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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 20, 2007 18:02:59 GMT -5
Easy fellers..
Several posts on bordering on personal attacks..
Don't go over the edge, OK?
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 20, 2007 18:27:13 GMT -5
No disrespect intended eh? BS. There was nothing in either of your posts BUT disrespect, mockery and inuendo, and you full well know it. So save the phony 'no disrespect intended' lip service routine. Fine John-I explained that I didn`t mean any disrespect-you`ve rejected that, ok. I simply won`t respond to any more of your posts. I really am sorry you feel that way, but it`s your call. Too late. Now Woody had to put us back in our seats. ;D Sorry Woody. I simply do not react very well to certain things, and it shows. Shuttin up here.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 20, 2007 18:32:00 GMT -5
You think what you want. Bush has destroyed America more than any other nation ever could. That is your opion....anyone else have the SAME? All ears...and waiting
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 20, 2007 18:38:56 GMT -5
You think what you want. Bush has destroyed America more than any other nation ever could. That is your opion....anyone else have the SAME? All ears...and waiting You act as if you have never heard that said before. Are you then, a supporter of Bush, Greg? And his Patriot Act? Amnesty? NAU? Greg, other than OBR and PCR, I can't say as I have ever heard you say what you do or don't actually support. Or why you support OBR, yet oppose PCR. I am rather curious as to what you actually do and/or don't support/believe in.
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Post by bsutravis on Mar 20, 2007 19:00:16 GMT -5
John....... Just an observation. It's evident that you get your feathers ruffled by my, and other's viewpoint that your viewpoint is...well....coo-coo, coo-coo, coo-coo. Now, you have every right to defend your position but keep one thing in mind: YOU are the one that made the choice to post your opinion into a thread that was obviously meant for us to sit back and draw the parallels between Tokyo Rose and today's message that we are being fed. Now, don't be so thinned skinned when you enter a ring of those who obviously are going to be leaning to the right, when you voice your opinion about something that is leaning.........well, I'm not sure what way that 9-11 conspiracy fiction is, but it certainly isn't leaning to the right. You rattled the cage by posting something 180 degrees away from what the originator of this thread meant to discuss.....so be prepared for those of us who think your message is garbage to stand up and tell you so.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 20, 2007 19:03:15 GMT -5
John....... Just an observation. It's evident that you get your feathers ruffled by my, and other's viewpoint that your viewpoint is...well....coo-coo, coo-coo, coo-coo. Now, you have every right to defend your position but keep one thing in mind: YOU are the one that made the choice to post your opinion into a thread that was obviously meant for us to sit back and draw the parallels between Tokyo Rose and today's message that we are being fed. Now, don't be so thinned skinned when you enter a ring of those who obviously are going to be leaning to the right, when you voice your opinion about something that is leaning.........well, I'm not sure what way that 9-11 conspiracy fiction is, but it certainly isn't leaning to the right. You rattled the cage by posting something 180 degrees away from what the originator of this thread meant to discuss.....so be prepared for those of us who think your message is garbage to stand up and tell you so. BINGO.......
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 20, 2007 20:07:28 GMT -5
John....... Just an observation. It's evident that you get your feathers ruffled by my, and other's viewpoint that your viewpoint is...well....coo-coo, coo-coo, coo-coo. Now, you have every right to defend your position but keep one thing in mind: YOU are the one that made the choice to post your opinion into a thread that was obviously meant for us to sit back and draw the parallels between Tokyo Rose and today's message that we are being fed. Now, don't be so thinned skinned when you enter a ring of those who obviously are going to be leaning to the right, when you voice your opinion about something that is leaning.........well, I'm not sure what way that 9-11 conspiracy fiction is, but it certainly isn't leaning to the right. You rattled the cage by posting something 180 degrees away from what the originator of this thread meant to discuss.....so be prepared for those of us who think your message is garbage to stand up and tell you so. I gave my honest opinion. Which apparently isn't welcome here. It was not met with any debate, it was met with personal attacks, insults and inuendo. Stating so is not being thin skinned, it is calling it for what it is. I do not play that game. I say what I mean, and if I say something uncalled for, I admit it and I apologize. You know, the grown up way. There is no justification for calling me aliar, then 'claiming' you meant no disrespect. As I have said before, some confuse rudeness with humor.
