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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 14, 2012 13:45:15 GMT -5
This issue was suggested by the public from our first round of Got INput. After staff review these issues were identified as ones that the Division of Fish and Wildlife are interested in pursuing.
Early Archery Season
Establish an early deer archery season from Sept. 15 – 30 for longbows, recurve bows, and compound bows only that meet all current archery equipment requirements as described in 312 IAC 9-3-3.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 13:46:58 GMT -5
That's cool by me.
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Post by daneowner on Jul 14, 2012 14:47:28 GMT -5
Seems kind of silly to me for the Dnr to just allowed crossbow for archery & late archery season and now want us to consider a Sept. season that dis-allow's them. Seems like it will just cause more hard feelings between archery deer hunters.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 14, 2012 15:24:34 GMT -5
I think this would be opening pandoras box by allowing one type of weapon used.
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Post by billybobteeth on Jul 14, 2012 16:07:40 GMT -5
Bow hunters of every type already have over 3 moths state wide to hunt They need not one single day more . They are not the majority hunters of this state .The majority hunters keep getting the short end of the stick and I figure a reckoning is coming in my life time . Its just another license to sell here .Does monetary their greed no know bounds ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 17:32:42 GMT -5
I support the First Sat. of Sept. as opening day for archery hunters (all of them, including xbows, compounds, recurves and longbows, and any other bow you can't think up). The reason, there's no reason NOT to hunt deer in Sept.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 14, 2012 18:32:30 GMT -5
I support the First Sat. of Sept. as opening day for archery hunters (all of them, including xbows, compounds, recurves and longbows, and any other bow you can't think up). The reason, there's no reason NOT to hunt deer in Sept. I believe this thread isnt about starting at the beginning of the month. Unless I'm wrong again...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 18:43:02 GMT -5
I believe this thread isnt about starting at the beginning of the month. Unless I'm wrong again...[/quote] I can read, I posted my comment and then voted strongly opposed to what was offered.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 14, 2012 18:52:42 GMT -5
I thought I was wrong again!
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Post by jjas on Jul 14, 2012 19:01:23 GMT -5
I don't support a "special" season for bowhunting.
Funny thing about this. The folks who were so against xbows and 2.0 in general have said since that there is too much pressure on the deer herd. But now that these same people want a "special" season, the extra pressure is a non-issue.
For many, this is nothing more than a "I didn't get 1.0 passed but I'm gonna try and get my way for 2 weeks in September and keep the evil xbowers from killing "my" deer".
What a crock......
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 19:25:37 GMT -5
jjas, you are correct, I'm surprised and disappointed the DNR would put this one forward. it's "throw the dog a bone" time. But if you pay attention, you'll see those same guys are still wanting the PI gun days, so if this is all they get, then it's not much. Hopefully, the masses that brought an end to PI will see through this and change it or stop it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 20:19:31 GMT -5
There are at least several dozen different states that have a September Bow Season that I know of, there are probably even more states than this. Some states even have September Muzzleloader Seasons, I think Kansas does. Check out the Kansas Deer Season. Kansas has a September Muzzleloader Season from September 17th - 29th. www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Hunting/Applications-and-Fees/Deer Kentucky has a 5 month long Bow Season, that runs from September 1st until January 21st. www.kdfwr.state.ky.us/20122013proposedseasons.aspMissouri opens its statewide Bow Season in mid September. mdc.mo.gov/hunting-trapping/deer-huntingMichigan also has a September Firearm Season. www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10363_10856_10905-240788--,00.html www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/20....le_391227_7.pdfWisconsin has a Statewide September Bow Season. dnr.wi.gov/topic/hunt/dates.html dnr.wi.gov/Georgia has a September Bow Season, and a 2 month long Firearm Season. www.georgiawildlife.com/sites/def....on_su mmary.pdf The South Carolina Deer Season opens in August, and SC has a 5 Buck Limit. www.dnr.sc.gov/regs/pdf/deerprivate.pdfThe North Carolina Deer Season opens in early September www.ncwildlife.org/Hunting/SeasonsLimits/201213DeerSeasons.aspxThe Iowa Deer season opens in mid September. www.iowadnr.gov/Hunting/DeerHunting.aspx Certain areas of Pennsylvania open Bow Season in mid September. www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=576240&mode=2 The Nebraska Bow Season opens in mid September. outdoornebraska.ne.gov/hunting/guides/biggame/deer/BGdeerseasons.aspSouth Dakota opens its Bow Season in mid September. gfp.sd.gov/hunting/big-game/deer/archery.aspx North Dakota opens it's Bow season in August. Check out the North Dakota Bow Season, it runs from August 31st until January 6th. gf.nd.gov/hunting/big-game/deer#archery Montana opens its Bow Season on September 1st. fwp.mt.gov/hunting/seasons/ Ohio opens its bow season in late September. ohiodnr.com/wildlife/dow/regulations/seasons.aspx However, I would like to see all Bows used during Bow Season. The Kentucky Bow Season starts September 1st and last until January. I polled numerous KY Hunters, and almost all of them said they Love Deer Hunting in September. www.kentuckyhunting.net/forums/showthread.php?118097-What-is-your-opinion-on-September-Bow-Hunting-in-Kentucky
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Post by jager on Jul 14, 2012 20:37:38 GMT -5
Lug you are funny! What would make you think that you are wrong? Never mind, you are in a debate with Timex. You are WRONG!
