The Bellar video

Update:
The wife asked to watch the video , she made me turn it off just over halfway through . This is a woman who is neutral toward hunting , though I have hope , and she couldn't stand to watch the whole thing . She has already attended one DNR meeting at Indy for a rules proposal session , Woody and JB may remember meeting her and my grandson , so maybe I can get her to go to more of them now that she has "seen the face of the enemy" and now has an opinion .

Remember fellas , it isn't just the other hunters that we need to educate . The vast majority of the folks who will decide our future will never hunt a day in their lives , and they are by far the best allies that we will ever have as long as we stay in their good graces and keep their eyes open . Do your part to keep hunting alive and viable .

Ive been making copies of the video to give to unknowing hunters in my area. I am also forwarding a few copies to a few legislators as I believe this whole thing will be thrown back in thier lap next year......

Didn't the DNR promise a STATEMENT on the high fence issue before the end of this month?........... The clock is ticking.....

However, they say that we cant hold all liable for the sins of one.


Wanna bet ?

Since "the one" in this case was touted by his own foul industry as being the model from which all the others should be judged I feel it only fair that the rest of them should be shut down permanently as Bellar's Place has been . ;D

It sounds more like sour grapes . Maybe he wants to hunt the farmer's place on those permits but the guy won't let him because he doesn't like him for being a pushy azzhole . Some people are just funny that way ...

OK IM AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I posted the wrong link. ( although the one I posted was interesting)........ SORRY.............. Here is what I ment to post...



Posted on Thu, Jul. 28, 2005



Elk among prey at DeKalb fenced preserve

By Kara Hull
The Journal Gazette

ST. JOE – The owners of an elk ranch are pleased that they got county approval to open a high-fenced hunting preserve just before a state announcement that could ban this type of hunting facility in Indiana.

Richard and Rebecca Reed, owners of R&R Elk Ranch and Campground, 6144 County Road 64 in St. Joe, will be the first to open a hunting preserve in DeKalb County when guided hunts of their own elk plus Russian boars, pheasants, quail and chukars begin in September. The DeKalb County Board of Zoning Appeals approved the Reeds’ project Monday night.

Although the Department of Natural Resources does not regulate elk, the Reeds are one of several cases the agency has seen recently opening high-fenced hunting preserves in the state in a possible rush to get established before a decision is made by the end of next month.

The ranch did have to get state shooting licenses for the birds they plan to use and the 8-foot fences around the almost 150-acre preserve were inspected and approved by the DNR, Rebecca Reed said Wednesday. The preserve is about a mile from their home and ranch office, near Riverdale Elementary School.

Linnea Petercheff, an operations staff specialist with the Division of Fish and Wildlife, said Wednesday she knows of two others who have bought land with the intention of opening a fenced-in hunting preserve, especially for white-tailed deer. Most of the inquiries the DNR has gotten recently about opening these hunting facilities have come from people living outside Indiana, she said.

Business owners, hunters and DNR officials alike are all playing the waiting game with high-fenced hunting until next month’s decision. It’s impossible to say whether operations that have already been approved and are following DNR regulations would be “grandfathered” in and allowed to stay in operation or compensated to close if the department decides to end this type of hunting, Petercheff said.

Although hunting behind fenced-in enclosures has been a hot topic in the state for years, the reason for the squabbling is simple, said Gene Hopkins, legislative chairman for the Indiana Bow Hunters Association. His organization is against fenced-in hunting because it gives hunters an unfair advantage, he said.

“It’s not as divisive an issue as you’ve got one side with a very vested financial interest,” he said. “It’s harder for us to get people fired up and at meetings all the time because this is a hobby. For those other people, this is their job.”

For the Reeds, opening a hunting preserve is vital to get back the money they lost when the state stopped all elk and elk meat from being transported across state lines to stop the spread of disease. The Reeds have been raising and breeding elk since 1997 on their ranch and had been buying and selling the animals and their meat and antlers in other states. The Reeds now have 47 elk on their ranch.

“This is kind of a way for us to get our money back,” she said.

And for that, the Reeds are willing to play the waiting game, Rebecca Reed said.

“Since we’ve already been approved by the board and approved by DNR, it’s just kind of a wait and see,” she said. “We assured the board that whatever DNR would come up with that’s what we’re going to follow.”

I know Jack, your right about that............. I just wish every single person that hunts would take the time to educate themselves about this issue and then take the time to do something about it............... Its the same old same old....... Ill let so and so do it...... Thats why we are in the mess we are in today..............

Cant Believe I posted the wrong link!!!!!!!!... maybe I am human ;D

PM me your snail mail address and will..

What do you mean "coming" , Camby ? They're already here . There's a place to hunt exotics , another to hunt elk , the list goes on . Whitetails steal the thunder because they're a heavily regulated game animal , the rest are little more than livestock in the eyes of the law since they're non-native species .