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 20, 2007 20:14:42 GMT -5
John....... Just an observation. It's evident that you get your feathers ruffled by my, and other's viewpoint that your viewpoint is...well....coo-coo, coo-coo, coo-coo. Now, you have every right to defend your position but keep one thing in mind: YOU are the one that made the choice to post your opinion into a thread that was obviously meant for us to sit back and draw the parallels between Tokyo Rose and today's message that we are being fed. Now, don't be so thinned skinned when you enter a ring of those who obviously are going to be leaning to the right, when you voice your opinion about something that is leaning.........well, I'm not sure what way that 9-11 conspiracy fiction is, but it certainly isn't leaning to the right. You rattled the cage by posting something 180 degrees away from what the originator of this thread meant to discuss.....so be prepared for those of us who think your message is garbage to stand up and tell you so. BINGO....... . . .So that was your answer?
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Post by gundude on Mar 20, 2007 20:43:38 GMT -5
a thread of great interest here... I cant believe I have stayed out of it...... for all you BUSH BASHERS out there look at some of the quotes from the other side concerning the WMD's !.. You might be shocked at what you see... You certainly wont hear this stuff on CNN or from your Union boss! www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.htmlThings that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by lugnutz on Mar 20, 2007 20:58:02 GMT -5
1. Your President is lying to you. >> >> 2. This war is illegal. >> >> 3. You cannot win the war. >>
The people don't need to hear this from anyone, we/they are already realizing this. Sad but true.
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Post by paul3 on Mar 20, 2007 23:05:00 GMT -5
Here are a few of the people that belive that there is a 911 cover up and conspiracy. Senator MAX CLELAND, Senator BOB GRAHAM, Senator MARK DAYTON, Congressman RON PAUL,MD, Director of the FBI, 1993-2001, LOUIS FREEH and 90+Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, Government Officials. All have signed a " 911 Call for Truth " petition
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Post by bsutravis on Mar 20, 2007 23:48:07 GMT -5
Gundude........that was AWESOME. Thanks for the link.
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Post by cambygsp on Mar 21, 2007 2:01:48 GMT -5
I like George Bush, I think he has been a good President during tough times.
Did we need to go to Iraq and make a stand?....I think so!
Sadam was a world bully, he murdered his own people and was a ruthless leader, he needed taken down!
There is also trouble in Afghanistan, and last time I checked the U.S. was active over there also.
I will NEVER beleive that U.S. leadership knew about the 9/11 attacks prior to them occuring. I am sure there was some sort of information that we may have been looking at some form of an attack, but I doubt they knew all the details.
We needed to make a stand in the middle east or quit useing so much oil. Oil is what makes our world go round and we NEED that resource, no matter where in the world it comes from.
Saddam had a whole lot of chances to come clean and all he did was jack with any agency that attempted to make inspections, he spit in our face many many times. IMO Saddam was himself, a weapon of mass destruction.
Our military is completely volunteer, I'll go out on a limb and say that the overwhelming majority of our service folks sign up to see some action, with Iraq and Afghanistan, they get their wish.
As for politicians lieing......no NEW news there.....tell me when we wernt lied to?
I did not have sex with that woman.....lol lol lol....(my cigar did)....and besides that, oral sex isn't really sex....lol lol
George Bush did not create all these problems, he wasn't in office long enough to take responsibility for 9-11.
Has the truth been streched to keep our involvement overseas.....probably so!..........................
have we shown the world that you don't jack with the USA and get away with it....I think so!
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Post by racktracker on Mar 21, 2007 6:54:30 GMT -5
WOW!!
Politics discussion is almost as bad as the OBR discussion.
I'd much rather talk hunting. woudn't you all?
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Mar 21, 2007 7:05:15 GMT -5
Excellent link gundude.
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 21, 2007 7:30:21 GMT -5
Yeah, a very nice link!
