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Post by Woody Williams on May 29, 2024 7:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on May 29, 2024 10:19:24 GMT -5
That's a big "if" and only in Corporate United States of America, not the Republic of America. The CUSA will not last much longer.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 29, 2024 10:29:41 GMT -5
Jonathan Turley inside court: Judge delivers coup de grace instruction to jurors
Merchan just delivered the coup de grace instruction. He said that there is no need to agree on what occurred. They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices. Thus, this means that they could split 4-4-4 and he will still treat them as unanimous...
-- Jonathan Turley, constitutional law attorney and FNC contributor
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Post by Ahawkeye on May 29, 2024 12:08:58 GMT -5
DJT is not my favorite person in the world but he is MUCH better than Joe and company. If DJT gets convicted and is somehow bared from running the Right will have something to say. And as we all know they have a LOT of firepower. It could get very interesting if things go bad for The Don.
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Post by astronankin on May 31, 2024 12:33:53 GMT -5
Looks like things went as the Left wanted yesterday. Saw the headlines and wow, it still surprised me a little because the very things they accused Trump of doing wee things their star witness Cohen admitted to doing himself in court. I heard about his testimony on the radio the day it happened. I started wondering if he was the catalyst for this hush money stuff, not Trump. Given that he basically said in court he was the one who did the money transfer, etc. and some of it at least was done without Trump's knowledge.
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Post by bill9068 on Jun 1, 2024 7:34:16 GMT -5
I believe 12 people just got Trump re-elected.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 1, 2024 9:50:12 GMT -5
The next question is - Will the judge figure out a way to keep Trump off the campaign trail?
Jail (cant campaign at all) or probation... where his hand picked Democrat probation officer can keep him bottled up.
Make no mistake about it.. This trial is ALL about keeping him out of the Whitehouse.
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Post by greyhair on Jun 1, 2024 10:29:03 GMT -5
My problem is this - for some, the situation is no longer about loyalty to the Constitution, the country, the Bible, or conservative Republican values - it is about absolute unquestioning loyalty to one single individual
regardless of anything they say or do.
I have no problem with people believing in conservative (or liberal) ideas as long as it is about the ideas. This is about primary loyalty to one man above all else, and that is dangerous.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jun 1, 2024 10:43:31 GMT -5
He has made a mockery of our voting institution and now the courts and justice system.
No man is above the law. Like it or not.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 1, 2024 11:02:05 GMT -5
My problem is this - for some, the situation is no longer about loyalty to the Constitution, the country, the Bible, or conservative Republican values - it is about absolute unquestioning loyalty to one single individual regardless of anything they say or do. I have no problem with people believing in conservative (or liberal) ideas as long as it is about the ideas. This is about primary loyalty to one man above all else, and that is dangerous. Not for me. Trump is a typical New Yorker..brash beyond measure man. I don’t care for that aspect of him but I have to admit. ..he is a fighter. For me it strictly a comparison of his term versus Biden’s. I want more of his term and none of what Biden has brought us. I see Biden as much more a threat to our country than Trump. He has overruled by EOs since day one. That’s as close to a dictator as one can get. Plus - Biden is doing good to finish his first term. He would not make it through the 2nd term, guaranteed , and we would be stuck with the Cackler. I would enthusiastically support most of the Republican presidential candidates over Biden, with the exception o Christy. |
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Post by bill9068 on Jun 1, 2024 11:04:50 GMT -5
My problem is this - for some, the situation is no longer about loyalty to the Constitution, the country, the Bible, or conservative Republican values - it is about absolute unquestioning loyalty to one single individual regardless of anything they say or do. I have no problem with people believing in conservative (or liberal) ideas as long as it is about the ideas. This is about primary loyalty to one man above all else, and that is dangerous. I judge a man by past deeds. When Trump was president he checked all the boxes for restoring/rebuilding this country after years of neglect by other presidents. Trump’s 1st term in office the country was safer more prosperous than any modern president. He rebuilt the military, got oil and coal production booming so we had lower energy all around, I could keep going but your bank account today is your answer. If you or anyone else feels Biden is the answer to your or this country’s problems then vote for him, my vote is going to Trump for what his track record has been. |
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Post by stevein on Jun 1, 2024 11:11:09 GMT -5
If he had kept his hands off her none of this would be happening.
