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Post by hornharvester on Oct 8, 2011 10:46:52 GMT -5
For those of you who dont have one and want the LTL holders to pay more for their tags you guys should first pony up the $525.00 each that LTL holders paid and then we all can pay for tags together. How about it, sound fair now?
LTL were available up to about 10 years ago so anyone one 28 or older had the opportunity like we did to buy one. If you chose not to then you have no one to blame but yourself. The last year the DNR sold them them came out and said there would be a deer license increase the next year. You all had plenty of warning in my opinion. h.h.
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 8, 2011 10:54:40 GMT -5
I don't have a LTL however I agree with HH all the way. They made their investment and should not be penalized for it now.
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Post by endeavorshooter on Oct 8, 2011 10:56:33 GMT -5
HH, it was up to 750.00 before they done away with them. so they should pony up that amount, first!
To be clear, I am not a LTL holder
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Post by gobblerstopper on Oct 8, 2011 11:19:40 GMT -5
HH, good plan. Doubt there will be many takers though.
I actually think they were higher than $750 when they did away with them. If you got the comp. hunting and fishing it was closer to $1150. I thought.
I got the comp. for $708 and it took me about 5 years to pay for it. My parents bought it for me and I paid them back when I could.
HH, you are incorrect about the 28 and older though. My brother bought my 10 year old nephew one before they did away with them. He's 21 or 22 now. He was going to buy the younger boy one and didn't. Might have been a good choice, since he is not interested in hunting right now. Well see if he takes it up down the road though.
The good thing is that if you move away from Indiana it is still honored.
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Post by Decatur on Oct 8, 2011 11:36:24 GMT -5
 HH! BTW, I do NOT own one. |
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Post by parson on Oct 8, 2011 12:04:28 GMT -5
I got mine the last year that they were available. Don't remember the exact price, but it was close to a grand for the comprehensive. And that was a lot of money for me, but I weighed it against future licenses at increased prices. If I live to hunt a few more years I'll break even on it. I bought it far what it was- a lifetime license. Not a down payment that would enable me to buy discounted future licenses! Complainers sound to me kinda like "the rich have to pay their fair share" crowd. Big HH! |
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Post by hornharvester on Oct 8, 2011 13:13:52 GMT -5
HH, good plan. Doubt there will be many takers though. I actually think they were higher than $750 when they did away with them. If you got the comp. hunting and fishing it was closer to $1150. I thought. I got the comp. for $708 and it took me about 5 years to pay for it. My parents bought it for me and I paid them back when I could. HH, you are incorrect about the 28 and older though. My brother bought my 10 year old nephew one before they did away with them. He's 21 or 22 now. He was going to buy the younger boy one and didn't. Might have been a good choice, since he is not interested in hunting right now. Well see if he takes it up down the road though. The good thing is that if you move away from Indiana it is still honored. G.S. I was basing my figures on a person that was 18 at the time they quit selling the license. Someone 18 is considered an adult and usually has a job and could have boughten a LTL if they wanted to. h.h. |
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Post by gobblerstopper on Oct 8, 2011 14:07:08 GMT -5
I understand hh. Just thought it was cool that a 10 year old will never have to buy a license.
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Post by DFINN on Oct 8, 2011 14:10:36 GMT -5
I bought mine the year it went up from $525 to $708 in 1989 the best investment in hunting I've ever made
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Post by whiteoak on Oct 8, 2011 15:07:53 GMT -5
I used a part of my fur check to buy my LTL and at the time 525.00 worth of fur was a lot of fur to catch and put at 6 bucks a coon and 2 bucks for rats, but in the long run, it was the best investment I will ever make.
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Post by jajwrigh on Oct 8, 2011 15:16:05 GMT -5
HH, good plan. Doubt there will be many takers though. I actually think they were higher than $750 when they did away with them. I know I paid over $800 for the comprehensive hunting and I got mine paid for on the very last day that they were available. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 8, 2011 15:29:54 GMT -5
Mine was $375. That was back when tags were $5 and going up to $13 the next year..At that time the DNR would mail your tags to LTL holders..
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Post by HighCotton on Oct 8, 2011 16:06:28 GMT -5
I was one of the last guys to buy the LTL on 12-19-01 before the price increase on January 1, 2002. I still remember how whitetail1 and I were in the office working the calculations that made it easy to see that they would easily pay for themselves in less than 5 years. Our only regret is that we didn't purchase them for our sons, too.
I just looked through my files and found that on 12-19-01, I paid $708.75 for the Comprehensive Hunting and Fishing License. Comprehensive Hunting only was $525.00 and you could add $183.75 for Fishing as a "special deal." Or the way the DNR site stated, you could pay 90% of the total of hunting and fishing ($787.50) to reach the $708.75. This was good through 12-31-01.
The total as of January 1, 2002 was $427.50 (fishing) plus $855.00 (hunting) equaling $1282.50. You could pay the "special deal" of 90% and your total came to $1154.25.
It was a short time later the LTL was discontinued.
