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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 14, 2012 13:51:07 GMT -5
After staff review this issue was identified as ones that the Division of Fish and Wildlife are interested in pursuing.
Hunter Orange – Add requirement for hunter orange on occupied ground blinds, from ½ an hour before sunrise to ½ an hour after sunset, regardless of species being hunted, for the seasons that deer can be harvested with a firearm, excluding waterfowl blinds. Refer to 312 IAC 9-3-2 for more specifics on the hunter orange requirement.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 14, 2012 15:27:36 GMT -5
As long as the occupants on the inside isn't required to wear hunter orange while hunting inside of the structure.
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Post by trapperdave on Jul 14, 2012 15:28:55 GMT -5
seems common sense to me. strongly support it
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Post by billybobteeth on Jul 14, 2012 16:04:42 GMT -5
Simply another unneeded law to enforce .We were fine for 60 or so years without it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 17:47:45 GMT -5
Yes, and the hunters inside also have to wear it, which is already required. There is no reason not to wear orange during deer season with firearms.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 14, 2012 18:30:20 GMT -5
Yes, and the hunters inside also have to wear it, which is already required. There is no reason not to wear orange during deer season with firearms. Kinda pointless to wear orange on the inside, hence the recommedation of this law. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 18:46:07 GMT -5
Yes, and the hunters inside also have to wear it, which is already required. There is no reason not to wear orange during deer season with firearms. Kinda pointless to wear orange on the inside, hence the recommedation of this law. No, it's not pointless, and also the law today. There are no provision on taking it off, and none needed. Ex. is someone inside needs to pee or take a dump. You think they will take time to put it back on. Doubt it. What's it hurt to have it on inside? Answer is nothing. Besides, the change as presented, doesn't say you can take it off. Only says it has to be added to the outside of the blind--keyword ADD |
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Post by uncleharley on Jul 14, 2012 18:46:54 GMT -5
Why should I have to have orange on my blind when a bowhunter right next to me has no requirement for wearing it. I could support this new reg for hunting on public land but not private land.
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Post by jjas on Jul 14, 2012 18:54:29 GMT -5
This one I can see. If you are in the woods during a firearms season you should wear your orange and if you are in a blind on the ground, the blind should be able to be seen.
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Post by esshup on Jul 14, 2012 21:56:36 GMT -5
Why should I have to have orange on my blind when a bowhunter right next to me has no requirement for wearing it. I could support this new reg for hunting on public land but not private land. But, the bowhunter next to you IS required to wear it if it's during firearms season. In reading the reg., it isn't required during bow only season, same as for a bowhunter. |
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 14, 2012 23:07:15 GMT -5
Kinda pointless to wear orange on the inside, hence the recommedation of this law. No, it's not pointless, and also the law today. There are no provision on taking it off, and none needed. Ex. is someone inside needs to pee or take a dump. You think they will take time to put it back on. Doubt it. What's it hurt to have it on inside? Answer is nothing. Besides, the change as presented, doesn't say you can take it off. Only says it has to be added to the outside of the blind--keyword ADD There is a reason the inside of the blind is blacked out, the orange represents a gray color to the deer, your outline will be more obvious to the deer. Kinda shocked you didn't already know that. Like i said before, while your INSIDE of the blind, not when you leave to pee or poop, but while your INSIDE the blind its pointless to have on. Hence, if it where easily seen, the blind woudn't need orange on it, hence the purpose of this law. That is unless you have super kentuckian powers that enable you to see through the blind, its pointless to have on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 2:49:51 GMT -5
Might be pointless to you, but it is the law that you wear it while your hunting. If you let a deer get close enough to the blind window to see your orange on you, you've waited too long.
The reason it needs to be on the blind is to make the blind visable, not the hunters in it. Reason is so the ground burner doesn't see the blind moving from the hunter inside snoring and reverbing the sides, and he shoots at it. Causing those of us not in the blind to suffer the bad press of a senseless hunting accident.
What is hard to understand is WHY there is objection to it, when it doesn't effect the quality of the hunt, one bit???
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Post by span870 on Jul 15, 2012 5:55:50 GMT -5
Posted by timex on Today at 2:49am
Might be pointless to you, but it is the law that you wear it while your hunting. If you let a deer get close enough to the blind window to see your orange on you, you've waited too long.
The reason it needs to be on the blind is to make the blind visable, not the hunters in it. Reason is so the ground burner doesn't see the blind moving from the hunter inside snoring and reverbing the sides, and he shoots at it. Causing those of us not in the blind to suffer the bad press of a senseless hunting accident.
What is hard to understand is WHY there is objection to it, when it doesn't effect the quality of the hunt, one bit???
I would say because we are tired of un needed regulations. How many hunting " accidents " have occured by idiots shooting into a occupied blind? I can't think of any I have heard about. Yet I hear every year about a bow hunter in some state being shot by some idiot squirrel hunting. Seems to me then that all archers should be required to wear hunter orange. Isn't this really the same as gun control issues in a sense. We don't punish the criminal we punish the law abiding citizen. Someone comits a gun crime we need more gun laws.No Timex it doesn't take away from the hunt by puting orange on the blind but tell me, Why?
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Post by schoolmaster on Jul 15, 2012 8:14:51 GMT -5
I have never had a problem hunting in a ground blind while wearing orange. I plan to get some extra cheap plastic hunting vests and attach them to my portable blinds. The deer will get used to them and movement will spook them before the orange will.
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Post by tenring on Jul 15, 2012 15:16:10 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 15, 2012 15:40:49 GMT -5
This was first suggested a few years back when an Indiana deer hunter was killed sitting inside of a blind...only that was in Michigan. A deer hunter fired at a deer and missed. The slug or bullet hit and killed a hunter inside a blind. The shooter said that they never saw the blind and did not know it was there.
Personally I don't have a problem with it..
In fact I suggested to the DNR that they require hunter orange for turkey hunters that are on the move. Two out of the there turkey hunting accidents last year were from not identifying the target. Hunter orange could very well have prevented these two accidents.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 15, 2012 19:48:02 GMT -5
Woody, your probably right about the turkey incidents. But a man with a weee bit of common sense, knows not to shot something if he isn't a 100% sure what it is.
Should my house be in hunter orange as well, i have 30 acre's of woods 60ft behind my house? I know thats a stretch but thats where its heading these days, easy to blame others for your own ignorance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 19:52:58 GMT -5
Question for Lug -- Do you NOT agree with the requirement to wear HO during dear season?
You know, I guess, that millions of deer have been killed with folks wearing a bunch of HO.
Why is it unreasonable to mark a blind, that conceals the HO required already?
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Post by M4Madness on Jul 15, 2012 20:03:02 GMT -5
But a man with a weee bit of common sense, knows not to shot something if he isn't a 100% sure what it is. I agree 100%. But, as these accidents have proven time and time again, there are many hunters out there that don't even have a wee bit of common sense. |
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 15, 2012 20:29:06 GMT -5
Question for Lug -- Do you NOT agree with the requirement to wear HO during dear season? You know, I guess, that millions of deer have been killed with folks wearing a bunch of HO. Why is it unreasonable to mark a blind, that conceals the HO required already? I think the current law is appropriate. You stand correct, milllions of deer have been harvested wearing HO. Never said otherwise. What i did say however is that its pointless to have on inside the structure. If it actually served its purpose to wear it on the inside of the blind, we wouldn't need additional laws that required to have it on the outside of the blind. Do you not agree?? |
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