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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Nov 13, 2006 13:42:22 GMT -5
Early reviews good on new deer restriction
(Waterbury, VT - AP) - The early reviews seem generally positive on Vermont's new rule against hunting yearling, or spikehorn, deer.
Hunters who took to the woods for the start of rifle season this weekend report seeing bigger and healthier deer, and some attribute that to a year-old ban on taking the young deer.
Wildlife officials caution that it will be years before the new rule's impact can be gauged accurately.
They note another factor may be helping this year's deer population — last winter was a mild one.
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Post by Decatur on Nov 13, 2006 13:59:12 GMT -5
I would say the mild winter played a bigger role than a rule that was in effect for 1 year!
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 13, 2006 14:08:37 GMT -5
I would say the mild winter played a bigger role than a rule that was in effect for 1 year! Give the man a ..... CEEEEGGGGAAAARRRR! Lots of variables at playy here. . |
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Post by kevin1 on Nov 13, 2006 15:14:24 GMT -5
I'll bet the meat hunters are very POed , dumb little spikes and buttons are easy freezer fillers .
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Post by hunter480 on Nov 13, 2006 18:04:42 GMT -5
Unbelievable-is there ANYWHERE guys can deer hunt anymore that they don`t have somebody`s deer management shoved on `em?
What happened to killing deer and just eating venison.
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Post by steiny on Nov 13, 2006 18:53:48 GMT -5
Dang 480, do any states rules suit you?
Used to be in Indiana, you couldn't shoot does, then somebody shoved doe hunting down our throats.
Used to be we couldn't hunt Sunday, then somebody shoved that down our throat.
Used to be we didn't need blaze orange, then somebody shoved that down our throat.
Used to be you couldn't hunt with a hand gun, then somebody shoved that down our throat.
What you call "shoving rules down your throat" others see as progress in the right direction, and the opportunities for killing deer and eating venison have never been better at any time in history.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 13, 2006 21:34:31 GMT -5
Dang 480, do any states rules suit you? Used to be in Indiana, you couldn't shoot does, then somebody shoved doe hunting down our throats. Used to be we couldn't hunt Sunday, then somebody shoved that down our throat. Used to be we didn't need blaze orange, then somebody shoved that down our throat. Used to be you couldn't hunt with a hand gun, then somebody shoved that down our throat. What you call "shoving rules down your throat" others see as progress in the right direction, and the opportunities for killing deer and eating venison have never been better at any time in history. AMEN......  |
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Post by indianahick on Nov 13, 2006 22:00:57 GMT -5
Dang 480, do any states rules suit you? Used to be in Indiana, you couldn't shoot does, then somebody shoved doe hunting down our throats. Used to be we couldn't hunt Sunday, then somebody shoved that down our throat. Used to be we didn't need blaze orange, then somebody shoved that down our throat. Used to be you couldn't hunt with a hand gun, then somebody shoved that down our throat. What you call "shoving rules down your throat" others see as progress in the right direction, and the opportunities for killing deer and eating venison have never been better at any time in history. All but the handgun I would consider progress. Handguns that use centerfire rifle cartridges are not good. Hopefully they will soon be outlawed. |
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 14, 2006 5:42:41 GMT -5
People that think one season of protecting spikes and yearlings had any measurable impact on the herd are fooling themselves. It's impossible.
Trying to turn Vermont into Illinois or Ohio through a buck restriction is silly. Illinois used to allow archers to shoot TWO bucks and gun hunters ONE, ( That's a total of three! ) and the state was still more known for trophies than most others.
I think what 480 was getting at was that we all seem obsessed with antlers these days. The Vermont rule is clearly an antler-oriented restriction, and has little to do with herd management. Some of us just like to hunt. Why should any hunter that paid his 24 dollars be told what to take? I spend all my bow season not shooting small bucks because of the OBR, only to see truck beds at check stations during firearms season full of them.
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Post by solohunter on Nov 14, 2006 6:06:54 GMT -5
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Post by Decatur on Nov 14, 2006 7:05:21 GMT -5
I spend all my bow season not shooting small bucks because of the OBR, only to see truck beds at check stations during firearms season full of them. |
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Post by steiny on Nov 14, 2006 18:28:12 GMT -5
You are free to shoot ONE of those small bucks, same as the dudes at the check station.
OBR In no way, shape or form tells you WHAT you can shoot .... it tells you HOW MANY. Just like the duck hunters, pheasant hunters, etc. have been dealing with for years.
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Post by hunter480 on Nov 14, 2006 18:34:20 GMT -5
Dang 480, do any states rules suit you? Used to be in Indiana, you couldn't shoot does, then somebody shoved doe hunting down our throats. Used to be we couldn't hunt Sunday, then somebody shoved that down our throat. Used to be we didn't need blaze orange, then somebody shoved that down our throat. Used to be you couldn't hunt with a hand gun, then somebody shoved that down our throat. What you call "shoving rules down your throat" others see as progress in the right direction, and the opportunities for killing deer and eating venison have never been better at any time in history. I`ll tell you exactly what suits me-and that is NOT having someone elses deer managment shoved on me and all the other guys who JUST WANT TO HUNT. That`s real cute the way you worded all the good stuff that`s happened as "being shoved down our throats", but that doesn`t fly-those things were good things haneded down to us-they have nothing to do with someone elses deer managment being pushed off on everybody. I have just as much right as you and greghopper to state the way I feel, and I WILL keep stating it. The damned obr taught me that. |
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Post by hunter480 on Nov 14, 2006 18:35:55 GMT -5
You are free to shoot ONE of those small bucks, same as the dudes at the check station. OBR In no way, shape or form tells you WHAT you can shoot .... it tells you HOW MANY. Just like the duck hunters, pheasant hunters, etc. have been dealing with for years.  |
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 14, 2006 18:39:57 GMT -5
You are free to shoot ONE of those small bucks, same as the dudes at the check station. OBR In no way, shape or form tells you WHAT you can shoot .... it tells you HOW MANY. Just like the duck hunters, pheasant hunters, etc. have been dealing with for years. The limits on duck and pheasants are for what reason? The health of the flock maybe? Explain to me how a one buck limit helps the health of the herd.. As Dr. Jim Mitchell said -"This is NOT a biological issue. It is a social issue." . |
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Post by steiny on Nov 14, 2006 18:56:01 GMT -5
You are correct that you have every right to state your opinion 480.
However, you are wrong when you position your opinion as if it is the "majority opinion" of folks on this board.
Many of us think some of these more recent changes in our regulations are good things and positive progress.
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Nov 14, 2006 19:11:13 GMT -5
Come on 2012,I want to see the results after 10 years of the OBR..That should be plenty of time to have some good data...I just can't see any big changes just after 1 year..
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 14, 2006 19:20:26 GMT -5
Come on 2012,I want to see the results after 10 years of the OBR..That should be plenty of time to have some good data...I just can't see any big changes just after 1 year.. "Data"..... smata..... It will still be a "social issue".... . |
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Nov 14, 2006 19:26:46 GMT -5
Come on 2012,I want to see the results after 10 years of the OBR..That should be plenty of time to have some good data...I just can't see any big changes just after 1 year.. "Data"..... smata..... It will still be a "social issue".... . Yeah I know.. |
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