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Post by cambygsp on Dec 18, 2006 5:47:42 GMT -5
We hunted Fairbanks Landings Saturday Morning.
We had planned a small group to be going, 5 of us in all.
Saturday morning my buddy calls and says he and Wayne can't go. Why? I asked.
Well turns out they have already taken their bucks this year and both were hunting on a bonus (antlerless) license.....AND YOU CAN'T USE THEM ON F&W AREAS!!!!!
I'm not buying a muzzleloader tag when I already have a bonus tag that is good for the same deer!, is what Rich said!
This tag thing really sucks!...........Is anyone listening?
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Post by grappledad on Dec 18, 2006 6:07:23 GMT -5
I hear ya, a buddy of mine is in the same boat. Archery is the answer.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 18, 2006 9:02:00 GMT -5
Bummer!
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Post by raporter on Dec 18, 2006 10:39:38 GMT -5
Camby this is a long time problem that needs fixed now. Just think how many times under the current system hunters have been illegal without even knowing it. We need a complete overhaul.  |
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 18, 2006 10:44:39 GMT -5
I agree.
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Post by jbier22 on Dec 18, 2006 17:03:36 GMT -5
I could not agree more. Seems I have to check the regs evertime the season changes, just to be sure I have the right tag in hand.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 18, 2006 17:10:23 GMT -5
The IDNR knows it has some problems with licensing.
It will take the wisdom of Solomon to figure to all out.
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 18, 2006 18:12:47 GMT -5
....and yet thousands of us manage every year, we're a smart bunch!..
Example:
Hunter says:Yeah I need a deer tag for firearms/ or archery, Attendant answers: buck or doe? Hunter: buck. Attendant responds: okay can I see your drivers license? Hunter: sure! Attendant: that will be $24.00...Thats tough...
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Post by pbr on Dec 18, 2006 18:29:02 GMT -5
....and yet thousands of us manage every year, we're a smart bunch!.. Example: Hunter says:Yeah I need a deer tag for firearms/ or archery, Attendant answers: buck or doe? Hunter: buck. Attendant responds: okay can I see your drivers license? Hunter: sure! Attendant: that will be $24.00...Thats tough... Actually it is not a "buck" or "doe" tag for firearms. There is a tag called a "general firearms" that can only be used on a buck. The what you call "doe" tags are bonus antlerless tags. Beginning this year they had no season, but they are restricted to where you can use them. Archery tags swing both ways. No "buck" or "doe" tag there at all. So if a hunter asked for a "buck" tag for archery the attendant would have to say "  ?" There is no such a thing. Not busting your chops or anything but your post came off pretty elitist. People are having tag problems (the IDNR recognizes it too) and it is not just a few. You condescending post to them is not very nice on your part. |
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Post by Decatur on Dec 18, 2006 18:35:34 GMT -5
....and yet thousands of us manage every year, we're a smart bunch!.. Example: Hunter says:Yeah I need a deer tag for firearms/ or archery, Attendant answers: buck or doe? Hunter: buck. Attendant responds: okay can I see your drivers license? Hunter: sure! Attendant: that will be $24.00...Thats tough... Actually it is not a "buck" or "doe" tag for firearms. There is a tag called a "general firearms" that can only be used on a buck. The what you call "doe" tags are bonus antlerless tags. Beginning this year they had no season, but they are restricted to where you can use them. Archery tags swing both ways. No "buck" or "doe" tag there at all. So if a hunter asked for a "buck" tag for archery the attendant would have to say " ?" There is no such a thing. Not busting your chops or anything but your post came off pretty elitist. People are having tag problems (the IDNR recognizes it too) and it is not just a few. You condescending post to them is not very nice on your part. I agree, our tag system needs a definate over haul. |
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 18, 2006 18:39:31 GMT -5
Thats the condensed version, but thanks for breaking it down for me..I've only been buying tags for 25 years...glad you cleared that up...You're right in archery you can purchase two tags the first archery license and the second is extra archery. You can kill two does or one buck and one doe..Gun season the first tag is a buck tag only! then you have to look at your county bonus doe info. and figure how many you can take. for my county it is 8 does. It's 24.00 for the first bonus tag and 15.00 for each additonal tag. after that...
