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Post by jjas on Dec 20, 2012 12:39:38 GMT -5
I understand why people are buying ARs, mags and ammo. I get why people are buying up Hi-cap pistols and the ammo for them.
But I surely don't understand why everyone is buying up bulk .22 lr like there is no tomorrow.
I went to the range early this week, stopped by my lgs to pick up some .22s and while I expected the crowds, there wasn't a brick of .22s in the place.........
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Post by swilk on Dec 20, 2012 12:46:11 GMT -5
With a loaded .22 a man could get or kill just about anything he ever needed if forced to.
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Post by jjas on Dec 20, 2012 12:54:02 GMT -5
With a loaded .22 a man could get or kill just about anything he ever needed if forced to. I get what you're saying but I still didn't forsee a run on .22s. Last time this happened they went from $12.50 a brick to around $19.00 per brick. I hate to see what they'll cost now.........  |
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Post by 45shooter on Dec 21, 2012 9:04:09 GMT -5
This is from Dianne Feinsteins' website. Please note grandfather provision.
A summary of key provisions in the updated bill:
Stops the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of more than 100 specifically-named firearms as well as certain semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
Stops the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;
exempting more than 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting and sporting purposes; and
exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 22, 2012 8:41:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't capitulate just yet. Any ban would have to go through the House of Representatives and that's a no go at the moment. We all need to change our wording when referring to the black rifles. You can't just buy a "assault rifle" across the counter. You need to visit a Class III dealer and spend at least 20 grand. fill out the paperwork, pay the tax and expect a visit from the ATF to own a real "assault" rifle. The black rifles are merely look-a-likes made specifically for the civilian market. There's no way the government would ever buy AR-15 rifles to arm our soldiers. They know this but using the term "assault rifles" tends to be much more scary than "assault rifle look-a-likes" or civilian approved semi-automatic rifles.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 22, 2012 8:49:05 GMT -5
I wouldn't capitulate just yet. Any ban would have to go through the House of Representatives and that's a no go at the moment. We all need to change our wording when referring to the black rifles. You can't just buy a "assault rifle" across the counter. You need to visit a Class III dealer and spend at least 20 grand. fill out the paperwork, pay the tax and expect a visit from the ATF to own a real "assault" rifle. The black rifles are merely look-a-likes made specifically for the civilian market. There's no way the government would ever buy AR-15 rifles to arm our soldiers. They know this but using the term "assault rifles" tends to be much more scary than "assault rifle look-a-likes" or civilian approved semi-automatic rifles. This is 100% correct. I am hoping that we have enough TRUE conservatives in the Republican house that this ban will never fly or enough TRUE conservatives in the Senate to filibuster it. Unfortunately I think we will see some caving in. If you haven't contacted your reps and senators do it now. Forget Lugar as he wont be there. Send it to Joe Donnely.. |
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 22, 2012 9:00:29 GMT -5
Yea the Senators are tripping all over themselves they are in such a hurry to capitulate. Donnelly is a lost cause as he always votes the party lines. Our other illustrious Senator threw us under the bus last go around but promised he would never do it again, only time will tell. The shorter terms in the House keeps them on their toes just a tad more and there's several coming up for reelection in '14 so we may have a chance.
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Post by steiny on Dec 22, 2012 10:13:47 GMT -5
The Conneticut event was trajic, but once things settle down a bit, I feel like this gun ban talk will settle down and not much will be changed. Worst case, maybe some more paperwork to buy, ban high capacity magazines, etc., which is stupid and just trying to show people that they are doing something.
Whatever they do won't affect crimes like this one bit. Criminals don't give a damn about laws.
And I don't see cops and military turning against their own people to confiscate weapons.
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Post by shinglemonkey on Dec 26, 2012 23:54:16 GMT -5
You need to visit a Class III dealer and spend at least 20 grand. fill out the paperwork, pay the tax and expect a visit from the ATF to own a real "assault" rifle. Not really the way it works. I can sell you one of mine with nothing more than us filling out the paper work and sending it to the ATF. No dealers involved. Out of state buys are the only ones that require a dealer. Mac's can be bought for 3k and M16's are running 13k plus right now. Also they are no personal visits from the ATF, and having nfa weapons doesnt mean you give up any rights to searches either. |
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Post by ccdeer1960 on Jan 7, 2013 22:28:13 GMT -5
I was just reading they want to go after pump shotguns too. I dont see it happening.Might reinstate the AWB and stiffer Back ground checks.Also the gun show loophole.
