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Oct 23, 2006 22:07:44 GMT -5
Post by deerdemon on Oct 23, 2006 22:07:44 GMT -5
This forum of deerhunters as well as gun enthusiasts seem to constantly decry the the IDHA is the whole problem with Indiana laws, hunting,leasing and pregnancy rates.
Can someone tell me why we are never allowed to see a post from a member of the IDHA? Is it a secret society?
As I set here in Montana and watch this site I only smile as I see a group of disgruntled individuals, maybe you should be called militia//////// or minute men!
You have fear of what you call an ineffective group, yet they seem to beat your every attempt to change publiuc opinion. Have you ever considered trying to become a partner? Each person has the duty to speak as a citizen or participant.
The leadership here has censored the IDHA, I have personally contacted the IDHA, carry on people!!!
How long before this post is removed, should you want to contact me......Humnbrds37@aol.com
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IDHA
Oct 23, 2006 22:13:19 GMT -5
Post by bsutravis on Oct 23, 2006 22:13:19 GMT -5
Censor the IDHA??? I'm not aware of ANYONE'S voice being banned or not welcome at this site. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.
Just cause this site isn't "sponsored" by the IDHA doesn't mean that members aren't allowed here or their voice isn't supposed to be heard.......at least I don't THINK that is the way it is here. Seems like the most friendly site I've ever been a part of or visited. Plenty of debate from time to time, but it's all in good sport generally.....
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IDHA
Oct 23, 2006 22:37:40 GMT -5
Post by Old Ironsights on Oct 23, 2006 22:37:40 GMT -5
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In all three posts today he succeded in being both insulting and uninformed. His previous two posts back on Sep 15 were nothing but gravedigging and contradict what he posted today (on the pistol carbine thread anyway.)
IMO he doesn't even appear to be worth the trouble of deleting - if only because that's what he wants.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 4:56:34 GMT -5
Post by cambygsp on Oct 24, 2006 4:56:34 GMT -5
I thought we did have some IDHA members posting on this site!
If your a IDHA member, yell out!
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 5:37:17 GMT -5
Post by mbogo on Oct 24, 2006 5:37:17 GMT -5
Well deerdemon, there are several members of the IDHA here that express their opinions regularly, there are even a couple of IDHA officials/officers, though you might not recognize them as they have different usernames here than on other sites, that pop in from time to time to promote various agendas. Considering the small number of active, paying IDHA members, the organization seems to be well represented here.
IDHA members are treated the same as everyone else, they are allowed to express their opinions and as in any debate are expected to back them up with facts. Some have had problems with this but, no free pass is granted simply for being a member of the IDHA or any other organization. The only time any member is censored is when they can not accept disagreement and resort to personal attacks.
Thank you for your concern about Indiana, the IDHA and our site in particular. I hope that clears up any questions you had. Next time please read the section titled "Please Read Before Registering" and PM myself or one of the other moderators about your concerns. Enjoy your time in Montana Joe.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 6:19:38 GMT -5
Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 24, 2006 6:19:38 GMT -5
This forum of deerhunters as well as gun enthusiasts seem to constantly decry the the IDHA is the whole problem with Indiana laws, hunting,leasing and pregnancy rates. Can someone tell me why we are never allowed to see a post from a member of the IDHA? Is it a secret society? As I set here in Montana and watch this site I only smile as I see a group of disgruntled individuals, maybe you should be called militia//////// or minute men! You have fear of what you call an ineffective group, yet they seem to beat your every attempt to change publiuc opinion. Have you ever considered trying to become a partner? Each person has the duty to speak as a citizen or participant. The leadership here has censored the IDHA, I have personally contacted the IDHA, carry on people!!! How long before this post is removed, should you want to contact me......Humnbrds37@aol.com Just because many of us here are not IDHA supporters, & could care less about the IDHA's operating platform, do not make claims that are not true abut our forum leadership. Feel free to post your opinions in a decent manner. Do not expect us to set still for folks that stir, and want us all to accept with open arms, all that you preach as gospel.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 7:11:27 GMT -5
Post by chicobrownbear on Oct 24, 2006 7:11:27 GMT -5
There are a lot of members here that also contribute to the IDHA site.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 7:59:30 GMT -5
Post by jackc99 on Oct 24, 2006 7:59:30 GMT -5
A lot....