Sorry if I came across as not being nice to everyone..there goes my Kool-Aide
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Post by pbr on Dec 18, 2006 19:23:13 GMT -5
Thats the condensed version, but thanks for breaking it down for me..I've only been buying tags for 25 years...glad you cleared that up...You're right in archery you can purchase two tags the first archery license and the second is extra archery. Bypass the "second archery tag" and go straight to a bonus antlerless tag - if a person wants to save money. The quicker that a hunter gets to the second bonus antlerless tag the cheaper his hunting will be. $9 saved is $9 saved. Not true. You do not even have to buy a general firearm tag (your "buck" tag) to deer hunt in the firearm season. You can just purchase bonus tags and go hunt anterless only. That is one reason that two season deer hunters wait until the last minute of bow season to buy a general firearm tag. If a deer hunter killed his/her buck in bow season he most certainly wont buy his "first tag (if it) is a buck tag only!" That is another tag problem that the IDNR will have to look at. RR, there are problems with the tag system whether you recognize it or not. True. Those tags can be used anytime, with the appropriate season weapon.. More condescending? |
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 19, 2006 9:45:13 GMT -5
There are tons of folks buying the general firearms tag prior to the end of early bow season. And there are TONS of calls made to the IDNR every year to see how the general firearms tag can be converted into a Antlerless tag.
Over the counter deer tag buyers are getting bent over. Why would they require a "Muzzleloader Tag" to harvest a antlerless deer and not honor a "Bonus tag" for the same purpose?
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Post by indianahick on Dec 19, 2006 12:39:28 GMT -5
It actually means that they only want buck hunters on Fairbanks. Does are still being protected. I also believe that the Indian mounds south of the breed plant are still a no hunting zone.
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Post by larryhagmansliver on Dec 19, 2006 21:49:16 GMT -5
I have a brilliant idea. How about call it a archery tag, firearms tag or muzzle loader tag and forget the whole sex thing and bonus thing. Wait that would be too easy and not confusing enough. I think they should add colors to it. For instance make your first doe red and the second one blue and if you use a firearm maybe red/yellow. OOps there I go again... rambling. Someone might take me serious.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 20, 2006 5:22:41 GMT -5
How about the same tag being good for any weapon, I hate to keep saying it but KY does it much better on multiple fronts.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 20, 2006 10:40:51 GMT -5
Indiana's deer tag system was set up for two bucks, one on archery and one on with a gun or muzzleloader. Since the OBR is in effect the IDNR needs to change to one buck tag for all the seasons since you can only kill one buck. h.h.
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Post by Decatur on Dec 20, 2006 12:25:30 GMT -5
Indiana's deer tag system was set up for two bucks, one on archery and one on with a gun or muzzleloader. Since the OBR is in effect the IDNR needs to change to one buck tag for all the seasons since you can only kill one buck. h.h. They won't because that will lower their income for the year. |
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Post by ActionPoint on Dec 20, 2006 16:29:09 GMT -5
Surely it can't be that hard to figure out. There is always a certain amount of risk when purchasing licenses. It's nice to have a ton of options, but at a certain point you can't have it all. On most state properties you are not allowed to use bonus tags, it's no secret. Therefore you need to account for that when planning on what licenses to purchase and when. If you don't want to bite the bullet and fork out the extra $24 then you still have the option of hunting private land and use the bonus tag you have. Sometimes we don't always get the most convenient or the cheapest way to do things. The licensing system is just as much a means of generating revenue as it is for controlling the deer herd. It sucks wasting a tag and taking a risk by purchasing another, but this usually only affects those that have a few deer under their belt already, so what do you really have to complain about. Consider the extra money spent a little donation to the F&W area you hunt.
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Post by solohunter on Dec 20, 2006 20:24:30 GMT -5
So if they were not hunting a F&W area they could be using their tag...in THIS instance it is a matter of where you want to hunt, not the tag they have. Hunt somewhere else...still changes could be made I guess.
Solohunter
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