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Post by bsutravis on Mar 21, 2007 7:44:49 GMT -5
Yes, you are. Mostly anyway. I do not for one second think that MOST had any knowledge whatsoever. I do think that some knew all about the plot, and allowed it to happen unencumbered.And I also think some took action to make sure it was NOT impeded nor prevented as it should have been.Reference our poorly explained LACK of air support in the area at the time. Our government has experimented in the past with fully fueled, remote controlled passenger planes to be used as missiles. Or that both the buildings were at their 'end of life' and would cost untold millions to demolish. Or all the put options placed just before the attack, which have STILL NOT BEEN CLAIMED by those who placed them. Or the huge insurance policy.....etc.The list is extensive as to why. No one should ever trust their government, or their motives. Our founding fathers understood this fully. Why is it that so many today can't? Of all the insane things that have been said in this thread, my mind just can't help but come back to this particular piece since it seems to be the only place that "evidence" was given to support the bizarre theory of the 9-11 attack. First.... I dunno who dreamed this crap up, but whoever it was must have totally forgot the fact that the plane that went down in Shanksville was headed for either the White House or the Capitol. Do you honestly think that our Government, despite all it's inadequacies and bonehead moves from time to time, would allow an attack to happen into it's own living room??? Second... Our "lack" of air support in the area??? What he heck? Pre-911 were we supposed to have F-16's escorting each airport jumbo jet as it flew to it's destination? We were sucker punched..... That's like saying that the government allows homes to burn each day because obviously there was a lack of fire fighting gear stationed at each home to fight the blaze BEFORE they happened. Third... OUR government has experimented with remote controlled jumbo jets to be used as missiles? No sir, I think you are confusing us with Japan when they routinely used planes as weapons in WWII. I'd love to see some evidence to back that statement. Forth... (This line just happens to be my favorite) That the towers were near the end of their "life" and would cost big $$$ to demolish. LMAO!!!!!! Ummm, John......they opened in '70 & '72......so you think a building of that magnitude is ready for demo at the ripe old age of 30 friggin' years? That "theory" is just hilarious. Fifth... I still don't understand what you meant by "Put options" Sixth... Huge insurance policy??? Newsflash.....bldngs are insured. It's not like the classic scenario where a huge policy was taken out on wife and she ends up dead the next day. If I remember right, the Port Authority had sold the rights to the bldng at some point before the attacks to a management firm......so I guess you are saying that this management firm flew the planes into their own building so they could collect the insurance? That theory is just......right up there with Elvis in a fast food restaurant. So........THAT is the extensive list that you told us about? It's no wonder your argument didn't change any opinions of your theories. Next thing you be trying to sell us on is that the Earth REALLY is flat!!!! No thanks.........
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 21, 2007 16:33:43 GMT -5
Yes, you are. Mostly anyway. I do not for one second think that MOST had any knowledge whatsoever. I do think that some knew all about the plot, and allowed it to happen unencumbered.And I also think some took action to make sure it was NOT impeded nor prevented as it should have been.Reference our poorly explained LACK of air support in the area at the time. Our government has experimented in the past with fully fueled, remote controlled passenger planes to be used as missiles. Or that both the buildings were at their 'end of life' and would cost untold millions to demolish. Or all the put options placed just before the attack, which have STILL NOT BEEN CLAIMED by those who placed them. Or the huge insurance policy.....etc.The list is extensive as to why. No one should ever trust their government, or their motives. Our founding fathers understood this fully. Why is it that so many today can't? Of all the insane things that have been said in this thread, my mind just can't help but come back to this particular piece since it seems to be the only place that "evidence" was given to support the bizarre theory of the 9-11 attack. First.... I dunno who dreamed this crap up, but whoever it was must have totally forgot the fact that the plane that went down in Shanksville was headed for either the White House or the Capitol. Do you honestly think that our Government, despite all it's inadequacies and bonehead moves from time to time, would allow an attack to happen into it's own living room??? I hardly listed all the various holes in the governments version of 9/11. I gave a few off the top of my head, and a couple of links for anyone open minded enough to bother doing some reading. And yes, I think there are people in our government who are capable of anything. What is it about OUR government you feel makes them IMMUNE to criminal behavior? I guess REAL corruption is something that happens ONLY in other country's governments? Second... Our "lack" of air support in the area??? What he heck? Pre-911 were we supposed to have F-16's escorting each airport jumbo jet as it flew to it's destination? We were sucker punched..... That's like saying that the government allows homes to burn each day because obviously there was a lack of fire fighting gear stationed at each home to fight the blaze BEFORE they happened. Sucker punched, eh? www.rense.com/general18/atcd.htmwww.