HatchetJack
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 8:12:07 GMT -5
Post by pbr on Oct 24, 2006 8:12:07 GMT -5
deerdemon,
I fully do not understand why the administration of this site allows you to come on here and blast the way they run it. They run it just fine with no favoritism to anyone or editting out of opinions.
Nasty little cut downs? Yes, they get cut as they should. That is what we members want. Way too many other sites is a free for all with barbs being slung every which way all the time. That gets old very quickly.
That doesn't happen here and we appreciate it.
Now you can call that " censoring" if you wish, but you are way off base.
Maybe Hunting Indiana is just giving you enough rope to hang yoursefl with.
I think I read in the rules that if you have a problem with the way the site is run to PM one of the moderators and handle it that way.
The ONLY "censoring" that I have seen here is the editting of posts that were personal attacks. That is against the rules too.
Not one time has any post that I have seen been editted for the content. Just personal attacks.
A good number of us post here and the IDHA sponsored site - even making the very same copy and pasted posts. We've nothing to hide and some of us enjoy both sites.
But most of us enjoy this one more as it does NOT censor and is open minded to ALL sides of any issue.
Now if you are here to talk hunting and fishing, welcome. If not don't let the door hit you on the way out. We don't need pot stirrers that are here just for that purpose only.
Not sure what we do in Indiana would be a bother to someone all the way out in Montana??
Just MHO.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 8:33:59 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2006 8:33:59 GMT -5
I frequent all the Indiana hunting forums. I know that there are different core beliefs between them. They all serve a purpose. For my money, Woody does an excellent job of running this forum. It stays pretty cordial here most of the time, and if it starts heading down a nasty path, then Woody puts a stop to it. I for one appreciate that. This a very friendly board. If you don't agree with the overall tone of the discussions about controversial subjects on this board then for heaven's sake, don't let it get you down man! Go to another site and post there. If I don't like the tone of a thread on another site, I stop reading that thread. There is room on the web for more than one hunting forum.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 8:48:55 GMT -5
Post by hoyt1166 on Oct 24, 2006 8:48:55 GMT -5
Oh, I think deerdemon has got what she intended to get. Just throwing out a line and seeing what she snags. Fishing must be slow in Montana these days.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 8:56:16 GMT -5
Post by racktracker on Oct 24, 2006 8:56:16 GMT -5
DD,
You couldn't be any further off base than you are with those outlandish statements.
Not every website is for everyone and by going back and looking at your posts here it is pretty apparent that you are here for one reason only - to try and start trouble for the staff of Hunting Indiana. That seems to have backfired on you.
Maybe you would be happier on another Indiana site?
The Hunting Indiana staff runs a clean, knowledgable, informative and fun site. That is the way we like it - heated debates are OK, but slamming other members personally is not.
The only posts I see "censored" are posts that attacks others. I'm not sure why your's is still up, but that is not my call.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 9:42:01 GMT -5
Post by bsutravis on Oct 24, 2006 9:42:01 GMT -5
Why the heck would someone in Montana care about what's going on in an Indiana hunting forum? I have a feeling this guy is sitting somewhere within the state trying to stir the pot. He certainly isn't coming back on to discuss his opinions from what he originally posted. Looks like this is his first post in nearly a month!
Kinda funny to read this guys 40-somethin previous posts....half of which are negative to just about anything to do with Indiana hunting and the other half were attempts to win prizes from the site that he seems to loathe. Quick to bash this site, but always looking to pick up a free prize eh' Mr. Demon?
I'm sure that Woody has been reading every word that's been replied to your original post demon....and he hasn't yanked it yet like you claimed he would...... so....what now Mr. Demon???
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 9:48:56 GMT -5
Post by drs on Oct 24, 2006 9:48:56 GMT -5
Why the heck would someone in Montana care about what's going on in an Indiana hunting forum? I have a feeling this guy is sitting somewhere within the state trying to stir the pot. He certainly isn't coming back on to discuss his opinions from what he originally posted. I Agree!