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Post by esshup on Jan 7, 2013 22:48:20 GMT -5
With the price of all ammo climbing and becoming in short supply, it's a whole lot cheaper to practice with a .22lr.
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Post by js2397 on Jul 20, 2013 13:18:53 GMT -5
Ended up buying a new Rock River Arms AR today and got 500 rounds of ammo for $935 from Kiesler firearms in Jeffersonville.
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Post by buhmannwc on Oct 4, 2013 19:35:52 GMT -5
man I'm glad most of this crap didn't happen, now were up for round two!
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Post by moose1am on Oct 19, 2013 0:31:13 GMT -5
Looking to get an AR rifle and wanted some opinions. What is a good solid mid range type rifle? What caliber is best? Ar-15's only come in .223 caliber. If I were you I'd wait and see what happens with all this anti-gun talk as you might buy one only have it taken from you by the Gov. Might be better to buy a Bolt Action or Pump Rifle instead. Just my two cents worth of advice.  Actually the AR15 style semi automatic rifles also coame in a .308 caliber or the NATO 7.62 something mm size as well as the Nato 5.56 mm size. ambushfirearms.com/shop/rifles/ambush-300-blackout.htmlI'm just learning about these AR15 style rifles so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this. But I sure wish someone (anyone) would answer the OP question. Everyone seemed to just skip that and act like AR15 are banned already which is not true. So please lets get a discussion on the various good and bad points of the various AR15 manufacture and models that are out there. I'm also interested in what you all know about these type of hunting rifles. I've been researching the different types of AR 15 our there with the intent to use them to hunt coyotes or maybe even deer in the future. javascript:void(0); Rock River Daniel Defense Remington FHN Colt Bushmaster Ruger just to name a few manufactures |
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Post by BIGHORN on Oct 19, 2013 17:27:49 GMT -5
You forgot a couple, the .338 Spectre and .458 Socom for the AR style platform.
The .458 Socom has been my deer gun for the last 3 years now.
Shawn
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Post by esshup on Oct 21, 2013 0:59:22 GMT -5
I've played with Smith & Wesson, Colt, Armalite, CMMG, Bushmaster and DPMS. I'm not very well versed in them, and I may be completely wrong, but here's my ranking and why.
From bottom of the pile to the top:
CMMG- 2 different uppers on the same lower. .22lr uppers. One will work, the other won't. Jams. Put the "bad" upper on any other mfg lower and it works fine. So, the problem seems to be the lower. I haven't figured out what the problem is.
Armalite, Bushmaster and DPMS all seem to be about the same.
Colt - fit and finish is there, as what you'd expect for a "battle" rifle. Some play between the upper and lower, but that was tightened up with a rubber snubber.
S&W M&P - more like a competition rifle. No slop between upper and lower, shot the same as the Colt, maybe a bit tighter. Trigger was about the same.
If I had to buy one today, it'd be a tossup between the higher grade S&W M&P or the Colt Lightweight LEO only. Hogue pistol grip, collapsible buttstock. I perfer the flattop so I can put optics on it. Top handle puts the sights too high for a good cheekweld for my face.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 21, 2013 14:11:25 GMT -5
You would need an AR-10 lower for a .308, will not work for an AR-15.
I have a 5.56/.223 with a 24" heavy varmint barrel for coyotes and groundhogs, and a .450 Bushmaster upper on backorder for another lower I have. You can hunt pretty much anything in North America with an AR-15 these days.
I prefer to build the lowers myself, then order an upper that suits my liking. This is usually a little cheaper, and you can also pick and choose what parts and brands you want to use. The lowers are easy to assemble with free instructions online, took me about 1 hour the first time I did it.
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Post by buhmannwc on Nov 18, 2013 12:07:38 GMT -5
Check out Dtech uppers . I have a .358/25 WSSM upper from mike, 22 In select match barrel it will shoot three shot groups 1.3 inches at 300 yards with 200 gr hornady sp and 48.2 gr h4895.
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Post by joen on Nov 19, 2013 11:19:01 GMT -5
lately at bass and bucks, walmart,and dunhams I have seen a lot of ARs on sale for 700 and up. a lot less than they were a short time ago.
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Post by INhuntin on Nov 19, 2013 22:32:30 GMT -5
The price of ammo & striped lowers are dropping everyday, NOW is the time to buy one or build one. Building is almost always cheaper than buying outright & it is so easy to do.
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