required, but I think the required amount should be increased to a point where a hat no longer covers it by itself.
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Post by budd on Sept 4, 2014 17:43:57 GMT -5
Here in Minnesota you must have 50% of your body. Have had deer walk up within feet while setting on the ground and not notice it. Would also make it a little harder for trespassers to sneak onto property's.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Sept 5, 2014 7:18:46 GMT -5
Leave it as is & use the common sense to add more HO when hunting thicker cover.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 5, 2014 8:33:39 GMT -5
I voted need more but I've always found it ridiculous that once up a tree a hunter needs any...the issue is safety of confusion between deer and hunters...deer aren't in trees. I'd say any stand over 12 foot orange isn't required once up, however if feet are on the ground I am all for more orange being needed. it is very easy to roll up an orange hat to truly be very little orange present and hard to be seen if at all from the front of a hunter.
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