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Post by hoosierhunter06 on Jul 19, 2006 14:37:04 GMT -5
I was reading in a magazine that Iowa has a law where you can get your deer without asking permission from the land owner i think they have some restrictions but i think that would be a nice idea. I just think you should be able to tag the deer you shot and get to enjoy it. what do you all think.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 19, 2006 15:46:43 GMT -5
I think it's better to have to ask permission to enter anybody's land, for any reason, wounded deer or not. Without laws like this, can you imagine all of the a**holes who would say they wounded a deer just to hunt where ever they wanted. Most landowners are more than happy to let you trail a deer if asked before you ever set foot on their property.
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Post by dec on Jul 19, 2006 16:01:42 GMT -5
Yea, I'm kind of with Decatur on this one. I'd grant anyone who is congenial access onto my land to go retrieve their deer. I'd probably go with them to insure they did not mess around, but that is just me. I would never go and recover a deer on someone else's property without asking permission first. There is just too much risk involved. Go beyond the legality of it and think about it. You have no idea, there could be someone on that ground hunting. Not only could you mess up their hunt, but it would be my luck the guy would one of those that shoots without I.D.ing the target.
There is always the risk of a landowner not letting you have permission to get your deer. As unfortunate as that situation would be, no deer is worth the legal hastle or the possibility of getting hurt in the process.
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Post by RiverJim on Jul 19, 2006 17:44:19 GMT -5
[quote author=dec There is always the risk of a landowner not letting you have permission to get your deer. As unfortunate as that situation would be, no deer is worth the legal hastle or the possibility of getting hurt in the process.[/quote] 50/50 chance in Brown county. half are hunters and the other half are ANTIhunters ;D  |
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Post by indianahick on Jul 19, 2006 18:06:55 GMT -5
Personally I am with Decatur here, but in addition to asking for permission I also have been know to ask him to come along too. And I would say 90% of the time they just say go ahead, some say sure I will be more than happy to help and out comes a tractor. I had one woman whose husband was not home not only say okay but she saddled up a horse and used it to pull out my deer. Those that say a flat out no well then call the local Rabbit Ranger and have him go to the land owner. This one usually ends up feeding the hungry but that is okay too.
No I do not think that is necessarily a good idea. I think that the unscrupulous would use it as a way to hunt where ever they wanted and then there are those that would use it to go 4 wheeling. That is not to say that everyone would but we are all aware that there is those that would.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 19, 2006 19:02:49 GMT -5
In the 2006 - 2007 Hunting Guide it says: Do Not Trespass It is illegal to hunt, trap, chase or retrieve game on private land without the consent of the landowner or tenant. Always ask permission before entering private property. That is the way it should be.. . |
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Post by budfields on Jul 19, 2006 19:43:45 GMT -5
Hello Guys..
I had a situation occur in the late 1970's. I was bowhunting a friend's property. I shot a nice 9 pointer as it exited a cornfield and when the arrow hit it.. the buck went down hill and I heard water splashing.
Within a few moments, my friend's two sons came over to my tree and said they heard the buck crashing down the hill and crossing the creek. They "hoped" it did NOT cross to "Ol' Man Lyle's place.
We went back to the farm and informed my friend about the buck and he immediately telephoned Mr. Lyle and told him what had transpired. Mr. Lyle informed us to "STAY THE %#&( OFF HIS PROPERTY!!!"
We immediately went back to the scene and started tracking the buck and sure as heck.. it crossed on to Mr. Lyle's POSTED property. I left my bow on my friend's property and all I took with me was my hunting knife and drag rope.
We crossed the shallow creek and I quickly observed a red Ford pickup truck next to the fence. I came face to face with the cruelest man is Cass County. Mr. Lyle informed me I was "on his GOD-#@% property" and something to the effect "IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU..."
I politely informed him I had shot the buck on my friend's property and that made NO difference to him. we called me almost every obscene name in the book and threatened me IF I DID NOT leave.
We called the DNR and they dispatched an young officer and I indicated exactly where the buck was when I made the shot.. instant blood.. and how it went down the hill toward the creek and I also explained the situation as it happened with the landowner.
