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Post by elmo on Aug 6, 2010 23:37:11 GMT -5
Can someone tell me how I can walk up to a dead and gutted antlerless deer and know weather it was male or female?
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Post by elmo on Aug 6, 2010 23:27:54 GMT -5
From what Gene said in the meeting last night it is an antlerless only season no matter what weapon that you choose. However, if you hunt in an under 4 county it is business as usual. It will depend on the weather for me.
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Post by elmo on Aug 6, 2010 22:58:14 GMT -5
decatur
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Post by elmo on Aug 6, 2010 22:51:34 GMT -5
I didn't see nearly as many deer, but I did lose the main property that I was hunting for the four years previous.
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Post by elmo on Aug 6, 2010 12:23:59 GMT -5
I and some others from this site went to a meeting last night with Gene Hopkins. The meeting was an informative meeting about the process of how and why these proposals came about. Gene is the president of the Indiana Sportsman's Organization, and an officer of the IBA, and on the group of stakeholders that came up with the proposals.
The meeting was an hour of power point presentation that informed us about the process and why the members brought the proposals that they did.
1. The proposals are far from being rules, so keep sending comments and letters to the powers that be: nrc and nrac
2. The stakeholders were made up of a variety of people from all walks of life and he thought it was a good mix. I personally thought that 4 or 5 IBA members may have slanted the outcome away from the gun hunting public.
Then we had about a half hour of question and answer. There were many questions and comments about the gun and muzzle loader seasons being shortened. He said that it was to have the opening day mentality on 3 different gun hunts, and that there were going to be 18 gun days instead of 16. But, he did not even mention the loss of 7 muzzle loader days.
I personally asked why we would need to change the season structure when the harvest ratio between antlerless and antlered is already at 60/40? Do the biologists count button bucks as male deer when they figure we kill 50/50 now? Why with the vehicle deer collision figures showing that before Nov 14 all days were above 120 and after only 1 day was above 120 are we moving the gun season back? Shouldn't it be moved forward so that we can kill the deer when they are moving most?
The answer to the first two questions was that yes they do count bb as male deer, and that means that we still have a stable to slightly growing deer herd.
The only answer that I got for them moving it back was that they wanted the season to be 9 days and they wanted the Thanksgiving weekend to be a part of the season.
I have been thinking since the meeting and think that if they want Thanksgiving weekend in the season. Maybe we shorten it by one more day, but make it the 2 weekends before and the entire 4 day holiday weekend. Or, lenghten it by 1 day and make it the 3 weekends before and the holiday weekend.
I sent a statement to the nrc saying that using the 2009 harvest data that a 60/40 was almost impossible. We as deer hunters would have to kill 32348 more does to get to that number. Furthermore, there is a bb killed for every 5.5 does and this will just make the doe kill number go up with every pull of the trigger.
If I have gotten anything wrong or misremembered guys who were there please correct me.
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Post by elmo on Aug 2, 2010 22:33:16 GMT -5
The last five would be great. Thanks
The meeting that I was talking about is on Thursday night so the sooner the better.
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Post by elmo on Jul 30, 2010 9:25:53 GMT -5
yep they both shut down my windows
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Post by elmo on Jul 29, 2010 21:18:27 GMT -5
Woody,
Thanks but the site is still kicking me off even with the newest version of adobe downloaded. So, if someone could find or get me this data it would be most appreciated.
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Post by elmo on Jul 29, 2010 9:49:14 GMT -5
Hey Guys,
I need a little help getting the numbers for the deer harvests over the past 5 to 10 years. I would love it if they were broken down by day or date of harvest. My com won't open the attatchments on the dnr site. I was checking out AT and there is a guy over there that is setting up a meeting with those guys. He stated that the changes to the gun season would make it so that we were not waiting to kill our buck until later in the season. When success rates go down. I think that I remember seeing those numbers a year or so ago, and that there are more deer killed on the opening weekend of gun than all the rest of the seasons combined. I would love to be able to ask this question and show the data to him over there.
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Post by elmo on Jun 9, 2010 7:59:55 GMT -5
mine is in
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Post by elmo on Jun 9, 2010 7:45:22 GMT -5
I would think that the plastic on the outside of the slug would gum up my rifled barrel
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Post by elmo on May 28, 2010 20:32:35 GMT -5
Just out of curiousity if the EAB is such a great system why did the state of Wisconsin do away with it this past year? I don't live or hunt there but it seems some of the issues they was having was there was way way to many bucks and hardly any does because the does had been over harvested over the years. After several years of over harvesting does there wasn't any so everyone had to watch bucks walk by. Im not familiar with past Wisconsin game laws .... was their eab program for the first buck or second? The only thing I am certain of is the fact that no single plan is perfect .... no single plan will work in all situations .... no single plan will work for an indefinite amount if time. I guess that is 3 things .... but anyway. As the needs arise, adjustments must be made to any plan. You say that as the needs arise, adjustments must be made to any plan. Then why do you seem to be holding onto the OBR so tightly. Maybe it's run its course. Maybe it's tine to earn a second no restriction buck. I don't really care that much one way or another, because I do hunt the parks and military refuge. I can and do kill more than 1 buck in most years.
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Post by elmo on May 25, 2010 22:40:39 GMT -5
I read the turtle thread and buster said, that he could find no restrictions on taking game turtles, but does a landowner need a license to kill turtles that are killing his baby ducks and geese?
Thanks,
Scott
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Post by elmo on May 19, 2010 21:37:02 GMT -5
danimal8876
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Post by elmo on May 19, 2010 21:27:06 GMT -5
I only took 1 deer last year because I only had 2 shots. I missed a doe with my bow and killed the only deer that I saw while having a gun in my hand. It wasn't a good year for me, but I did lose mt primary deer hunting land 3 days after bow season opened.
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Post by elmo on May 19, 2010 21:19:57 GMT -5
North American Whitetail I'm pretty sure.
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Post by elmo on May 18, 2010 21:39:10 GMT -5
I believe after seeing your picture on this site that it was you. I see a 195 1/8 under your name, am I right?
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Post by elmo on May 14, 2010 22:52:14 GMT -5
I can't believe that I didn't see "Old Faithful" that's about the only one that is named where I hunt.
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Post by elmo on May 9, 2010 17:49:14 GMT -5
I got mine in a field with no dekes, because everytime I had dekes out the toms stayed about 70 yards away and gobbled their fool heads off.
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Post by elmo on May 7, 2010 23:12:50 GMT -5
congrats to her and you. that is a very nice starter bird. lol
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