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/200305terroristplan.htmwww.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htmThird... OUR government has experimented with remote controlled jumbo jets to be used as missiles? No sir, I think you are confusing us with Japan when they routinely used planes as weapons in WWII. I'd love to see some evidence to back that statement. www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htmwww.prisonplanet.com/Pages/180404_norad_had_drills.htmlFootage of our military investigating the plausibility of using remote controlled, full fueled passenger planes as bombs has been shown on TV also. Forth... (This line just happens to be my favorite) That the towers were near the end of their "life" and would cost big $$$ to demolish. LMAO!!!!!! Ummm, John......they opened in '70 & '72......so you think a building of that magnitude is ready for demo at the ripe old age of 30 friggin' years? That "theory" is just hilarious. I can't find any links to this. I do remember that there was a serious problem that was going to cost billions of dollars to correct in the very near future.. Fifth... I still don't understand what you meant by "Put options" www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#tradingwww.911review.org/Wiki/PriorKnowledge.shtmlglobalresearch.ca/articles/HEN204B.htmlSixth... Huge insurance policy??? Newsflash.....bldngs are insured. It's not like the classic scenario where a huge policy was taken out on wife and she ends up dead the next day. If I remember right, the Port Authority had sold the rights to the bldng at some point before the attacks to a management firm......so I guess you are saying that this management firm flew the planes into their own building so they could collect the insurance? That theory is just......right up there with Elvis in a fast food restaurant. killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.htmlkilltown.911review.org/oddities/2001.html#October15,2001-Silverstein_seeks_7billion www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2001/10/15/14412.htmkilltown.911review.org/oddities/2002.html#June2,2002-WTC7_settlement killtown.911review.org/oddities/2004.html#May3,2004-Silverstein_payout killtown.911review.org/oddities/2004.html#December6,2004-Silverstein_wins killtown.911review.org/oddities/2003.html#December20,2003-Freedom_Tower_unveiled So........THAT is the extensive list that you told us about? It's no wonder your argument didn't change any opinions of your theories. Next thing you be trying to sell us on is that the Earth REALLY is flat!!!! No thanks......... No, that is only the tip of the iceberg. It was simply some food for thought. I am not calling you names for NOT seeing what many others can clearly see, now am I? I fail to understand why a couple of you find it so hard to remain civil and leave the insults, innuendo and name calling to the kids. If you were so sure of your opinions here, I doubt you would feel the need to resort to such childish replies. Now, I am not claiming to buy into all the 'claims' out there myself. Contrary to what some wish to portray, no one buys all of it. Its simply easier to dismiss if you claim they do. Remember, I did not bring the 9/11 issue here. I simply responded to a direct question asked me by tusti. Now; here is why I know, without any doubt, the official version of 9/11 was a sham: Building #7. It was not damaged by planes or debris, yet somehow 'caught on fire' and collapsed . . . No, it was 'pulled'. It was even stated as pulled on TV. Which means it had ALREADY BEEN rigged with explosives BEFORE 9/11. Which means there is no logical reason to think the other buildings were not also rigged. www.wtc7.net/911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.htmlwww.911review.org/Wiki/Building7Collapse.shtmlwww.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.htmlwww.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.htmlwww.apfn.org/apfn/WTC.htmwww.thewebfairy.com/killtown/wtc7.htmlIf nothing else I have presented is ever looked at, these last links deserve to be.
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Mar 21, 2007 17:49:13 GMT -5
Man..I am SPEECHLESS!!..That must be where my english comp teacher gets his info..I tried to keep an open mind while I went to those last sites on your list,as soon as I seen Dan Rather's name pop up,I know it was going to be good..
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Post by tmarsh83 on Mar 21, 2007 17:55:06 GMT -5
If there is a president to blame for what happened on 9/11, it is William Jefferson Clinton.
The most clandestine, "look at everything I'm not doing" president since JFK.
To steal a line from George Carlin, one called his administration camelot, and the other, ...........edited.........
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