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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 10:15:35 GMT -5
Right. I doubt this is going anywhere anyway soon. Seems to be the norm. Take two three years to make a change then study for two three years to see if it stays. Its a broke system when it takes that long to make changes. Can't see anyone being excited about that to much.
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Post by firstwd on Jul 15, 2012 10:25:44 GMT -5
Strongly oppose as suggested.
I don't see any biological reason a September season would harm the herd, I just think the proposed limitations are the negatives.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 15, 2012 15:34:23 GMT -5
OK…My two cents worth…
As bowhunters we have for October 1st until the first Sunday in January statewide. We have from September 15th until January 31st in the Urban Deer Zones.
This includes, for the first time ever, the period between the end of the gun season and the late archery/muzzleloader season that we used to not be able to deer hunt with any hunting tool.
That is a LOT of archery hunting…
I truly believe that what the ISR asked for (and is being pursued by the DNR) is a childish request of a minority of bowhunters that are not wanting to hunt alongside of crossbowers. This is not about more opportunity or deer management. It is strictyly about "we don't want to hunt with THEM".
In every state that has had full crossbow inclusion the bowhunters just went about their business of deer hunting along with the new horizontal archery hunters. It was a non event, or the Shakespearean “Much Ado About Nothing.
No such luck here as this minority seems to want to keep the pot stirred up instead of just going hunting. That is a shame, but I expected nothing less.
Personally I don’t care if these bowhunters have 15 days to have that elite, better than thou, feeling that the horizontal bowhunters are not out there with them. I find it somewhat childish and humorous.
What I don’t want to see is them booting the crossbowers out of the UDZs in the September 15th to October 1 time frame. Data from other states UDZs where crossbows are allowed shows that crossbows are a significant hunting tool in these areas.
I also have questions to the infringement on the youth only deer hunting weekend the weekend before the present early archery season. That weekend is supposed to be about the youth only.
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Post by billybobteeth on Jul 15, 2012 20:46:01 GMT -5
Just an FYI Solohunter is over on Archery talk ing this as could be possible .It reminds me of the 1.0 fights all over again now it will not be long before they garner help from there again.We all know where this is headed if there is a continuance of this with the DNR.
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Post by wjakel on Jul 15, 2012 20:47:42 GMT -5
As a bowhunter this is starting to get ridiculous....we dont need any more selective seasons...
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Post by uga1 on Jul 15, 2012 23:26:00 GMT -5
I fully support this. I travel home every year in september to get an early start on bow season. I have lived in a few different states and I wish all of them had had an early bow season.
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Post by boonechaser on Jul 15, 2012 23:48:38 GMT -5
Oct. 1 st is plenty early enough, plus Urban open's mid SEPT so If a guy's got the itch for some extra hunting then find an area in a Urban zone. Weather is just to hot in Sept and Indiana's deer season is allready long enough.
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 16, 2012 4:25:17 GMT -5
No doubt that is what this is about.
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Post by swilk on Jul 16, 2012 7:06:01 GMT -5
It is understandable, to me, to have a group of folks request to have a season all their own. Childish, antler worshiping, elitists .... whatever petty name a person chooses to call them, doesnt change the fact that it has been requested and the DNR is considering it.
As written I would oppose it. Not because it excludes xbows, because it starts mid-month.
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Post by tynimiller on Jul 16, 2012 7:37:50 GMT -5
Here's my concern concerning a Sept. season. Alot of the bucks (including the larger ones) are still in bacholar groups and a feeding pattern which will make then alot more vunerable. Are some asking for a Sept. season for more opportunity to hunt or just to kill their trophy buck early in Ind. so they'll have more time to kill another trophy buck in another state. If the Sept. season was for "doe" only, would they still want it? Personally, I'd rather see the nice bucks left alone to feed-up and go into the rut in good shape and maybe have a chance to spread some of those gene's during the rut before being killed. Your right to the extent 2, 3 and maybe a few 4 year old bucks "may" be more killable...but the mature bucks the ones 4 years and up (the ones i want passing genes on) are never stupid during the year...they'll use terrain, wind and other bucks/does to their advantage. I'm not saying I'm for it, but I'm also not against it...if you open it just open for all archery equipment. The number of hunters who would actually take a deer in that time frame I feel would be quite small in the grand scheme of things. Voted: against due to the crossbow exclusion.
