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Post by SSNFA on Nov 19, 2008 12:43:19 GMT -5
Just got word that my buck shot on Oct. 28 that I couldnt find after 10 hours of searching has been found. I am going to recover it tonight. The owner of the property says its a mainframe 10 with three scoreable stickers and he is guessing 150+ !!!! My biggest buck to date is probably 110".
I am a freakin ball of nerves!!!
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Nov 19, 2008 12:57:06 GMT -5
At least he was found and I am assuming you haven't killed another buck since then. Congrats on the nice deer.
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Post by DocHolliday on Nov 19, 2008 16:50:58 GMT -5
wow glad you found him be sure to post pictures of the rack
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Post by Decatur on Nov 19, 2008 16:56:27 GMT -5
PICTURES!
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Post by hoosieroutdoorsman on Nov 19, 2008 16:57:43 GMT -5
congrats,, it is great to have people willing to help recover.
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Post by varmint101 on Nov 19, 2008 16:58:01 GMT -5
Congrats on being able to get your hands on him! Too bad he can't make P&Y now, but oh well! That's a biggun!!
That's nice of the owner too.
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 19, 2008 17:16:46 GMT -5
Good bit of fortune to get the rack. I've seen one recovered that was the same situation and had lost a g2 between when it was bow shot and found. Get a tag for it.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 19, 2008 18:36:20 GMT -5
It is good to recover the deer. You tried hard to find him. Now you can honor him properly with a prominent place on the wall.
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Post by SSNFA on Nov 19, 2008 19:00:26 GMT -5
Ok, here is the skinny. I never posted anything about this deer because I have been very depressed about killing such a wonderful deer that I felt like I knew. Myself and three other guys have been hunting this deer for three years. Last year we guess that he was close to 155-160" and now we know he was on the down slope. The last week of October, last year, all three of us missed him in a one week span. That week he earned the nickname "lucky". The names stuck and we have called him that for a year. On October 28 of this year he broke out of the same thicket, on the same trail at the same time, one year and a couple days to the date I missed him last year. I waited patiently for him to close to 15 yards and then I made a horrible rookie mistake. I took a 15 yard quartering to shot that I should have never taken. He left no blood at the point of impact and didn't start bleeding for 100 yards. The blood trail went about 100 yards and then vanished in a cut bean field. I searched 2 days and over 10 hours for this deer before having to give up due to work getting a little P'd off that I wasn't showing up. Today the neighbor called and said he found him. He still had my arrow in him and everything. We called the IDNR and a C.O. gave me the low down on how to legally tag him. I have not shot any other bucks this year in hopes that I would find him. I have now legally checked him in and he is mine!!!! He isn't quite the 150" that the neighbor had guessed in his first sight excitement, but he should gross high 140's and net 140+. He is a mainframe 10pt with two pointable stickers. I don't know how the books work and if he is eligible for either HRB or P&Y, but to be honest I dont really care. He will be mounted with a beautiful purchased cape and will be something I can always be proud of and something I can pass onto my son who will be born in March. Regardless, he is a treasure to me.
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Post by varmint101 on Nov 19, 2008 19:16:35 GMT -5
Dang that's a nice buck! Congrats on being able to put your tag on him!!
P&Y won't count, but I think it'd still count for HRB. But like you said, who cares! That's a nice deer!
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Post by DocHolliday on Nov 19, 2008 19:18:07 GMT -5
congrats
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Post by SSNFA on Nov 19, 2008 20:28:11 GMT -5
Hey, I stick by my not caring about books, but now you have peaked my curoiousity. Why wouldn't it qualify for P&Y. Here is what I got from the net:
To be eligible for entry into the Pope & Young Club’s Records Program, an animal must have been taken:
Entirely by the use of the bow and arrow (as defined by the Pope & Young Club) In complete compliance with the controlling state/provincial hunting regulations In complete compliance with the Club’s Rules of Fair Chase After official measurement, the score must meet or exceed the corresponding minimum score requirement for that species category On any antlered big game species (for which the inside spread measurement is part of the final score), the skull plate must be completely intact and unaltered (i.e., the skull plate can not be split, either intentionally or otherwise) No repairs or alterations to the antlers or horns are acceptable.
