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Post by Woody Williams on May 17, 2022 15:01:30 GMT -5
Rob, Just like so many other things the government wants control and apiece of the pie. With the line of thinking that marriage is a religious contract then only religious people, and more specifically only those with whome one shares the same religious beliefs, can be married. I think you are misreading what I posted. You posted -“Marriage has always been a government institution.” I’m saying that is not true. At one time governments had nothing to do with marriages. Personally I don’t care how or who an individual wants to get married to. I’m surprised that there isn’t a push for polygamy. I’ve seen where people married their cat or a tree in their yard. Looking at divorce rates it appears to me that present day marriages mean very little to an increasing number of people.
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Post by boman on May 17, 2022 19:16:35 GMT -5
In the U.S. can anyone get married without the government's permission? Where can people get married without a marriage license? Where can people exit a marriage with government approval? Here's a little history might clear some thins up. Common law marriage is still recognized in 10 states( ie no license). it was recognised by all 13 Colonies/States when the constitution was adopted and remained legal in most states until the 20th century. Woody is mostly correct in that marriage is based on religious beliefs, especially the catholic church. moral/religious values cloud the real issue behind Roe vs. Wade. Roe vs. Wade is supposed to be about a woman's rights (to choose in this case). you guys have forgotten the women's rights movement of the late 60's early 70's. Roe vs. Wade is/was just a clever legal maneuver to avoid the constitutional amendment process and the supreme court at that time overstepped their constitutional authority. The current court is trying to get back to their real purpose by striking it down. Women had no rights under English law which is basis for the Constitution(remember there were no Founding Mothers ) and have been fighting for their rights off and on ever since. didn't get sufferage until 1920. I have no problem with them fighting for their rights, same as I would do but I'm already a "privileged white male ". Steve
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Post by SFC (R) B on May 18, 2022 0:05:42 GMT -5
Please define "THEIR constituents" Marriage has always been a government institution. Pot was outlawed because of big business lobbying to get their way. THEIR constituents being the electorate for whatever office they were elected. Marriage most certainly HAS NOT always been a government institution. For most of recorded history it was simply a religious covenant or union with the rules for marriage and dissolution thereof controlled by respective religious entities. The federal government in the US did not formally recognize civil marriage in law until 1913. All states did not have corresponding laws regarding marriage licenses until 1929. And, yes business interests were the driving force for the overwhelming media push to demonize cannabis.
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