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Post by lefty on Jul 16, 2012 8:28:21 GMT -5
don't support the addition of a special bow season, but IF enacted, Xbows should be allowed as well.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 16, 2012 9:36:29 GMT -5
Nope!
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Post by elmo on Jul 16, 2012 10:07:12 GMT -5
Hey, I think there should be a special elmo only any weapon season. Have it start the first Monday in January and run to the 30th of September. lol
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 16, 2012 12:41:49 GMT -5
Hey, I think there should be a special elmo only any weapon season. Have it start the first Monday in January and run to the 30th of September. lol No sharing with Old Woody?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 13:27:37 GMT -5
It is understandable, to me, to have a group of folks request to have a season all their own. Childish, antler worshiping, elitists .... whatever petty name a person chooses to call them, doesnt change the fact that it has been requested and the DNR is considering it. As written I would oppose it. Not because it excludes xbows, because it starts mid-month. What about a xbow only season. Sept. 1 to Sept. 15
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Post by swilk on Jul 16, 2012 13:49:01 GMT -5
Doubt that would get much traction ........ but you never know with those antler worshiping, elitist crybaby xbowers. They cry and whine until they get their way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 17:18:42 GMT -5
why is it allways brought up, the antler worshipers fault. if im not mistaken most hunters probally 90% or higher are what could be considered antler worshipers. they like me want to shoot a big buck. thats what makes our day in the woods when it happens. if you need to hunt just for the meet to live then fine, i dont call you out for shooting does that have a 200 inch potential booner in them. but i would be willing to bet that almost all on this site are out to hunt and kill a big buck. so refering to us as antler worshipers or the horn porn is giving us all bad names. its not all about the horns here its about the extra time afield to have a chance at taking an animal. id say most on here would love to shoot a buck that has velvet horns and with an oct. 1st opening date that will probally never happen. this rule just needs to not be predijust to any group of archers and put in effect to allow any archery equipment. the deer herd will not suffer from a september season.
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Post by billybobteeth on Jul 16, 2012 17:38:08 GMT -5
If any bowhunter needs more than 3 months of constant non stop bow season to kill "a" deer they need help not more time or way better hunting ground or maybe even start listening to more seasoned hunters .Because frankly its not that hard to kill "A" deer in Indiana .
Now if its a Trophy buck you may go years let alone months unless you have pleanty of hunting land options and pleanty of time to hunt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 18:24:42 GMT -5
Especially if "A" deer is a button buck. Granted, most if not all DO NOT need 3 months, but we have it. Why not shorten it to ONE day? you'll still have a 50/50 chance of killing that deer. This is about more entertainment. Akin to going out with the wife to watch a movie. Is there multiple choices to see or just one? Another month is one more month of doing what most of us like to do. Now, if you don't like to hunt, the even that one day is too much.
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Post by billybobteeth on Jul 16, 2012 19:27:31 GMT -5
And just like all things there is quality hunting and quantity hunting .
I like good special dates with the wife .Doing it constantly it starts to lose its meaning if it were done every day . So the movies with the wife I go see I don't want them over played an worn out , that are scratched and jump all the time.
Thus its always best at the beginning or the first few times and gets worse as time wears on. So why make the hunting worse for ther hunters in other seasons just because people think that they wdeserve more time in the woods ?
Same with deer hunting ,deer ,and stands in almost every deer hunting state or area in the country . Funny that the I had once scheduled a bow hunt with Eagle lakes outfitters in IL a few years back and they don't start bow hunting till the last week of Oct .And that is how most of the most successful and bigger IL . outfitters hunt as well .
I think they are on to something.
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