The officer stated he was satisfied I was NOT trespassing on Mr. Lyle's property BUT... even though the animal was shot on my friend's property, it came to rest on Mr. Lyle's property and that meant in ALL LEGAL terms... the deer belonged to Mr. Lyle.
Since my friend and Mr. Lyle were neighbors, I DID NOT want to create any animosity between them. Mr. Lyle did tell me IF I wanted the antlers, I could cut them off but the meat was ALL HIS!! He did have "landowner's rights" to the deer.
Folks, IF I was hunting with the intent of taking a deer from Mr. Lyle's property knowing it was posted and this happened, I would have said "FINE... I DESERVE TO LOSE THIS ANIMAL." I had full permission to hunt legally and ethically but the animal crossed the property line.
If Mr. Lyle had been destitute, crippled and really needing the venison, I would have GLADLY shared the meat with him but I later found out this A$$-HOLE hunted EVERYONE else's property with his friends and relatives and he is one of the biggest poachers in the area.
What I later discovered from a friend of mine that is a Conservation Officer in another county is the deer could have been confiscated by the officer and NEITHER one of us would have possessed the deer. My DNR friend told me he would have stuck the buck in his trunk and as he was driving down the road the deer would have "accidentally" fallen out with me behind him... and he would have "NEVER KNOWN IT..."
Hope none of you have this happen to you. It was certainly less than enjoyable.
GOOD HUNTING..
Bud Fields
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 20, 2006 8:23:45 GMT -5
Hello Guys.. I had a situation occur in the late 1970's. I was bowhunting a friend's property. I shot a nice 9 pointer as it exited a cornfield and when the arrow hit it.. the buck went down hill and I heard water splashing. Within a few moments, my friend's two sons came over to my tree and said they heard the buck crashing down the hill and crossing the creek. They "hoped" it did NOT cross to "Ol' Man Lyle's place. We went back to the farm and informed my friend about the buck and he immediately telephoned Mr. Lyle and told him what had transpired. Mr. Lyle informed us to "STAY THE %#&( OFF HIS PROPERTY!!!" We immediately went back to the scene and started tracking the buck and sure as heck.. it crossed on to Mr. Lyle's POSTED property. I left my bow on my friend's property and all I took with me was my hunting knife and drag rope. We crossed the shallow creek and I quickly observed a red Ford pickup truck next to the fence. I came face to face with the cruelest man is Cass County. Mr. Lyle informed me I was "on his GOD-#@% property" and something to the effect "IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU..." I politely informed him I had shot the buck on my friend's property and that made NO difference to him. we called me almost every obscene name in the book and threatened me IF I DID NOT leave. We called the DNR and they dispatched an young officer and I indicated exactly where the buck was when I made the shot.. instant blood.. and how it went down the hill toward the creek and I also explained the situation as it happened with the landowner. The officer stated he was satisfied I was NOT trespassing on Mr. Lyle's property BUT... even though the animal was shot on my friend's property, it came to rest on Mr. Lyle's property and that meant in ALL LEGAL terms... the deer belonged to Mr. Lyle. Since my friend and Mr. Lyle were neighbors, I DID NOT want to create any animosity between them. Mr. Lyle did tell me IF I wanted the antlers, I could cut them off but the meat was ALL HIS!! He did have "landowner's rights" to the deer. Folks, IF I was hunting with the intent of taking a deer from Mr. Lyle's property knowing it was posted and this happened, I would have said "FINE... I DESERVE TO LOSE THIS ANIMAL." I had full permission to hunt legally and ethically but the animal crossed the property line. If Mr. Lyle had been destitute, crippled and really needing the venison, I would have GLADLY shared the meat with him but I later found out this A$$-HOLE hunted EVERYONE else's property with his friends and relatives and he is one of the biggest poachers in the area. What I later discovered from a friend of mine that is a Conservation Officer in another county is the deer could have been confiscated by the officer and NEITHER one of us would have possessed the deer. My DNR friend told me he would have stuck the buck in his trunk and as he was driving down the road the deer would have "accidentally" fallen out with me behind him... and he would have "NEVER KNOWN IT..." Hope none of you have this happen to you. It was certainly less than enjoyable. GOOD HUNTING.. Bud Fields I had a simililar situation with the same kind of dude, with the very first buck I took. Of course I was just out of my teens, young, dumb, industructable, & feared nothing or no one. To make a long story short. I was by myself, knew the guy, & also tried the gentlemenly approach to no avail. I took my prized possession under the threats of the landowner. It got intense as he was packing a shotgun & all I had was my skining knife. The moment of truth came as we went face to face when I grabbed the antlers and started dragging the deer. I knew that this was not one of my brighter ideas, but it was my first buck & I was pumped. I knew I had no legal right to move the deer, but "darn-it" I was not going to roll over and give it up either. Landownwers "should" have the final say on their property, which makes this issue a toughy on downed game. |
