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Post by lugnutz on Nov 25, 2006 0:30:28 GMT -5
I was informed earlier today, that in Ky if a landowner doesn't give you permission to enter his property to find a deer, a CO doesn't have the power to let you recover the animal.
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Post by danf on Nov 25, 2006 0:31:41 GMT -5
Isn't it the same here in IN?
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 25, 2006 0:36:50 GMT -5
I know a CO doesn't have to have a search warrant to enter your home. I thought if a CO met with me and the land owner, they had to let you both on to recover the animal.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 25, 2006 4:20:22 GMT -5
Isn't it the same here in IN? Yes the SAME in INDIANA.....If they say no then your <EDIT> !!!!! That simple |
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Post by bsutravis on Nov 25, 2006 8:04:53 GMT -5
Greg is correct...... The ICO has a lot of power, but they cannot force a landowner to give permission to recover a downed animal. I think that should be changed though...as long as the ICO is with the hunter I think that it should fall into the category of making a reasonable effort to recover the animal.
On the flip side, I'd venture to guess that if you show up with law enforcement MOST people are going to give into the desire of the CO to allow for the recovery of the animal.
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Post by retnuhreed on Nov 25, 2006 8:45:12 GMT -5
I do believe you guys are wrong on that.
A CO can enter and retrieve a deer even if the land owner refuses.
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Post by cambygsp on Nov 25, 2006 9:17:26 GMT -5
I do believe you guys are wrong on that. A CO can enter and retrieve a deer even if the land owner refuses. A conservation officer is just a law enforcement officer. They follow all the same rule and regulations that ALL other law enforcement officers follow....they do not have any special powers that other law enforcement officers don't have. NO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, INCLUDING ICO'S, CAN ENTER PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY.....UNLESS THERE IS SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE THAT A CRIME HAS BEEN OR IS BEING COMMITTED, UNLESS THEY HAVE A SEARCH WARRANT ISSUED BY A JUDGE! A deer running onto private property to die does not constitute any sort of crime allowing the ICO to determine suffecient probable cause!..........However with that said, not very many (law-abiding) landowners will tell any law enforcement officer, including ICO's that they can not enter and retreive a dead deer. |
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Post by retnuhreed on Nov 25, 2006 10:37:26 GMT -5
I posted a similar topic a few years ago. I could not find it in a search, but I thought I remembered hearing a CO say they can enter someoneone's woods without their permission.
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Post by bsutravis on Nov 25, 2006 15:48:14 GMT -5
Not to retrieve a deer....... He can to check for violations, but he's no different than anyone else when it comes to "trespassing" in the retrieval of a deer....... Like I said, I think that law should be changed, if you have an ICO with you I think that they should have the power to help retrieve (and drag! LOL) a downed deer so that it does not go to waste.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 25, 2006 18:12:51 GMT -5
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Post by retnuhreed on Nov 25, 2006 19:28:52 GMT -5
IC... Thanks for setting me straight!
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Post by drs on Nov 26, 2006 7:41:41 GMT -5
I was informed earlier today, that in Ky if a landowner doesn't give you permission to enter his property to find a deer, a CO doesn't have the power to let you recover the animal. Yesterday, a Fellow Hunter was bow hunting and connected with a HUGE 14 point non-typical buck 230 pound dressed weight. The Hunter shot the buck around 50 yards west of my property line, from his ladder stand. The buck ran upon my property. This very nice Hunter called to tell me what happened and him, his Father-in-law and I searched for the buck which we found on my property. The Hunter informed my Brother & I, before Deer Season, that he and another Hunter would be bow hunting and if something should happen that a Deer would end up on our property if he could have permission to retrive it. I said certainly, and if he needed any help to just give us a call and we would help them retrive their Deer. Like I said, he bagged a really nice buck that had 14 points plus one of the brow tines was double! I am not a "Headhunter" so I know little about scoring but I'd have to say this Buck is going to be the largest one taken in Vanderburgh County & "Non-Typical" according my judgement. |
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