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Post by Sasquatch on Feb 14, 2007 15:12:32 GMT -5
Any news? Scuttlebutt?
I'm guessing that it would be a new season so we'd all have to go out and buy another tag every year. Anybody got any intel?
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Post by Old Ironsights on Feb 14, 2007 15:17:35 GMT -5
AFAIK, there would be no "new season" as the regulation is simply a change to the delivery systems allowed for the cartridges allready allowed during centerfire season.
Just lengthing the metal tube is all they are doing.
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Post by Sasquatch on Feb 14, 2007 15:41:37 GMT -5
AH! I can't believe they'd pass up the revenue opportunity provided by a special season, but I like that option better. I wonder what the likelyhood of it happening is?
NEF offers a gun that might be interesting for this. a 45 colt/410. That might give some really cool options for deer season, especially if someone would update .410 slugs. I think the gun would have to be drilled and tapped for a scope, but that wouldn't be a big deal.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Feb 14, 2007 15:51:41 GMT -5
AH! I can't believe they'd pass up the revenue opportunity provided by a special season, but I like that option better. I wonder what the likelyhood of it happening is? NEF offers a gun that might be interesting for this. a 45 colt/410. That might give some really cool options for deer season, especially if someone would update .410 slugs. I think the gun would have to be drilled and tapped for a scope, but that wouldn't be a big deal. As much as I like NEF guns, I would NOT consider the .45Colt/.410 to be a good option as it is a combination that has the worst characteristics of both types of firearm. #1: Because it CAN chamber a .410, that means it has a huge throat - way too long for the .45Colt. So you get a huge freebore (bullet "jump" and possible deformation before rifling) and bad fouling. #2: Because the bore is .452/.454 it is WAAY too large for .410 slugs to properly obturate to fit. Bad accuracy - even with one of my hand-cast "super slugs". #3: Because it is rifled, .410 shot patterns will be less than useless at anything beyond a dozen feet. Much better would be to get an NEF Sidekick with a good Pistol Caliber barrel, a good Shotgun barrel and a Muzzy Barrel and swap out as conditions applied. |
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Post by Sasquatch on Feb 14, 2007 16:03:47 GMT -5
Good points to consider, ironsights. "Jack of all trades" guns do tend to be the "masters of nothing. I wouldn't ever consider it for shooting shot. However, I think if 410 slugs were modernized with some kind of sabot, they'd probably work fine. Currently, I don't know of any other gun with a rifled barrel that shoots .410 ( though there may be) I think NEF offers a .44 Handi-rifle. These guns have gotten great reviews, and they are of course designed exclusively for one type of ammo.
As for muzzleloaders, I wish I had bought the NEF Huntsman when I was "muzzy" shopping. They don't advertise that thing enough, and it was around for a long time before other break actions came around.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Feb 14, 2007 16:13:16 GMT -5
The NEF/H&R Combos allow you to buy a gun with 2 or 3 barrels depending on what you want to do. www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Combos/versaPack.aspxThere are a few Winchester 9410 and Marlin 410 shotguns with removable chokes that give you one rifled IC choke. My 9410 is a full CB smoothie though. Biggest problem with a saboted .410 load (and why you will never see one) is overpressure in old thin-barreled .410s. The Handi-rifle, 9410 and Marlin 410s are all hugely strong though, as the 9410 is essentially the 1894 Big Bore and the Marlin is essentially a 336 - both capable of .444 and better pressures. As a matter of fact, I know of one gunsmith who rifled a 9410 barrel, bringing it from .413 nominal to .427 so the owner could fire .444 cartridges (.429 bullet). Biggest problem there was freebore, but that's what the guy wanted. |
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Post by Sasquatch on Feb 14, 2007 17:38:43 GMT -5
I bet there are a lot of wierd customized guns floating around out there. The guy who had a gun modified dead and gone, the reason he did so a mystery.....
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Post by coyote6974 on Feb 14, 2007 20:20:22 GMT -5
Henderson, Due to yesterdays weather the meeting of the NRC scheduled for yesterday was cancelled. They are supposed to reschedule the meeting for sometime in late March.
Coyote 6974
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