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 9:57:01 GMT -5
Post by Woody Williams on Oct 24, 2006 9:57:01 GMT -5
Oh, I think deerdemon has got what she intended to get. Just throwing out a line and seeing what she snags. Fishing must be slow in Montana these days. I think that you could very well be correct in your statement. It appears that she snagged some that she couldn't reel in. For some of the new members that are doing a head scratching on this thread let me bring you up to date. No one, no matter what organization they belong to, has ever been censored on this forum because of their beliefs, EVER. However, personal attacks will not be tolerated in any shape or form. That is in the rules stated right up front. I believe that the "censoring" that deerdemon is posting about is the banning of an IDHA member who repeatedly ignored the rules and constantly made personal attacks against other members and the management of this board. After repeated warnings and a 30 day time out and more warnings he was permanently banned. We went the extra mile, but enough was enough. The banning of this individual ahd absolutely nothing to do with him being an IDHA member or his position on any subject. The motto of this site is "Be nice or be gone". He has since re-registered using another name(s) and played several "tricks" to re-stir up the pot. In the past I have received some nasty emails from him making all kinds of threats against this site. His email address is now blocked so I don't receive them anymore. Now, that is not censoring. It is called playing by the established and AGREED UPON rules. If one can not play by the rules here then we ask them to go find another more lenient site to play their personal attack games on. I have deleted and/or edited a couple/three posts on here that were directed at deerdemon personally. I am moving this thread from "Deer Hunting" as it is not about "deer hunting" and really serves no useful purpose.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 10:12:14 GMT -5
Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Oct 24, 2006 10:12:14 GMT -5
There was a time when I thought about joining the IDHA a few years back.After trying to have some discussions with good ol' JB a couple years ago on the old site,you couldn't pay me to join them.He was always the right one,and I was the one that didn't know what I was talking about.I prefer to stay in my own neck of the woods and do my own thing.I always get a craving for BLT's whenI read these threads...
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 10:43:56 GMT -5
Post by jstalljon on Oct 24, 2006 10:43:56 GMT -5
You and the moderators are doing a phenominal job with this site Woody....PERIOD!
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 12:23:37 GMT -5
Post by gundude on Oct 24, 2006 12:23:37 GMT -5
How could I pass up this thread? lol I am member of IDHA and I am a Moderator on their site. I have been censored here in the past. Sometimes maybe rightfully so and other times not. BUT it's not my site. REGARDLESS of that, I have noticed a trend among all the sportsmen orgs lately.( Not just IDHA and this board) It seems that we have divided ourselves over personal issues instead of working toward common goals. There seems to be an inability to put aside personal conflicts and come together when there is a serious issue we all face. I think it's foolish, self serving and a huge waste of time to argue which site is better. You will rarely if ever find someone banned over on the H.H. site. YOU will see someone get put in their place from time to time. NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR OPINION but because of their lack of supporting facts for those opinions. Sorry but I don't buy the fact that you have to agree with everything Joe Bacon says or thinks. I don't and I am not afraid to tell him so. It would seem to me that IF we all focused on the GOOD that Org has done for all of us instead of the minor points of personal disagreement we would all be better off.
Our sport will soon be facing some serious threats in the not so distant future and we all need to be willing to walk across the isle and work for a common good. Nothing wrong with debating the minor issues among ourselves but let’s not let such pettiness lead to our own demise. Some of us are very passionate about our beliefs. (Read some of my posts concerning “High Fence” shooting preserves!). It’s gonna be a cold day in hell before anyone sways me to the other side on that one and I’ll be danged if I let someone else get away with flat out lying about that issue. There are other issues that come to mind as well. OBR, Crossbows, Rifles, handguns, Inline muzzleloaders, the use of decoys, the kind of truck you drive, tastes great vs. less filling…….. The list never ends… The point is we better find a way to support each other or someday we won’t have anything left to argue about!
SO with that in mind I challenge anyone here to visit the other site. Got a disagreement then post it! Be sure of your facts and everything is just fine. I have seen many times when a thread just ends with an agreement to disagree. No harm no foul.
Hunt on…….
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 13:20:47 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2006 13:20:47 GMT -5
Not so, I've been banned there several times, currently for the duration. JB has also had me banned from the Bowsite several times as well. If you disagree with JB, your gone. Period.
As for supporting other sportsmen, wonder why the IDHA didn't think of that when they went after rabbit hunters. And you know their opinion of crossbow users. No need to say more until those two issues show some change.
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IDHA
Oct 24, 2006 13:28:55 GMT -5
Post by Woody Williams on Oct 24, 2006 13:28:55 GMT -5
Fellers..
We are NOT going to get into a site war whizzing match and basically give deer demon what she wants.
This thread has served absolutely no purpose since the very first post, so it is therefore closed as of now.
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