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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 2, 2016 19:59:00 GMT -5
Lol....so everyone in the state now is using HPR??? Come on.... I didn't even come close to saying that, but OK... I believe I said that everyone that selects "Rifle" when checking in their deer is probably using just that...a Rifle. Which, when you look at the table and graph I posted, is steadily increasing. More and more states are starting to allow rifles that have historically disallowed them, but hunting safety is continuing to improve.
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 2, 2016 19:48:40 GMT -5
So how many of these rifles are HPR??? That is the subject in question...apples and oranges! So all rifles in your data are HPR??? What do you classify as a HPR that would not fall under "Rifle" when selected during check-in? The 458 SOCOM "rifle" is only a couple hundred FPS slower than my 178gr 308s... The 450 Bushmaster is even faster... A rifle is a rifle. Putting "high powered" in front of it is merely relative.
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 2, 2016 19:35:03 GMT -5
In the last several years we have been using 358 Hoosier, 444, 4570, 35 Rem, ect. Please show me the data of how many accidents and deaths we have had. "The Tombstone science". After all we do agree these are HPR's. So how many folks have been using theses HPR do you think? Post the data.... I posted this earlier in the thread...the amount of rifles being used has steadily increased as the amount of shotguns has steadily decreased at almost the exact same rate. Yet, hunting-related accidents continue to decline and you are now more likely to get injured BOWLING than while hunting (source: www.nssf.org/pdf/research/iir_injurystatistics2013.pdf)There's your data. ![](http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/shuttered13/deer_zps2tqqc8tf.jpg)
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 13:49:39 GMT -5
This will put southern Indiana hunting ground at a higher premium than it already is... Yes, it could shift all Deer (Firearm) to the southern part of Indiana. NO, it won't ever be the same, Throbak. I foresee some problems that with hope, will be ironed-out. I don't think there will be a huge shift, since the bill only affects private ground. There is not much private ground to be had, anymore, and what is available goes quick whether HPRs are legal there, or not.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 13:16:17 GMT -5
Yes, it could shift all Deer (Firearm) to the southern part of Indiana. NO, it won't ever be the same, Throbak. I foresee some problems that with hope, will be ironed-out. in that case I hope it's i-70 for the divide I'm pretty sure they said US 40 from OH to Indy and then 36 from Indy to IL...but we'll see what the amendments were once they're posted.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 11:38:28 GMT -5
Does this go back to the House since amendments were added, or on to the full Senate? Yes, I believe it goes back to the house.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 11:33:21 GMT -5
Just a quick "side bar" on the subject:...... If they are requiring High Powered rifle in the Southern part of Indiana; will this also apply to the use of wildcat cartridges that aren't "Pistol Cartridges"?? Also how does this 10' elevation requirement apply to cartridges already legal in the State of Indiana?? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Glad we don't have that requirement in Kentucky, as it sounds rather far fetched to me. I agree, there is a bit of ambiguity, but the way i perceived it is that the new rounds being made legal by this bill would be the ones affected by the 10' and southern half of the state rule.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 11:31:59 GMT -5
Passed committee with two amendments. Restricts HPR use to the southern half of the state and requires the hunter to be elevated at least 10ft. I guess this means [some] Southern Indiana Counties. But I can't figure out why the 10' requirement. It was said this was added to copy what South Carolina does to help with those that think there is a safety concern over stray bullets being shot into the air.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 11:30:09 GMT -5
I wonder what the dividing line will be? They listed off the highways/roads that would be line. I heard 40, but was hard to hear the rest of it. It will probably be posted later today.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 10:38:43 GMT -5
Passed committee with two amendments. Restricts HPR use to the southern half of the state and requires the hunter to be elevated at least 10ft.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 22, 2016 10:16:25 GMT -5
Passed senate committee, I think. Video feed kind of cut out, but I think I heard it passed.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 19, 2016 18:46:04 GMT -5
The rifles currently allowed are legal on both public land and private land, is that correct? Yes, the rifles allowed now are legal statewide.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 19, 2016 15:15:57 GMT -5
I think since the bill limits the HPRs to private ground, it will be a good litmus test for the rule change.
There are few areas in the state where 400 yard shots are a possibility that are in the hills. Flat ground is about the safest situation for a rifle. Majority of hunters are going to be shooting towards the ground. Rifle bullets are going to fragment when contacting hard surfaces, losing most of their energy instantly. Slugs and muzzleloader sabots can and will ricochet after hitting the ground.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 14, 2016 10:38:38 GMT -5
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 11, 2016 8:23:32 GMT -5
With the heavy blocking, coon carcass bait, crowded up next to a large tree...looks more like a bobcat set then a coyote set to me. Nice cat. He's been pretty successful with coyotes this year, this is his first cat.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 11, 2016 8:23:02 GMT -5
Cool I've seen 2 and my renter saw one in the front yard on my farm 1 1/2 mile from Switz line getting to be pretty common here what part or county was this one?? Near Vevay in Switzerland Co
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 10, 2016 20:04:39 GMT -5
Caught near Vevay in Switzerland Co just a day or so ago in a coyote set... Look at the size of it! Was a friend of mine. ![](http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/shuttered13/received_10206709339544563_zpsnuchn7nc.jpg)
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 9, 2016 16:12:07 GMT -5
If this bill passes, here is what I think will happen with harvest numbers...they will continue to do what they have done over the past 6 years, nearly remain constant for firearm kills. Here is data from DNR's harvest reports. You can see that shotgun numbers continue to decline, while rifle numbers continue to increase, YET, the total number of deer killed with firearms is dang-near flat. EDIT: just realized I left 2014 data out on accident, but doesn't really change anything. ![](http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/shuttered13/deer_zps2tqqc8tf.jpg)
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 9, 2016 15:51:05 GMT -5
If any of that keeps you out of the woods Might think on a new activity lol Was just answering your question...I'm a bowhunter.
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Post by arlowe13 on Feb 9, 2016 15:46:50 GMT -5
Even in states that allow HPRs the average distance of kill is under 100 yards. Then why do we need a 500 yd gun ??good point Lighter gun Lighter recoil Better accuracy Cheaper ammunition Can be suppressed to save hearing These are just the ones off the top of my head...
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