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Post by hunter480 on Mar 23, 2006 14:31:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Greg! Here is an excerpt from an article that was written concerning Daniels, I do not know how accurate it is but here it is: Our Gov. Daniels' previous deals, other than public, which he did before becomming Governor was as listed below:
IPALCO-- Daniels reported a sound economic situation to stock holders, then sold his IPALCO stock for "ethics reasons". ..."retirees and workers lost millions when the new company's stock crashed. ... Daniels made a profit of more than $500,000 when he sold his IPALCO stock".Yeah-I`ve heard some of the rumors, and that is troubling. I admit, I haven`t looked into it more because I`m so preoccupied with all the pro-gun stuff. I hate to have blinders on, but I`ll worry about Second Amendment things, and trust that someone else is watching the rest. |
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Post by drs on Mar 23, 2006 14:41:03 GMT -5
Greg, You need to read the article in The American Rifleman April edition on page 14. The title is The Global War On Guns. Article reports about the U.N.'s Plan To Destroy The Bill Of Rights.
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 23, 2006 14:59:30 GMT -5
Greg, You need to read the article in The American Rifleman April edition on page 14. The title is The Global War On Guns. Article reports about the U.N.'s Plan To Destroy The Bill Of Rights. I get American Hunter instead of American Rifleman. In fact I just got it from the mailbox. I am aware however that the un has been trying to ratify a global ban on civilian possession of small arms. Plenty of sportsmen aren`t aware of this. The other thing I find very frustrating, is that as I read posts on other message boards and forums, a surprising number of sportsmen believe the Second Amendment is somehow tied to hunting. That`s a dangerous misconception. |
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Post by drs on Mar 23, 2006 15:14:25 GMT -5
I've also read such posts on other forums. I agree that those who believe the Founding Fathers tied "Sport Hunting" to the Second Amendment are very wrong. The Second Amendment has NOTHING to do with Hunting. It's the RIGHT of the average Citizen to "Keep & Bear Arms" in this Country.
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Post by snakeeye on Mar 23, 2006 18:49:53 GMT -5
Yea, drs is right! Mitch's resume is definitely lacking, and he has done absolutely nothing to help Indiana, plus he has no political clout, especially in DC. Indiana should try to get Feinstein, Schumer, Clinton (Hillary or Slick Willy) or Kennedy! I apologize for my previous statement--My Man Mitch rules! Sorry, drs...
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Post by duff on Mar 23, 2006 19:31:23 GMT -5
Well DRS if you believe those polls then more power to you.
I guess sometimes the right thing to do isn't always popular. If he was concerned with re-election or popularity polls Indiana would be dealing with more of the same stuff from the previous Gov.
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Post by jaybob on Mar 24, 2006 5:22:41 GMT -5
I agree with drs. I think this is a big buisness man that in 4 yrs will do more to hurt sportsmen as help.
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Post by drs on Mar 24, 2006 7:33:55 GMT -5
Well DRS if you believe those polls then more power to you. I guess sometimes the right thing to do isn't always popular. If he was concerned with re-election or popularity polls Indiana would be dealing with more of the same stuff from the previous Gov. Polls are Polls and that is the only thing we can go by. I am a lot older than you and have seen many Governors come and go. Some were very good and some were (like the present, and the past two) weren't "Governor Materal". I think I'll stick to my opinions and you stick to whatever you believe. |
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Post by gundude on Mar 24, 2006 7:57:11 GMT -5
Lets see, under the leadership of Mr. Daniels the following things have been done. ( I probabaly missed a few) The Goose pond property is now open to the state. Lifetime carry permits are now avaiable Kids have a free period to hunt and learn about our sport The zoo shoot operators will soon be shut down HB 1028 was passed. Now you can shoot back! A new forestry plan is now being worked out that will generate revenue to aquire more properties while creating much needed habitat for wildlife. YEA YOUR RIGHT! THIS GUY DOES SUCK!   Seems like some folks wouldn't know a ggod thing even when it was laid right square in their lap! |
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Post by drs on Mar 24, 2006 8:08:47 GMT -5
Okay, tell that to about 85% of the voters. |
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Post by gundude on Mar 24, 2006 8:25:56 GMT -5
Do you EVER give credit where credit is due? I don't agree with the GOV. on everything. ( daylight savings comes to mind) But good lord man can you not give the guy credit when he does something right? I always make it a point to thank someone for their efforts when they do the right thing. EVEN when I bitterly disagree with them on some other issue. I am sure that there are a few here that could testify to that fact.....
Daniels has done some GREAT things for us and he should recognized for it, not just trashed because of the few things he hasn't done for YOU!