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Post by windingwinds on Oct 8, 2011 16:13:17 GMT -5
I am fairly sure I would give up my landowner's exemption to buy a LTL. More opportunities to hunt for sure instead of buying a tag for this, a tag for that, anytime I get a chance to hunt off our own property. Buying tags and licenses for the whole family quickly adds up and my oldest only has a couple years of youth left.........
I do not think charging LTL holders will benefit Indiana at all. My 2 cents.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 17:30:00 GMT -5
How can buying a LTL cover the cost of a license that wasn't even created when you bought it -- Ex. crossbow license
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Post by parson on Oct 8, 2011 17:43:33 GMT -5
I don't remember the entire application, but wasn't there a reference to present, as well as. future licenses?
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Post by hornharvester on Oct 8, 2011 18:01:08 GMT -5
If I remember right the application said LTL would cover all current license and any newly create license for the rest of the owners life. Mine was 525.00 at the time. h.h.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Oct 8, 2011 18:14:28 GMT -5
IC 14-22-12-7
Lifetime licenses; fees
Sec. 7. (a) Before July 1, 2005, the director may issue to residents of Indiana lifetime licenses to hunt, fish, or trap. Subject to subsection (b), the following license fees shall be charged:
(1) Lifetime basic fishing license, twenty (20) times the fee charged for a resident yearly license to fish. This license replaces the resident yearly license to fish.
(2) Lifetime basic hunting license, twenty (20) times the fee charged for a resident yearly license to hunt. This license replaces the resident yearly license to hunt.
(3) Lifetime comprehensive fishing license, thirty (30) times the fee charged for a resident yearly license to fish. This license
replaces the resident yearly license to fish and all other yearly licenses, stamps, or permits to fish for a specific species.
(4) Lifetime comprehensive hunting license, sixty (60) times the fee charged for a resident yearly license to hunt. This license replaces the resident yearly license to hunt and all other yearly licenses, stamps, or permits to hunt for a specific species or by a specific means.
(5) Lifetime comprehensive hunting and fishing license, the fee charged under subdivisions (3) and (4) less ten percent (10%). This license replaces the following:
(A) The resident yearly license to hunt.
(B) All other yearly licenses, stamps, or permits to hunt for a specific species or by a specific means.
(C) The resident yearly license to fish.
(D) All other yearly licenses, stamps, or permits to fish for a specific species.
(6) Lifetime trapping license, twenty (20) times the fee charged for a resident yearly license to trap. This license replaces the resident yearly license to trap.
(b) This subsection applies only to individuals who are at least fifty (50) years of age. The license fees under subsection (a) shall be reduced by the amount determined under STEP THREE of the following formula:
STEP ONE: Subtract forty-nine (49) from the resident applicant's age in years.
STEP TWO: Multiply the difference determined under STEP ONE by two and one-half percent (2.5%).
STEP THREE: Multiply the percentage determined under STEP TWO by the amount of the appropriate fee under subsection (a).
(c) Each lifetime license:
(1) is nontransferable;
(2) expires on the death of the person to whom the license was issued; and
(3) may be suspended or revoked for the same causes and according to the same procedures that a resident yearly license to hunt, fish, or trap, as appropriate, may be suspended or revoked.
(d) No part of a lifetime hunting, fishing, or trapping license is refundable. However, the holder of:
(1) a basic license to hunt or fish may be given credit for the current cost of such a license when purchasing a comprehensive license to hunt or fish or hunt and fish; and
(2) a comprehensive license to hunt or fish may be given credit for the current cost of such a license when purchasing a lifetime comprehensive license to hunt and fish.
(e) All money received under this section shall be deposited in the lifetime hunting, fishing, and trapping license trust fund established by IC 14-22-4.
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Post by 1ranger49 on Oct 8, 2011 18:19:54 GMT -5
Not much difference in my opinion then a mortgage % rate on a persons home.
Say you locked in on a 30 year mortgage rate of 3.5% and future home buyers rate jumped up to 6.% on buying a new home. Shouldn't the rest of the people that have the lower rate be willing to up their rate to help those who missed out on the lower rate?
I'm sure everyone is willing to help support all of the banks that are struggling just like the DNR.
To me that is just life, you win some you lose some.
Oh, by way, I don't have a mortage on my house as it was paid off years ago and I do have LTL.
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Post by West28 on Oct 8, 2011 19:16:58 GMT -5
. I just looked through my files and found that on 12-19-01, I paid $708.75 for the Comprehensive Hunting and Fishing License. Comprehensive Hunting only was $525.00 and you could add $183.75 for Fishing as a "special deal." Or the way the DNR site stated, you could pay 90% of the total of hunting and fishing ($787.50) to reach the $708.75. This was good through 12-31-01. It was a short time later the LTL was discontinued. My wonderful wife surprised me with my LTL as a X-mas gift, at the time our annual gross income was $33K and we were raising our two beautiful children. To even mention the idea of charging LTL holders is absurd!!! I'm contributing to the DNR annually when I purchase my wife's Hunting license/tags and my two children that hunt as well. Man do I wish we'd bought them one as well. I also purchased my lifetime personal protection in 07' and encourage everyone to do the same before they are not available. |
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