ALL he had to do is come out and admit to his transgressions and IMHO he still would have been elected. I do believe this trial was political but he brought it down on himself.
His attempt to get results changed Georgia are far more concerning to me.
I have listened to his Jan 6? speech and he all but told the crowd to go to the Capitol. He had to know who was there and what the results would be.
Sorry if this offends some but I firmly believe the last to acts alone are enough to loose any support I might have given Trump.
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Post by beermaker on Jun 1, 2024 11:33:30 GMT -5
Unless I have missed something,almost all legal "experts" including those on CNN and some of Trump's harshest critics, have said this trial was a political sham.
"No one is above the law?" Unless your last name is Kennedy, Clinton,or Biden.
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Post by bill9068 on Jun 1, 2024 11:57:11 GMT -5
Unless I have missed something,almost all legal "experts" including those on CNN and some of Trump's harshest critics, have said this trial was a political sham. "No one is above the law?" Unless your last name is Kennedy, Clinton,or Biden. You didn’t miss anything. I believe it’s just like a saying my mom had when I was a youngster “ garbage in-garbage out”. If a person only watches or listens to one perspective aka CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, NBC etc, then that what they become, a mouthpiece for that viewpoint. I listen to all news sources and can understand what’s news and what is propaganda. If in this day and age a person thinks the news media is not bias towards conservatives, they need to talk to a shrink because they have become brainwashed. |
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Post by bill9068 on Jun 1, 2024 12:07:10 GMT -5
While the thought is still n my head, did anyone else notice there were no riots or violent protests after the Trump verdict? I wonder what would have happened if he was found innocent? That’s the difference between the Liberals and Conservatives.
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Post by jtkelly on Jun 1, 2024 13:21:55 GMT -5
My problem is this - for some, the situation is no longer about loyalty to the Constitution, the country, the Bible, or conservative Republican values - it is about absolute unquestioning loyalty to one single individual regardless of anything they say or do. I have no problem with people believing in conservative (or liberal) ideas as long as it is about the ideas. This is about primary loyalty to one man above all else, and that is dangerous. It isn't a choice between Trump above all else. It is Trump or MORE Biden, More cackle brain Harris. It is murdering more babies, more pathetic perverts all over the country, continue the communist forces walking take over at the border... or Trump. |
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Post by steiny on Jun 1, 2024 13:22:30 GMT -5
I didn't want Trump to be the nominee because of all the baggage like this he brings with him and there are simply a whole lot of people that just hate the man regardless of his policies. Unfortunately he is the best choice available presently because Biden and his policies are complete train wreck.
His following has the swamp rats scared and I suspect they will jail him or possibly even make him go away Clinton style before the election.
Would be smart business for the RNC to have a solid backup individual ready to go, but I don't have much faith in the RNC.
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Post by greyhair on Jun 1, 2024 15:03:48 GMT -5
There were no riots - maybe the Proud Boys and the like are getting disillusioned? Or maybe the public in general is so over loaded with this loooong-running drama that they don't care anymore?
Maybe the most radical are secretly planning...
Always be vigilant...and armed
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Post by jtkelly on Jun 1, 2024 16:11:53 GMT -5
The truest way you can judge a man is by who his enemies are and who hates him most.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS A LIE, but you can trust hate.
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Post by esshup on Jun 1, 2024 16:37:06 GMT -5
Unless I have missed something,almost all legal "experts" including those on CNN and some of Trump's harshest critics, have said this trial was a political sham. "No one is above the law?" Unless your last name is Kennedy, Clinton,or Biden. I'd love to start a poll to see how many of us here have known as many people die as the Clintons have, let alone die under suspicious circumstances? If the Republicans were as organized as the Dems, and would use the skeletons as the Dems have to be using them, just think how many Dems would be in the greybar hotel by now? |
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