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Post by boonechaser on Sept 3, 2014 7:19:26 GMT -5
Pulled trail cam card's y'day. (I have mine on mineral lick site's.) Interesting that over a 7 day period I had 1 small buck pic, rest does and fawns. Prior to last week I was getting as many buck's as doe pic's. This tell's me that buck's antler growing phase has ended and they are changing feeding pattern's somewhat to acorn's, maturing corn , late alfalfa. Moved cam's to alfalfa field and a corn field edge now. Also will be closing my mineral sites this weekend as season approaches.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 3, 2014 7:51:01 GMT -5
I noticed on my last card pull a couple of days ago that I was getting a lot more nighttime pictures of any decent bucks - very few in full daylight. Seems a little early for them to be going nocturnal though, I think the recent heat wave may have more to do with it.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 3, 2014 7:59:49 GMT -5
Wouldn't doubt the temps are the main reason.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 8:28:16 GMT -5
That is interesting. You are blessed to have such a diverse habitat to pattern different food sources.
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 3, 2014 9:12:32 GMT -5
My two major lick's are located on edge of imperial whitetail clover plot's. Which the bucks don't seem to be using right now either. I have noticed several oak tree's dropping acorn's, which I suspect is a major reason and I have also noticed my corn plot is getting hit hard right now as well. Still am seeing lot's of bucks in alfalfa field's also. Got over an inch of rain y'day and am hoping EHD stays in check this year.
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Post by 76chevy on Sept 4, 2014 5:29:17 GMT -5
same thing here the big boys just vanished off the mineral licks.... Pulled trail cam card's y'day. (I have mine on mineral lick site's.) Interesting that over a 7 day period I had 1 small buck pic, rest does and fawns. Prior to last week I was getting as many buck's as doe pic's. This tell's me that buck's antler growing phase has ended and they are changing feeding pattern's somewhat to acorn's, maturing corn , late alfalfa. Moved cam's to alfalfa field and a corn field edge now. Also will be closing my mineral sites this weekend as season approaches.
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 4, 2014 10:52:38 GMT -5
Suspect weather has something to do with as well, (Hot) more night time movement and it's that time of year when buck's are beginning to seperate from bachlor group's. (Espically mature buck's).
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Post by drs on Sept 4, 2014 11:12:24 GMT -5
Suspect weather has something to do with as well, (Hot) more night time movement and it's that time of year when buck's are beginning to seperate from bachlor group's. (Espically mature buck's). ^^^^^^.......What is written above. Heard that the midwestern states are in for a warmer than normal fall & winter this year. Precipitation might also be on the light side. Guess we'll just have to wait & see if this is correct.
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Post by henson59 on Sept 4, 2014 13:27:48 GMT -5
Suspect weather has something to do with as well, (Hot) more night time movement and it's that time of year when buck's are beginning to seperate from bachlor group's. (Espically mature buck's). ^^^^^^.......What is written above. Heard that the midwestern states are in for a warmer than normal fall & winter this year. Precipitation might also be on the light side. Guess we'll just have to wait & see if this is correct. I think it all depends on where you get your info from. Everything I am reading is saying we are in for a winter just like last year with more snow possible.
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 4, 2014 13:50:15 GMT -5
Hope we continue to keep getting rainfall as I don't want to see EHD rear it's ugly head again. I have been seeing an alarming amount of buzzard sightings lately on trips to and from work , although I have yet to hear of any dead deer being found.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 4, 2014 16:04:35 GMT -5
Buzzards are actually close to their normal migration time, no need to worry yet.
I have pictures of one the larger bucks in the area chasing two of the younger ones.
Now if I can just figure out what those two guys were doing before I got them on camera. .....
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 6, 2014 19:34:58 GMT -5
Video taped some tonight on my alfalfa field. 30 or so deer, 10 bucks and I believe all bucks but a couple yearlings have shed velvet. The biggest a 130 class 10 still had blood stains but was clean of velvet. Best thing I ever did was plant the alfalfa. It is a magnet pretty much year round.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 8, 2014 8:17:32 GMT -5
Just a public service announcement (always wanted to say that). Make sure you guys do everything in your power to close of the mineral sites LEGALLY! It isn't worth risking the loss of hunting rights over, sucks and I disagree with Indiana's stance on mineral sites (although most have salt sites not really mineral sites) but it is what it is. Just remember stopping the applying of new minerals isn't enough the way the law is written.
