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Post by 10point on Jan 10, 2012 15:00:30 GMT -5
I was reading on another site that since the new rules go into effect in 2012 and that season will run through Jan 31st in the urban zones that CO's are letting people hunt the urban zones until Jan 31st this year since it is 2012. Apparently several people had confirmed this with a CO. I sent email out to my district headquarters. Sure would want to have it in writing myself before going. It appears that this might only be for lifetime license holders also since there are no 2012 licenses yet.
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Post by gobblerstopper on Jan 10, 2012 15:08:51 GMT -5
Im pretty sure your license is good for 2011-2012. I was also told by a CO this morning that the urban season is open.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 10, 2012 15:26:00 GMT -5
According to the DNR this was an oversight on their part..
You are good to go if you have a Lifetime license. The 2012 UDZ licenses have not been issued yet.
It is EAB though...
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Post by Sasquatch on Jan 10, 2012 15:32:19 GMT -5
According to the DNR this was an oversight on their part.. You are good to go if you have a Lifetime license. The 2012 UDZ licenses have not been issued yet. It is EAB though... Wow, that's really fair. |
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Post by 10point on Jan 10, 2012 15:35:54 GMT -5
Just got the confirmation email from the DNR that it is for lifetime holders. May go out once since I cant seem to find the waterfowl.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 10, 2012 21:11:25 GMT -5
I hope they have told the check stations.
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Post by buckeater on Jan 10, 2012 21:21:54 GMT -5
so say someone did shoot their doe first then got their buck by the 31st. then come next september when urban reopens they are after does only then right. kinda confusing when we already starting a new season when one just ended. i dont hunt urban just trying to understand this a lil better.
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Post by silvertip on Jan 10, 2012 21:27:37 GMT -5
Today I received a copy of an email sent out to northern regional conservation officers. The text follows:
"Subject: FW: Deer Season Is Still In
Gentlemen ….. Regarding the new rule package, there are many changes that we all need to be aware of. One that was not foreseen but opportunistic hunters saw right away was that the urban deer zone season is now extended until January 31st. The intent was never to have that season extended this first year but there is nothing in the rule that prevents it. As soon as the rule went into effect, the extended urban zone season went into effect. So... this means that deer season is still in! This of course creates some problems, the first being that most check stations have already had their tags and books picked up. We will obviously have difficulties checking any deer in that are harvested under this urban season. Each district that contains an urban zone is to contact at least one check station and inform them of the issue. We can then have an officer return some tags and books to that check station just for this purpose. If you let region know what check station is “back in business”, we can direct hunters to that station. If anyone has a better idea, please let me know.
Secondly, the urban deer season license is not available until sometime this spring, the fee for the license has not even been set yet. That means that the only persons that can legally harvest a deer under this rule are those with a valid youth comprehensive hunt/trap license, lifetime comprehensive hunting license, regular archery license, extra archery license, or bonus antlerless license.
I realize this will not affect everyone but I wanted everyone to be aware of this issue as you may get questions and you should know how the division is handling it. Please let me know if you see anything else that we are missing. You will need to make all officers under your command aware of these issues ASAP.
312 IAC 9-3-4 Season dates and bag limits
Authority: IC 14-10-2-4; IC 14-22-2-6
Affected: IC 14-22
Sec. 4. (a) An individual must not take more than one (1) deer with each deer license.
(d) The urban deer season is as follows:
(1) From September 15 through January 31 of the following year in an urban deer zone.
(2) Under this subsection:
(A) An individual must take not more than four (4) deer of which only one (1) may be antlered.
(B) At least one (1) antlerless deer must be taken in an urban deer zone prior to taking an antlered deer."
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 10, 2012 21:34:33 GMT -5
Thanks silvertip..