Procedure:
“Drying” Period – Once an animal has been harvested and tagged/registered/processed, the antlers/horns/skull needs to go through a mandatory drying period of at least 60 days. Before the drying period begins, it would be appropriate to completely clean the skull plate (for antlered and horned animals). In the case of bear and cougar skulls, the drying period can not begin until the skull have been completely cleaned of all flesh and membrane (either via boiling or a bug box). During this drying period, the antlers/horns/skull must remain at room temperature and normal atmospheric humidity, in an unaltered state.
Once the drying period has elapsed, the successful hunter would get in contact with one of the Club’s volunteer official measurers to make arrangements to have the antlers/horns/skull scored. The Club has a corp of trained volunteer official measurers around North America who generously provide the public service of measuring these animals for entry into the Records. A list of official measurers in each state or province is available upon request from the Club’s headquarters, or can be found in the “Find a Measurer” portion of this web site.
If it meets the entry requirements, then the bowhunter (typically with the assistance of the measurer) completes and submits the necessary paperwork to the Club.
Once the Club’s office accepts the entry into the Records and processes it, then the final score becomes “official” (until that takes place, technically, any animal would have a official score of zero).
Once the entry is processed, the bowhunter will receive, among other things, a certificate suitable for framing that signifies the animal has been accepted into the Records. The entry is then listed in the next published record book and will remain in the Records Program archives for all time.
Entry Materials:
The following materials are to be submitted to the Club’s headquarters for each animal being entered into the Records Program:
Original scoring form, completed by the official measurer (either P&Y or B&C) Fair Chase Affidavit, completed and signed by the bowhunter and signed by a witness Three (3) photographs of the antlers, horns or skull (a view from the front, a view from the left and a view from the right) A field photo (of the animal and the hunter), if available $35.00 recording fee, payable to the Pope and Young Club * There is no time limit to when an animal can be measured and submitted for entry into the Records Program.
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Post by powderfinger on Nov 19, 2008 20:33:34 GMT -5
Happy for ya! Any idea why you didn't find him?
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Post by SSNFA on Nov 19, 2008 20:38:33 GMT -5
Because he was on private property that I didnt have a legal access to at the time. I try to respect peoples privacy and take trespassing laws serious, and in turn ask that my neighbors do the same.
Some do, and some don't.
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Post by johnc911 on Nov 19, 2008 21:00:30 GMT -5
Congrats. I was saying no way it was 140 till i saw the last picture. Very Nice.
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Post by varmint101 on Nov 19, 2008 21:12:11 GMT -5
From what I know, once you have stopped looking that's it. It's considered a pickup or "roadkill" whatever you want to call it. B&C would accept it, but P&Y wouldn't.
I may be wrong, but that's what I was told years ago.
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Post by SSNFA on Nov 19, 2008 21:12:21 GMT -5
Yeah, the ground photos don't do him justice at all. I will have some more photos of me and the rack tomorrow instead of a three year old. I didn't have anyone to take them tonight. I was also very glad my friends called the DNR before they dragged it out of the woods. That way I was the one who offically recovered and temp. tagged the buck, transported to the check station and then checked it in. The C.O. was nice enough to even call the check station ahead of time and explain the late recovery. I guess to them it is probably a normal thing. Me Recovering it in the woods, still had my arrow in him: My Poor heap of a buck: Another "3 Year Olds Mae Bucks Look Huge" Photo:
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 19, 2008 21:39:28 GMT -5
From what I know, once you have stopped looking that's it. It's considered a pickup or "roadkill" whatever you want to call it. B&C would accept it, but P&Y wouldn't. I may be wrong, but that's what I was told years ago. I had heard that too when it was about the Rath buck. Of course when someone shoots a buck of this caliber do they ever really "stop looking?"
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Post by jim1966 on Nov 19, 2008 22:32:24 GMT -5
Congrats. I was saying no way it was 140 till i saw the last picture. Very Nice. Thats what I thought to. Lying on the groud rotten didn't do it justice. Very nice buck. Glad you finally got him. Congrats.
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Post by Decatur on Nov 20, 2008 1:10:46 GMT -5
That's a dandy! Not much left of him! I'm surprised the squirrels and mice don't have the antlers all chewed up. Congrats!
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