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Post by mrfixit on Jul 14, 2012 20:39:23 GMT -5
Things are so great in Kentucky I don't know how anyone could stand to live anywhere else. In fact I think all us hunters should just pack up and move to Kentucky.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 20:42:55 GMT -5
LOL, All states offer some good hunting and fishing. There are many states much better than Kentucky for hunting and fishing, however I use Kentucky as an example for this thread because Kentucky starts its Bow Season on September 1st. I hunt in several states every year, and I enjoy each state. Things are so great in Kentucky I don't know how anyone could stand to live anywhere else. In fact I think all us hunters should just pack up and move to Kentucky.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 15, 2012 0:01:26 GMT -5
I don't support a "special" season for bowhunting. Funny thing about this. The folks who were so against xbows and 2.0 in general have said since that there is too much pressure on the deer herd. But now that these same people want a "special" season, the extra pressure is a non-issue. For many, this is nothing more than a "I didn't get 1.0 passed but I'm gonna try and get my way for 2 weeks in September and keep the evil xbowers from killing "my" deer". What a crock...... Kinda like realizing the state needs more reduction, so add more hunting tools (weapons), now we supposedly need 30 more days to hunt in sept...But yet the same folks support the OBR. Like the OBR guys all say "aint no way you can kill two bucks a year and kill less bucks!" So let me kill two bucks a year, and keep the season the same length! Wasn't the double dippers harvest about the same as what could be expected for a Sept. harvest? Is that not more opprotunity??? If ya don't wanna kill two bucks, don't. I think it would be a win win deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 2:42:50 GMT -5
Lots of comedienes here, carry on. Ky. has good hunting, so does Indiana. Maybe that's why at least half the hunters want more of it. I think one buck is enough, really. I'll go somewhere else to kill more. I always stuck with Woody on it at least lately in life, but one is plenty.
As for Sept., it's merely archery hunting, which is nothing more than oppurtunity and entertainment. You balance the herd with guns, not bows in Sept. or ML in late January.
A little history here, myself and another gent were responsible for the early Sept. start date in Ky. back in 2002. Same thing then, half said they didn't want it. Bugs, heat, other meaningless reasons. But the Commission approved it and now well over 755 hunt at least one day in Sept. and a lot hunt a bunch in Sept. It hasn't done any harm, but has added some fun to those that want more fun. The same would happen here in Ind.
But I'm against this exclusion to xbows here, everybody with a legal weapon gets to play or nobody.
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Post by daneowner on Jul 15, 2012 8:14:54 GMT -5
Here's my concern concerning a Sept. season. Alot of the bucks (including the larger ones) are still in bacholar groups and a feeding pattern which will make then alot more vunerable. Are some asking for a Sept. season for more opportunity to hunt or just to kill their trophy buck early in Ind. so they'll have more time to kill another trophy buck in another state. If the Sept. season was for "doe" only, would they still want it? Personally, I'd rather see the nice bucks left alone to feed-up and go into the rut in good shape and maybe have a chance to spread some of those gene's during the rut before being killed.
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Post by jjas on Jul 15, 2012 9:18:58 GMT -5
I don't support a "special" season for bowhunting. Funny thing about this. The folks who were so against xbows and 2.0 in general have said since that there is too much pressure on the deer herd. But now that these same people want a "special" season, the extra pressure is a non-issue. For many, this is nothing more than a "I didn't get 1.0 passed but I'm gonna try and get my way for 2 weeks in September and keep the evil xbowers from killing "my" deer". What a crock...... Kinda like realizing the state needs more reduction, so add more hunting tools (weapons), now we supposedly need 30 more days to hunt in sept...But yet the same folks support the OBR. Like the OBR guys all say "aint no way you can kill two bucks a year and kill less bucks!" So let me kill two bucks a year, and keep the season the same length! Wasn't the double dippers harvest about the same as what could be expected for a Sept. harvest? Is that not more opprotunity??? If ya don't wanna kill two bucks, don't. I think it would be a win win deal. I'm not quite sure where you are going here but I'll try and clear up how I feel about additional seasons @ this point..... We have 3 months of deer hunting. You can hunt with a longbow, recurve, compound, xbow, pistol, muzzleloader or rifle @ some point during the season. I feel there is adequate opportunity and weapons choices @ this time. I don't favor "special" seasons to pacify a few crybabies who didn't get their way when 1.0 didn't pass. The DNR needs to let the new regs run their course for a few seasons and see what happens AS IS and don't try to placate the few @ the expense of the majority and/or the deer herd.
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Post by billybobteeth on Jul 15, 2012 10:08:18 GMT -5
If this poll is indicative of the general populations feelings on the Early Sept bow season .Then it is quite obvious that thus far with a 18 to 5 participants in the poll .That far far far more than half do not want a Sept start to Bow season. Almost a 4 to 1 opposition and that is the type opposition that enraged the hunting public enough to completely shut off 1.0 .
So if the DNR has any sense in their midst they will steer clear of another defeat of policy ,bad Public opinion , press, and leave things as is for a while . Frankly this bowhunters spoiled me me me Elitist crap has run it course through most the hunters in this state . By giving them another all alone season would further drive in the divide in hunters and classes IMHO .Its just that big a deal now days here and over most the country .
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