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Post by parrothead on Oct 4, 2023 5:40:12 GMT -5
From another site:
Sunday morning was the bow opener in Michigan. I dressed and then loaded my crossbow in my hunting shed a half hour before sunrise. I walked out to my two-man ladder stand and climbed up with just my backpack on. I pulled the loaded bow up and set it on the outside rail. I stepped down two steps on the ladder to set my pad in place for my skinny back end to sit on. Unfortunately, the loaded Tenpont crossbow with an EVO broadhead slipped off the rail, fell on the seat, and then landed on the base. The safety was on, but it discharged.
The arrow went through high on my left butt cheek and exited low on the same cheek. The broadhead grazed my right butt cheek. I knew something was wrong when I heard it discharge. I reached down my left side to feel the stinging. I saw blood and immediately started climbing down. I started walking back to camp and dialed 911 and told them I shot myself, all the while, I could feel the warm blood running down my right leg like I just peed myself.
The ambulance arrived about 15 minutes later. I knew the ambulance techs and firefighters were deer hunters because they came in with sirens off and just the lights on. The med tech told me I had lost a lot of blood. I arrived at the hospital about 40 minutes later and was greeted by the entire trauma staff. They treated me well, but the doc didn't stitch me because a small amount of cloth was lodged in me.
The pain is not as bad right now. Two days later and I'm still bleeding. The worst part is removing the dressings. The hair on my back end doesn't like the tape.
When I heal and go back out, I'll cock the bow before I walk out, pull it up, and then hang it on a hook before I put the arrow on the flight groove. Until then, I'll enjoy eating ice cream on my belly like Forrest Gump while my skinny back end heals.
I left the bow and my backpack in the stand. My hunting buddy went out later to retrieve everything and follow my blood trail. The arrow was broken in three places with flesh and blood on the last piece of the arrow. The nock was bent and destroyed. My only guess is that the arrow slipped forward before the bow fired. What i can't understand is why the crossbow is still in the safety position. Has anyone ever dropped a crossbow and had it fire?
Be safe out there. This could have been a lot worse, and I'm blessed to be typing this right now. The trauma doc said this was the luckiest of unlucky shots that could ever happen.
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Post by parrothead on Oct 4, 2023 5:41:12 GMT -5
Of course everyone was saying why was it loaded. Lucky guy.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 4, 2023 5:47:58 GMT -5
A hard lesson learned no doubt. Hopefully he recovers well and gets the chance to get back out there.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 4, 2023 5:58:23 GMT -5
Of course everyone was saying why was it loaded. Lucky guy. Yes there isn’t a need to nock an arrow unless your completely in place or bow on a hanger IMO No need to have anything loaded going up or down or lowering it up or down…..No arrow nocked no gun with round in chamber. That how I roll anyway.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 4, 2023 6:34:41 GMT -5
If you watch the TV hunting shows most don't load the bolt until it's time to shot. A lot of compound bow hunters do the same. Even the long range shooters load when ready to shoot. Not sure what this guy was thinking.
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Post by parrothead on Oct 4, 2023 6:34:43 GMT -5
Being serious I wonder how much worse it would of been with a mechanical head. Evo has 1 1/8" cutting dia.
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 4, 2023 6:36:08 GMT -5
IMO, Too many things to go wrong with hoisting / lowering a loaded crossbow to even consider doing that. In fact, now that I own one, I feel like the crossbow is the most dangerous to me weapon that I own. I have enormous respect for it.
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Post by esshup on Oct 4, 2023 7:03:45 GMT -5
Of course everyone was saying why was it loaded. Lucky guy. exactly. you can't get complacent about safety when it comes to weapons.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 4, 2023 8:55:41 GMT -5
Yes…
NEVER pull up a loaded crossbow or gun into your stand. Only after you are in the stand and SETTLED in do you load an arrow or cartridge .
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Post by stevein on Oct 4, 2023 11:26:16 GMT -5
I hunted ONCE with a guy that thought the double set triggers on a TC Hawken were the safety.
I know a lot of guys fear hunting public land. But the majority of hunting accident reports I see are self inflicted, falls from a stand, or by a hunting partner.
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Post by stevein on Oct 4, 2023 11:34:24 GMT -5
For my muzzle loaders I placed a bright color piece of leather between the hammer and the nipple. I hoisted it up muzzle down and lowered it the same. My flintlock I made a hammer stall. A leather cover that goes over the frizzen with a copper vent plug. The stall prevents sparks 100%.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Oct 4, 2023 12:43:11 GMT -5
I had a teacher back in high school, her brother was killed bringing his gun up while loaded, this was back in the early 80's when it happened. He was hunting with a semi auto shotgun, not sure how it all happened but he was hit several times.
