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Post by tenring on Jan 2, 2014 11:33:47 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jan 2, 2014 12:52:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the link.....
Like the way things are? Don't like them? Have a few ideas of your own? Post 'em up.
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Post by drs on Jan 3, 2014 6:40:04 GMT -5
I read through the website. I didn't know of any 28 gauge slug load existed today???
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 3, 2014 9:14:45 GMT -5
I read through the website. I didn't know of any 28 gauge slug load existed today??? It exists but I don't think it was designed for deer.. It says "small game" here.. www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/3-0315213I was against the ,410 being allowed for deer but I'm guessing since they OKed that and skipped over the 28 they are now going back to include it... Or maybe some DNR guy has a 28 bird gun he wants to use for deer.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 3, 2014 9:21:09 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Jan 3, 2014 9:30:31 GMT -5
273gr slug going 1450 at the muzzle .... 1275ft lbs.
Strictly by the numbers is looks as capable as the .44 magnum. At least for close range. I would imagine the ballistics are similar to a flying cinder block .....
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 3, 2014 9:48:42 GMT -5
273gr slug going 1450 at the muzzle .... 1275ft lbs. Strictly by the numbers is looks as capable as the .44 magnum. At least for close range. I would imagine the ballistics are similar to a flying cinder block ..... " Flying Cinder block"? That good, eh?
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Post by swilk on Jan 3, 2014 9:56:41 GMT -5
cinder blocks are deadly .... problem is they are hard to throw very far.
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Post by drs on Jan 3, 2014 10:08:56 GMT -5
Brenneke seems to have convinced this outdoor writer that the 28 slug is deer capable.. I did a little research on the 28 gauge slug loading. It seems that both Remington & Peters offered 28 gauge slug loads up until the early 1950s. Frank C. Barns author of Cartridges Of The World said the 28 and even the .410 slug (Both foster type slugs) are inadequate for Deer.
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Post by jjas on Jan 3, 2014 10:30:07 GMT -5
Several years back there were a few people on a slug hunting forum that were talking about 28 gauge slugs. They had the idea that since a 28 gauge barrel is .550 they figured you could load a .45 caliber muzzleloader bullet in a thin sabot with little trouble and get past some of the release issues thicker sabots sometimes have. I would imagine you could get a 200 grain muzzleloader bullet moving pretty well out of a 28.
For Indiana I couldn't see the point. We already can use the .44 magnum, but in other "slug only" states maybe there would be some interest.
There are 28 gauge pumps and semi-autos out there, and making a rifled barrel wouldn't be a big deal. Years ago, no one thought much of the 20 gauge for use on deer (and that sure has changed), so I guess you never know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 11:20:09 GMT -5
a 410 is way underpowered for deer. yes people use them and have klled deer with them but they shouldnt be allowed in my opinion. a 22 or 17hmr is a better choice than a 410. people have been using them for years to take deer with, although illegally they work.
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Post by drs on Jan 3, 2014 11:33:26 GMT -5
a 410 is way underpowered for deer. yes people use them and have klled deer with them but they shouldnt be allowed in my opinion. a 22 or 17hmr is a better choice than a 410. people have been using them for years to take deer with, although illegally they work. I know a Deer Hunter down here in Central Kentucky, that harvested his very first Buck with a factory loaded .218 Bee used in his Winchester Model 43 Rifle. Range was close < 75 yards and was a head shot, but the .218 Bee or anything in that class is NOT an adequate Deer Cartridge, as is the .410 gauge slug.
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Post by deadeer on Jan 3, 2014 12:53:11 GMT -5
Had heard from deceased kin folk in Kentucky that a 22mag in the heart-lungs works very well. My god kids have killed several with 410 slugs when held to archery type range and angles. Now they have graduated to 44mag and my 357max downloaded a little and are very good shooters. We have slipped in some full power loads and they DID know the difference. All comes down to shot placement. No brainer.
Jay
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Post by swilk on Jan 3, 2014 13:03:32 GMT -5
Some guys could kill every deer they tired to with a .22 short.
Some guys couldnt kill a deer with a 50bmg.
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Post by deadeer on Jan 3, 2014 14:10:30 GMT -5
Some guys could kill every deer they tired to with a .22 short. Some guys couldnt kill a deer with a 50bmg. I know some of those guys! Jay
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Post by firstwd on Jan 3, 2014 21:38:23 GMT -5
Some guys could kill every deer they tired to with a .22 short. Some guys couldnt kill a deer with a 50bmg. I know some of those guys! Jay Depending on the day, I've felt like both of those guys.....
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Post by swilk on Jan 3, 2014 22:32:12 GMT -5
Me too..... hunt long enough and it'll happen.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 4, 2014 1:33:47 GMT -5
410's are a good gun to introduce youth into the sport. IMO but I would suggest shot's of 30 yards or less.
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 4, 2014 12:09:58 GMT -5
I consider a 410 to be an experts gun. Since this is in the deer forum I'drathersee theyoungster with a 357mag rifle with a proper load
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 9, 2014 17:43:14 GMT -5
I just did mine. I don't care for the log in again for every subject but I guess that helps them count yeas and nays?
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