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Post by 1ranger49 on Mar 29, 2006 11:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by kevin1 on Mar 29, 2006 14:04:57 GMT -5
And here I thought that I was the only one who went to Dr. Michel's site . ;D
I've seen that and similar articles , between them and my own informal testing I stopped buying carbon suits . Fortunately the ones I was buying were cheap , not those over priced commercial suits like ScentLok et al .
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 29, 2006 16:55:30 GMT -5
The link didn`t work for me-however, I`ve used the Scent-Loc liners for several years now, and have had very good success with them. Used in conjunction with laundering hunting garments in scent-free detergent, showering in scent free soap, and spraying myself and most equipment down with scent killer spray.
It`s known that charcoal absorbs orders, and I believe the military has used this, yes?
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Post by jrbhunter on Mar 29, 2006 19:05:26 GMT -5
I can't get to the article either but I have my opinion to share.
I am a believer that scent lock type clothing (Activated carbon) is the biggest ripoff the hunting public has ever seen. Scientific fact shows that carbon must be re-activated to captusre scent molecules after it fills up. Depending on the level of carbon used some needs recharged more often than others.... but at any rate the carbon cannot be effective for more than 24 hours!!!! That's right---- not just 100% but even considered affective. Period.
Then factor in that true activated carbon will draw moisture from the air and fill it's usefullness and you will find that it is sort of silly to think you can WASH the stuff and keep it active. Wearing it out on a foggy morning would shut down a carbon suit in less than one hour. Scientists say that there has never been a "Scent Lock" suit sold in the United States that has not been completely filled (Contaminated to the point of uselessness) as it sat on the truck and in the store before the hunter ever laid hands on it.
So just recharge it you say? Okay, heat up your camo to 1800 degrees and see what you have left. The army does use activated carbon clothing.... it is kept in vacuum sealed packages until it is ready for use then it is disgaurded after FOUR HOURS of use. Only the government has that kind of money and technology.
Now open the floodgates of sugar pill subscribers that say "IT WORKS FOR ME".
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Post by kevin1 on Mar 30, 2006 6:43:32 GMT -5
That's the kind of suits I was using , and I can verify their short lifespan . The first time I wore one I got good results , deer came close with the wind in their favor . The next day the same suit was worn after careful washing with scentless hunting detergent and cover scent sprayed on the outside and a deer spooked one for no apparent reason with the wind in it's favor . Since the standard issue Army chemical protective(MOPP) suit has roughly twice the amount of carbon that a commercial variety does this is particularly telling . The carbon in them is also not bonded to the fabric , so much more of it is exposed and therefore usable .
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Post by Decatur on Mar 30, 2006 7:16:28 GMT -5
I've never put much faith in those suits. I think it's just a big marketting ploy. Stay clean and hunt the wind and you'll be better off than having a false sense of security.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Mar 30, 2006 7:41:51 GMT -5
I use scent absorbing undergarments against the skin where human odor bacteria originates. As far as effectiveness, who knows for sure, but I have not experienced any negative effects.
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Post by dec on Mar 30, 2006 9:37:30 GMT -5
Exactly as jbrhunter described.
The only undeniable power that these scent lock suites have is the power to put money in the pockets of a couple guys in Muskegon, Michigan, who are laughing all the way to the bank.
100% total rip off.
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