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 20, 2006 8:37:25 GMT -5
In the 2006 - 2007 Hunting Guide it says: Do Not Trespass It is illegal to hunt, trap, chase or retrieve game on private land without the consent of the landowner or tenant. Always ask permission before entering private property. That is the way it should be.. . I totally agree . Last year a guy and his friend who were hunting an adjoining property during the bow season lost track of a doe that one of them had shot , and they came to my door and politely asked permission to check my property to see if they could find her . I replied that we hadn't seen it , but that they were more than welcome to look . He even went so far as to offer me a cut of the meat if they found her there , which I politely declined . That's how it should be done . |
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Post by hoosierhunter06 on Jul 20, 2006 21:20:40 GMT -5
taking about the same thing i had a guy steal a deer from me on a farmers property, the farmer was plowing his field when it happened and i was the only one he gave permission to only because i share the meat from deer i take on his property good trade i think, but the guy said it had a 38" spread the farmer didn't know who the guy was i would have loved to been happy that year with that buck i waited three year to take him and he was stole in two seconds.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 21, 2006 6:28:58 GMT -5
38" spread? You hunting elk?
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Post by jstalljon on Jul 21, 2006 8:35:32 GMT -5
I have always asked permission if a deer crosses a property line, and will continue to do so. It's happened on two occasions so far.
I approach the land owners home and immediately introduce myself, offer a handshake, and apologize for intruding.
I'll often comment on how beautiful their property is, explain which property I am from and where I was hunting in relation to theirs, and how the situation unfolded which has landed me on their doorstep.
I'll first ask if they would mind walking with me to track the deer, often times at that point they'll just say go ahead. Or they may decide to tag along. If they go with me. I take them directly to the spot where the deer crossed the property and offer to show them where I originally found blood on my property.
If they don't go with me, I always ask them how they would like me to "remove" the deer from their property. I don't "assume" I can just back my truck up anywhere I want, or drag the deer bag over the fence.
I always follow up too. Last year I took a nice plate of cookies and a thank you note to the property owner to again thank them for letting me locate and retreive a deer that had ran on to their property.
You'd be surprised how far a little respect shown for one's property will go.
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Post by oldblue on Jul 21, 2006 11:51:22 GMT -5
No.. it's not "a good idea .. I think."
Ask permission first.
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Post by indianahick on Jul 21, 2006 12:18:05 GMT -5
Bud, Hoosier- Having deer taken by unscrupulous people can and will happen anywhere. I know a gentleman that shot his first deer( a nice 8 point) several years ago. About 20 or so. When he went up to get it a guy came running out of the woods after he had put down his old T/C hawken and grabbed the antlers. While his friend holding a shotgun looked on. Can you imagine his surprise when he found a Colt 45 stuck to the end of his nose. Needless to say they dropped what they thought was an easy take and left fast. Oh the person with the 45 is a state policeman.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 21, 2006 23:12:06 GMT -5
kinda hard to ask permission if the land owner lives out-of-state.
Lug
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Post by jcceadotcom on Jul 24, 2006 4:53:20 GMT -5
kinda hard to ask permission if the land owner lives out-of-state. Guess then you would be out of luck. OR... maybe you could call or write him a letter before season starts. A persons land is their land. Period. |
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