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Post by swilk on Sept 8, 2014 8:38:01 GMT -5
We have hashed over that law and its wording many times .... it is sooooo poorly written that opinion comes into play more than the actual law.
No set distance. No mention if your neighboring property owner is the one baiting. No definition of "contaminated soil" (which could literally be acres and acres depending on water runoff and how thoroughly they wanted to test it).
Horribly written law.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 8, 2014 8:41:34 GMT -5
We have hashed over that law and its wording many times .... it is sooooo poorly written that opinion comes into play more than the actual law. No set distance. No mention if your neighboring property owner is the one baiting. No definition of "contaminated soil" (which could literally be acres and acres depending on water runoff and how thoroughly they wanted to test it). Horribly written law. 100% agree! However, that makes it even more important we do all we can to prove we did all we could to shut the mineral site down. We dig up some and fence it off and we don't hunt over it. Many a convo with local DNR approved this method, I encourage everyone bring it up with local DNR officials as to avoid the risk of something so stupid costing you.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 8, 2014 8:48:28 GMT -5
Yep swilk; that's the main reason I'm for just making legal. Then all of this nonsense just goes away. Hunted KY and we messed around with corn a little some years back and we quit even bothering. Mostly little ones and we did just as well knowing how they moved.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 8, 2014 9:17:50 GMT -5
Yep swilk; that's the main reason I'm for just making legal. Then all of this nonsense just goes away. Hunted KY and we messed around with corn a little some years back and we quit even bothering. Mostly little ones and we did just as well knowing how they moved. I would be good with making it legal too! However, I would want it to be truly mineral sites not just salt piles in essence that is just baiting. Like 40% salt or less products or something...opens up door to baiting if not. However, I personally would never bait so wouldn't affect my hunting style.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 8, 2014 9:21:15 GMT -5
Another option is just not hunt near it. This is also gonna depend on topography, but even most small properties you can dedicate a small corner to a mineral site and just not hunt in the vicinity of it. I have a 25 acre spot where it is easy to avoid this corner while hunting.
I have another, where there's only about 8-10 acres of woods, and all flat (except for a couple sinkholes). You can pretty well see all the way through the property when the leaves are down. I just don't put any minerals out in this spot.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 8, 2014 9:25:23 GMT -5
Yep swilk; that's the main reason I'm for just making legal. Then all of this nonsense just goes away. Hunted KY and we messed around with corn a little some years back and we quit even bothering. Mostly little ones and we did just as well knowing how they moved. I would be good with making it legal too! However, I would want it to be truly mineral sites not just salt piles in essence that is just baiting. Like 40% salt or less products or something...opens up door to baiting if not. However, I personally would never bait so wouldn't affect my hunting style. I would think that would require some sort of sampling and analysis to determine the percentages. Who would want to have to sample their mineral sites to determine if they were legal? Also, one sample could be 40%, 6 inches away it could be 10%, 6 inches the other way 80%, etc. IMO, either needs to be legalized altogether, or left alone. Pretty much all the mineral attractants I see on the shelves / stock floor have salt attractants in them.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 8, 2014 9:37:25 GMT -5
Another option is just not hunt near it. This is also gonna depend on topography, but even most small properties you can dedicate a small corner to a mineral site and just not hunt in the vicinity of it. I have a 25 acre spot where it is easy to avoid this corner while hunting. I have another, where there's only about 8-10 acres of woods, and all flat (except for a couple sinkholes). You can pretty well see all the way through the property when the leaves are down. I just don't put any minerals out in this spot. Proximity does not exempt you from the law, every DNR officer I'm in touch with would not let this fly. I would strongly encourage discussions with our local officers. 25 acres isn't very big and I'd hate to have the "debate" with an officer claiming the "I don't hunt near it" claim. I have no reason to not believe you, but he or she would have no proof of such a claim but would have proof of an active site on your property which you admit you know about.
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