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Post by lugnutz on Aug 1, 2006 18:47:08 GMT -5
How do you all feel about baiting deer during the season in Urban hunting zones?
Lug
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Post by hunter480 on Aug 1, 2006 18:55:22 GMT -5
I know I have to be careful because I get very passionate and emotional about things I believe strongly about, but, I believe baiting of any kind is completely wrong.
I know different areas have different game laws and different hunting traditions, but I just don`t believe it`s ethical.
If I were hunting for sustenance and depended on venison for ALL my food, that MIGHT be a different story, but none of us are so poor we depend on our kills entirely to feed us and our families.
Baiting is such an unfair tactic, and it requires no special skills.
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Post by lugnutz on Aug 1, 2006 19:15:25 GMT -5
I know I have to be careful because I get very passionate and emotional about things I believe strongly about, but, I believe baiting of any kind is completely wrong. I know different areas have different game laws and different hunting traditions, but I just don`t believe it`s ethical. If I were hunting for sustenance and depended on venison for ALL my food, that MIGHT be a different story, but none of us are so poor we depend on our kills entirely to feed us and our families. Baiting is such an unfair tactic, and it requires no special skills. I completely understand where your coming from, but something in these urban zones has to be done the deer are getting way too thick. Then again, if they're getting that thick, then you shouldn't have to bait them i suppose. Lug |
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Post by hoyt1166 on Aug 1, 2006 19:19:29 GMT -5
Lug,
Since your question was posed directly concerning urban zones, I'll address urban zones. I do not like baiting for deer in any ways for me. However, I think your limiting it to urban zones makes some sense in that the hunt is for one purpose and one purpose only, which is eradication. I also think it helps in that it may cause a concentration of deer at one point and I would think if you could draw the deer to an area outside of the "wandering eyes" of those who live in such a zone, it would be better off. I would think that in this case, I wouldn't personally have a problem with it.
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Post by jcceadotcom on Aug 1, 2006 20:01:16 GMT -5
Lets just leave the whole baiting can of worms un-opened.
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Post by danf on Aug 1, 2006 20:13:57 GMT -5
In Tippecanoe County, my only urban zone experience, so much of it isn't densely populated. Honesty, I can't see why almost *all* of Tippecanoe is UZ, but that's not for me to decide.  I don't see why baiting would be necessary anywhere, let alone in a UZ. If the area is densely populated, the deer will probably stick to travel routes pretty hard. Figure those routes out and you've got a deer, maybe 2 or 3 from the same spot.... |
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 1, 2006 20:45:42 GMT -5
Lets just leave the whole baiting can of worms un-opened. PASS... |
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Post by chicobrownbear on Aug 1, 2006 21:26:50 GMT -5
THey seem to like tulips an awful lot.
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Post by indianahick on Aug 2, 2006 0:48:38 GMT -5
Think I am just going to keep my mouth shut this time.
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Post by kevin1 on Aug 2, 2006 5:02:19 GMT -5
I don't see why baiting would be necessary anywhere, let alone in a UZ. If the area is densely populated, the deer will probably stick to travel routes pretty hard. Figure those routes out and you've got a deer, maybe 2 or 3 from the same spot.... That's just what I was thnking . |
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Post by Decatur on Aug 2, 2006 6:15:17 GMT -5
No comment.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Aug 2, 2006 11:29:07 GMT -5
No comment. I do not hunt UHZ's.
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Post by mbogo on Aug 3, 2006 5:34:38 GMT -5
Baiting wouldn't make much difference. Initially it would make things somewhat easier but that advantage would be short-lived. It doesn't take deer long to learn how to avoid hunters and no amount of any kind of food will help you once they are on to you. In the long run, baiting would probably end up making things worse.
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Post by Decatur on Aug 3, 2006 6:19:53 GMT -5
They still kill a TON of deer in Michigan over bait piles, and they've been doing it forever.
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Post by polypros on Aug 3, 2006 11:56:18 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with it except I'm just completely not down with doing it. I'm in the woods to come up with a strategy to hunt deer. If I want to feed the animals I can go to the zoo. If I want to see meat I can go to the butcher. I'm more into finding rubs and locating trails than dropping a bag of carrots in a pile.
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Post by mbogo on Aug 3, 2006 12:03:47 GMT -5
Baiting in areas of small tracts of lforest such as an UDZ is much different than baiting in the state of Michigan in general.
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Post by Decatur on Aug 3, 2006 12:13:23 GMT -5
How so? The deer in the UDZ may be visiting, and it may be the first time they have seen the bait. Whereas the deer in Michigan are subject to it everywhere.
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Post by Decatur on Aug 3, 2006 12:14:16 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with it except I'm just completely not down with doing it. I'm in the woods to come up with a strategy to hunt deer. If I want to feed the animals I can go to the zoo. If I want to see meat I can go to the butcher. I'm more into finding rubs and locating trails than dropping a bag of carrots in a pile. Amen! |
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Post by mbogo on Aug 3, 2006 12:53:17 GMT -5
How so? The deer in the UDZ may be visiting, and it may be the first time they have seen the bait. Whereas the deer in Michigan are subject to it everywhere. Deer react to pressure in small area more intensely than they do when that pressure is spread out in a much larger area. Even in the case of state like Michigan, baiting is not the magic bullet that it is cracked up to be. |
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Post by Hawkeye on Aug 3, 2006 12:53:54 GMT -5
Having hunted several years on large areas of leased land in South Texas where deer feeders were legal and accepted as the way to hunt,I have shot deer at the feeders,but never felt right about it. one time at a feeder at the crack of dawn there were Three very nice shootable Bucks walking around for me to pick and shoot. I said to myself is this really hunting. The last two years I hunted in Texas, Each of us on the lease had appox 300 acres to hunt, I only still hunted,more or less stalking the deer,I found that style of hunting much more gratifying and fun. That being said I have no problem with someone taking a deer over a feeder if in an area where it is legal.
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