She kind of baited the guys in class, it was just before the gun opener, in an excited voice she asked everyone to raise their hands if they were going hunting this weekend. Of course the guys raised their hands, half of them expecting a debate on animal rights or something. We sat and listened to her brother's story. At the end she told us to have fun, enjoy the woods, and time with family BUT.... She said sternly, unload that gun before climbing that tree. Even though Dad taught me way before hearing her story I think of her and her family every time I'm at the base of my tree.
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Post by parrothead on Oct 4, 2023 12:51:31 GMT -5
I still remember when I was in 8th grade two boys in my class were out with 22s. One slipped and accidentally shot the other boy and killed him. Brad Fouts. Will never forget that
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 4, 2023 12:53:41 GMT -5
I had a teacher back in high school, her brother was killed bringing his gun up while loaded, this was back in the early 80's when it happened. He was hunting with a semi auto shotgun, not sure how it all happened but he was hit several times. She kind of baited the guys in class, it was just before the gun opener, in an excited voice she asked everyone to raise their hands if they were going hunting this weekend. Of course the guys raised their hands, half of them expecting a debate on animal rights or something. We sat and listened to her brother's story. At the end she told us to have fun, enjoy the woods, and time with family BUT.... She said sternly, unload that gun before climbing that tree. Even though Dad taught me way before hearing her story I think of her and her family every time I'm at the base of my tree. I'm glad she didn't put undue blame where it did not belong!
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 4, 2023 13:34:02 GMT -5
I hunted ONCE with a guy that thought the double set triggers on a TC Hawken were the safety. I know a lot of guys fear hunting public land. But the majority of hunting accident reports I see are self inflicted, falls from a stand, or by a hunting partner. Oh my… remembering my TC Hawken when the set trigger was pulled the fire trigger was a hair trigger. Breathe on it and it was boom. Most deer hunting accidents are falls from trees..
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 4, 2023 13:57:42 GMT -5
My crossbow is pulled back with no arrow, safety on when raising or lowering. Gun is always empty with safety on.
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Post by astronankin on Oct 4, 2023 14:10:22 GMT -5
Ouch! This is why I take my bolt out of the cocked crossbow before getting up into the stand and before lowering the crossbow. As for guns... I load mine before heading into the woods, have the primer in (you know, just in case I run into my quarry on the way in), primer gets taken out (if I have it in) before I head up, taken out (if it hasn't been shot) before I lower the gun. Then put back in during the trip back to the vehicle. I did get lucky once and was up at the truck getting a drink of water when the tree stand I had been in with my dad fell to one side. I didn't hear it happen, etc, but got back to find Dad up in the stand tightening straps? Well this ladder stand had been put in a good spot with a good tree but the slope there was a bit treacherous. We didn't realize that we put the straps on too loose when putting the stand up, and after hunting there a few times they came undone and the stand pitched to one side with my Dad in it (luckily slightly uphill, not downhill, and into a cushion of still-green honeysuckle). After tightening the straps the stand became much safer and stood just fine for a few more years until we moved to a different area on a different property. Now that stand is in a three-trunked hickory that would have provided excellent support if the stand fell again (it would only have gone a foot or so to either side; we set it against the center trunk), but it never has. Unfortunately the trunk to the right of the stand snapped in a storm this summer and now part of that support and cover is gone.
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Post by stevein on Oct 4, 2023 14:52:43 GMT -5
I hunted ONCE with a guy that thought the double set triggers on a TC Hawken were the safety. I know a lot of guys fear hunting public land. But the majority of hunting accident reports I see are self inflicted, falls from a stand, or by a hunting partner. Oh my… remembering my TC Hawken when the set trigger was pulled the fire trigger was a hair trigger. Breathe on it and it was boom. Most deer hunting accidents are falls from trees.. What I meant was unset DST was safety. The function unset was about 10 lbs+. I showed him when we got back to the truck that unset was just a crappy trigger pull. When I made my .54 caplock I did not put DST on it. My first rifle did and I found cold fingers and a hair trigger did not mix.
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Post by astronankin on Oct 4, 2023 15:14:00 GMT -5
I still remember when I was in 8th grade two boys in my class were out with 22s. One slipped and accidentally shot the other boy and killed him. Brad Fouts. Will never forget that What year was this? When I took Hunter's Ed over in Tippecanoe Co. back when I started hunting 10 years ago the COs in charge showed a video at the beginning where two friends went out shooting and they didn't handle the gun safely and one kid was behind his friend getting ready to shoot and slipped and learned a lesson about having his finger on the trigger before being ready to shoot the very very hard way. It might have been the incident you are talking about. Think it happened in Tippecanoe Co. or the surrounding area. I remember the kid who was killed had just turned 14 years old or somewhere in that age range.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 4, 2023 15:21:46 GMT -5
I’ve hunted with a crossbow for 22 years and I have an extremely hard time believing that a TenPoint crossbow would discharge from a safe position just by being dropped about a foot (rail to seat)..
Strictly a guess but I’d say he had it on fire and when the crossbow slipped it caught on something or he tried to catch it and that triggered it.
As we all have said - only load the arrow when you are settled in.
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