I think he missed the landonwers too. Any landowner will be able to hunt then too
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 10, 2012 21:35:25 GMT -5
so say someone did shoot their doe first then got their buck by the 31st. then come next september when urban reopens they are after does only then right. kinda confusing when we already starting a new season when one just ended. i dont hunt urban just trying to understand this a lil better. I'm guessing that this is still the 2011-2012 season |
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Post by bigswiss on Jan 10, 2012 21:45:11 GMT -5
Well this is a cluster. So since I have an archery license that i failed to kill any deer with I can hunt my newly aquired UDZ til the 31st.?? and therefore could I kill a buck and a doe (as long as kill doe first) since the buck I killed this past Nov. was not on an Urban tag?  |
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Post by bigswiss on Jan 10, 2012 22:08:20 GMT -5
* UPDATE*
Just checked IDNR website and you can still purchase a 2011 UDZ license, they must have updated the server.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 11, 2012 12:15:35 GMT -5
I asked the DNR a few questions.. Their answers in green
1) Does the doe I killed in 2011 count as my EAB doe.. even thought that county was not an UDZ last year?
I have been told that the EAB requirement began on January 1, so only does taken from January 1 on, AND in an UDZ, will count as EAB deer. Hunters should speak with their local conservation officers before heading out to be certain.
2) If I kill a doe now will that be my doe for the UDZ beginning September 15th?
No. These deer will count toward the 2011-2012 season. September 15 starts the 2012-2013 season, and is a clean slate.
3) Will the kill in January be counted on the 2011-2012 season or the 2012-2013 season?
Deer killed this January will count towards the 2011-2012 season.
Supposedly this is an Email to all the Regional COs.. Not sure who issued it but a member on my site (A CO?) posted it. The writer missed that the landowners being legal too.
Landowners should be legal as well.
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Post by dadfsr on Jan 11, 2012 12:56:23 GMT -5
OK I've been trying to keep up on this but I have to ask anyway-this is only for archery right??
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 11, 2012 14:38:06 GMT -5
OK I've been trying to keep up on this but I have to ask anyway-this is only for archery right?? Yes...vertical and horizontal |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 11, 2012 16:34:58 GMT -5
The latest from the DNR...
As a follow up to the email that was sent Monday related to deer hunting in urban deer zones through Jan. 31, yesterday the Natural Resource Commission approved the fees for urban deer zone licenses as follows: resident urban deer zone license $24, non-resident urban deer zone license $150, non-resident youth urban deer zone license $24, apprentice resident urban deer zone license $24, apprentice non-resident urban deer zone license $150, apprentice non-resident youth urban deer zone license $24. To answer the question, “what license do I need to deer hunt in an urban zone?” the answer is an urban deer zone license, unless the hunter is exempt from needing a license. Remember the urban deer license is included in 1) the youth consolidated hunting license, 2) the lifetime comprehensive hunting license and 3) the lifetime comprehensive hunting and fishing license. The urban deer zone license is available for sale in the iPOS system.
There have already been questions regarding the earn-a-buck requirement that is now in effect for the 2011 urban deer zone season (Sept. 15, 2011 thru Jan. 31, 2012). Given that the urban zone deer bag limit remains the same at 4 deer (all 4 antlerless or 3 antlerless+1 antlered), below are a couple scenarios to help address those questions ….
Scenario 1 - if a hunter has already harvested an antlered deer in an urban deer zone, all (s)he can harvest thru Jan. 31 would be antlerless deer in an urban deer zone.
Scenario 2 – if a hunter hasn’t harvested an urban zone antlered deer and has already harvested an urban zone antlerless deer during the 2011 urban zone deer season, (s)he can harvest one urban zone antlered deer thru Jan. 31 in an urban deer zone.
Scenario 3 – if a hunter hasn’t harvested any urban zone deer, (s)he must harvest an antlerless deer in an urban deer zone prior to harvesting an antlered deer in an urban deer zone.
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Post by 10point on Jan 11, 2012 17:43:21 GMT -5
What about this scenario. I harvested an anterlesss deer in the urban zone but with a gun. That doesn't count as my anterless in the urban zone does it?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 11, 2012 18:58:36 GMT -5
What about this scenario. I harvested an anterlesss deer in the urban zone but with a gun. That doesn't count as my anterless in the urban zone does it? I don't think so....UDZ kills are bow only |
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Post by scottrader on Jan 11, 2012 19:21:39 GMT -5
I thought if you hunted an urban zone you could shoot both of your bucks there. I figured if you have already shot your urban zone buck you would now have to shoot a doe before you could kill your other buck. That's the way I thought the rules worked. Don't hunt the urban zone, but know people that do.
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Post by poppshunts on Jan 11, 2012 19:24:58 GMT -5
do i need an urban license or is my reg archery tags enough?
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