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Post by drs on Mar 24, 2006 8:50:56 GMT -5
Do you EVER give credit where credit is due? I don't agree with the GOV. on everything. ( daylight savings comes to mind) But good lord man can you not give the guy credit when he does something right? I always make it a point to thank someone for their efforts when they do the right thing. EVEN when I bitterly disagree with them on some other issue. I am sure that there are a few here that could testify to that fact..... Daniels has done some GREAT things for us and he should recognized for it, not just trashed because of the few things he hasn't done for YOU! YES, I've given credit when things or issues are handled in the right manner. YES, I support his standing on the Second Adm. and the two gun bill he recently signed. However he has been in office for a very shot time and he has already fell out-of-favor with many voters here in Indiana. Both Republicans & Democrats. For one thing he is all about BIG BUSINESS given his background, and he is not too supportive toward protecting the enviornment or the average Hoosier. These two gun bills he signed into law are more or less just like a "Carrot-and-stick" dangling in front of a Donkey type leadership. There's more to govern a State than signing two bills into law for a certain segment of the population. |
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Post by duff on Mar 24, 2006 10:54:20 GMT -5
The credit given to Daniels on the I-69 deal is not giving the right people credit. Wasn't it the former Obanion, or Kernan that made this deal. Mitch just is in charge of making it happen, which he is doing faster then anyone ever expected. I thought it was a bum deal when the plan was made a few years ago, but nothing we can do about it now. At least Mitch has the ability to make it happen, probably saving the State untold amount of money by doing it now instead of planning for 25 yrs.
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Post by snakeeye on Mar 24, 2006 16:53:24 GMT -5
These are a few of my recent Mitch-related observations:
500 high tech jobs to Zimmer in Warsaw
$4 million for the Wabash River and Loblolly Marsh restoration projects (40% of the total national pot of special USDA cash)
Elimination of very high paid managerial State workers
Goose Pond/Beehunter Marsh (8k+ acres)
Northern Indiana got the largest RV (temporary housing) contract in the nation for Katrina victims
Banning smoking at the Gov't Center (increased productivity/possibly lower health care costs with regard to State workers)
Strong-arming Bart and the libs in Indy on social program and stadium payment issues
Strong-arming the legislature to make change to benefit us all
Unemployment rate going down
Performance based raises and accountability for State workers
Apparent balanced budget
1000 Toyota jobs to Lafayette
Tax Amnesty Program
Property Tax Relief
Health Savings Account for State workers (decrease health care costs)
Reshaping of State government (efficiency)
Toll road lease (less State workers and a lotta cash), better us than another competing state
Time change might make us more competitive business-wise, nothing to lose
Closing superfluous BMVs (save cash/less State workers)
Heavily promoting agriculture (factory farms, dry aged beef, E85, biodiesel, etc.)
World's largest biodiesel plant to Claypool
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Post by snakeeye on Mar 24, 2006 17:04:40 GMT -5
I recently saw George H.W. Bush speak locally, and he had nothing but great things to say about Mitch, both professionally and personally; former prez Bush has been the most qualified president in my lifetime, so his words carry a lot of weight with me. Also, Mitch is the most qualified governor we've had in my lifetime. The last 2 govs were career political hacks, and they didn't accomplish much of anything, and I was paying attention 'cause I worked for them.
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Post by jaybob on Mar 24, 2006 18:07:43 GMT -5
I recently saw George H.W. Bush speak locally, and he had nothing but great things to say about Mitch, both professionally and personally; former prez Bush has been the most qualified president in my lifetime, so his words carry a lot of weight with me. If you think Bush is the most qualified and the best president in your lifetime then you will Love your man Mitch. If he has the same views as uncle George then Indiana will be in great shape in a few more years. |
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 24, 2006 18:39:58 GMT -5
I recently saw George H.W. Bush speak locally, and he had nothing but great things to say about Mitch, both professionally and personally; former prez Bush has been the most qualified president in my lifetime, so his words carry a lot of weight with me. Also, Mitch is the most qualified governor we've had in my lifetime. The last 2 govs were career political hacks, and they didn't accomplish much of anything, and I was paying attention 'cause I worked for them. Just my opinion, but Pres. Reagan was the man, easily one of the greatset Presidents in modern times. Now-Governor Daniels, he didn`t  away a billion dollar surplus like obannon-did he? |
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Post by snakeeye on Mar 24, 2006 19:37:22 GMT -5
Don't forget who Reagan's right-hand man was...
I rest my case...
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 24, 2006 21:54:58 GMT -5
Greg, You need to read the article in The American Rifleman April edition on page 14. The title is The Global War On Guns. Article reports about the U.N.'s Plan To Destroy The Bill Of Rights. Drs-The article you mentioned happens to be in American Hunter as well. It should be any eye opener for all of us. I can`t believe some people still don`t freaking get it, there are organized forces out there who want to disarm us, and some are putting their heads in the sand. It`s an excellent article, and just one more reminder why it`s critical that we all are NRA members-Not an option-Mandatory! |
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Post by Russ Koon on Mar 24, 2006 23:54:40 GMT -5
Both measures are good steps, I think. I do have some of the same reservations that Kevin expressed above, but I'll take the risk for the ability to carry legally. I suspect if it ever got to the point where the government was using the lifetime carry permits to track down the owners, we'd see it coming in time to be burglarized and report them missing, and we'd be back in the same boat as now. Still better to be judged by twelve than carried out by six.
At my age, there probably won't be that great an advantage to the lifetime permit, but I expect I'll get one anyway, just to skip the process next time I forget to renew, like I did last time.
Glad to see our state taking the lead in the lifetime permits, and glad for all the younger folks who will get lots more from it, if they can hang on to it.
The national trend was towards more carry permits, and "no retreat necessary" laws, anyway, but it's good to see us get in there without being dragged into it.
Hope we can get some more good changes out of Mitch before we have to can him for the DST and the Toll Road to Nowhere 8^).
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