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Post by onebentarrow on Mar 21, 2022 15:13:06 GMT -5
I would like to hunt the early ky muzzelloader season. Because of age,ingeries and some health isues I can not do the public land hunt any more. I can not walk far. I can not drag my deer far and putting up a stand is difficult so I am limited to a guide or an invitation from someone. I am not looking for a big buck, just a good hunt with a respectable chance at a decent deer. I love the hunt and look at it as a vacation,a chance to see new territory,meet new people,new experance. Just taking a buck does not make the trip a great trip. I have been on hunts where I took game and it was not a good hunt. Bad people,bad accommodations,bad guides,bad stands Flat out lied to but I have been on hunts with no game taken that were great hunts. I am tight with my money, (I do not have much), but I do not expect some thing for nothing, a fair price may not be in my budget,that doesn't mean it was not a fair price,just I can not afford it. I have hunted out of tents,truck campers,pull campers and fancy lodges. Each has its benifets but none alone made the hunt any more or less enjoyable. With this information does any one have any suggestions or ideas? I will thank you in advance for any information I receive. I will examine it closely and there may be a hunt in my future
Onebentarrow
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Post by span870 on Mar 22, 2022 5:01:58 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet that if you find a lease, a couple guys be willing to come on down and put stands up for you so you can hunt. Only thing you'd have to worry about is getting your deer out.
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Post by steiny on Mar 23, 2022 8:30:05 GMT -5
If you've got good hunting in IN, you might be able to do a "swap hunt" with someone from KY. Find a website KY deer hunters chat on like this, and pop the question(s).
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Post by bartiks on Mar 23, 2022 9:29:42 GMT -5
That's actually a pretty good idea steiny. I never even considered something like that.
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Post by onebentarrow on Mar 23, 2022 12:49:35 GMT -5
If you've got good hunting in IN, you might be able to do a "swap hunt" with someone from KY. Find a website KY deer hunters chat on like this, and pop the question(s). That is not an option. The only place I have to hunt is restricted to me only by the owner. Even if it wasn't I would feel like I was giving some one the shaft because of the quality and numbers in the deer herd in that area.
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Post by onebentarrow on Mar 23, 2022 14:17:16 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet that if you find a lease, a couple guys be willing to come on down and put stands up for you so you can hunt. Only thing you'd have to worry about is getting your deer out. I have really studied this option, here is the but. I am not a drinking,gambling, go to bar,Chace wemon kind of guy. I donot want that distraction in camp. I am 100% focused on the hunt. When it comes to alcohol (if it is my camp) I allow NO CONSUMPTION from daylight until after the evening hunt. Alcohol and guns do not mix period. The only way I can ensure my safety from an accident involving alcohol at any level is no consumption period. I will not go to or acciate with in any manor a venue or gathering that has alcohol and gun handeling. I operate the same on my boat for fishing. Accidents happen,I understand that but if you are consuming alcohol YOU are not doing everything possible to ensure my and your safety in that situation. If you are using hunting and fishing as a reason to drink you are hunting and fishing for the wrong reason. Yes I drink alcohol. I will sit on the porch and drink a beer watching the sun set over the lake or by the woodstove in the evening on a cold day with a mixed drink just NOT when hunting or fishing. I know that because of my hard line on alcohol there are people that will not hunt or fish with me. I except that. I am not going to jeopardize my safety and piece of mind for them or any one else. If I never get to go on another hunt because of it I am ok with that too. Sorry about the long drawn out reply. This is information needed to understand why some things are not available to me. Onebentarrow
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Post by span870 on Mar 24, 2022 4:59:20 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet that if you find a lease, a couple guys be willing to come on down and put stands up for you so you can hunt. Only thing you'd have to worry about is getting your deer out. I have really studied this option, here is the but. I am not a drinking,gambling, go to bar,Chace wemon kind of guy. I donot want that distraction in camp. I am 100% focused on the hunt. When it comes to alcohol (if it is my camp) I allow NO CONSUMPTION from daylight until after the evening hunt. Alcohol and guns do not mix period. The only way I can ensure my safety from an accident involving alcohol at any level is no consumption period. I will not go to or acciate with in any manor a venue or gathering that has alcohol and gun handeling. I operate the same on my boat for fishing. Accidents happen,I understand that but if you are consuming alcohol YOU are not doing everything possible to ensure my and your safety in that situation. If you are using hunting and fishing as a reason to drink you are hunting and fishing for the wrong reason. Yes I drink alcohol. I will sit on the porch and drink a beer watching the sun set over the lake or by the woodstove in the evening on a cold day with a mixed drink just NOT when hunting or fishing. I know that because of my hard line on alcohol there are people that will not hunt or fish with me. I except that. I am not going to jeopardize my safety and piece of mind for them or any one else. If I never get to go on another hunt because of it I am ok with that too. Sorry about the long drawn out reply. This is information needed to understand why some things are not available to me. Onebentarrow Get that 100%. Here's something else to ponder. In this day and age not everyone expects something for doing a favor for someone. My offer was for you to get a lease and at least I would come help you put stands up just so you can continue to hunt. Show up one day, you say stand here, here and here. I leave when done. Not asking to share camp or even hunt. Just a report of your successful harvest. I get there may have been some misunderstanding in both our replies, but I hate that society has come to that point. Each side either expects or thinks the other will expect something in return. I do what I do in hopes when I'm gone I'll be remembered with fondness the way most remembered my father and the way he was. Regardless, the offer stands.
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Post by steiny on Mar 24, 2022 11:25:51 GMT -5
Where did you come up with the assumption that deer hunting is a big booze fest? I'd think you will find most hunters agree with your stance.
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Post by esshup on Mar 24, 2022 11:41:17 GMT -5
Where did you come up with the assumption that deer hunting is a big booze fest? I'd think you will find most hunters agree with your stance. I agree. Every group that I hunt with has a no alcohol rule that is unsaid and nobody even thinks about it.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 24, 2022 11:50:22 GMT -5
Where did you come up with the assumption that deer hunting is a big booze fest? I'd think you will find most hunters agree with your stance. I agree. Every group that I hunt with has a no alcohol rule that is unsaid and nobody even thinks about it. …. Maybe some beers in pm but that’s it!
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Post by onebentarrow on Mar 24, 2022 14:14:59 GMT -5
I have really studied this option, here is the but. I am not a drinking,gambling, go to bar,Chace wemon kind of guy. I donot want that distraction in camp. I am 100% focused on the hunt. When it comes to alcohol (if it is my camp) I allow NO CONSUMPTION from daylight until after the evening hunt. Alcohol and guns do not mix period. The only way I can ensure my safety from an accident involving alcohol at any level is no consumption period. I will not go to or acciate with in any manor a venue or gathering that has alcohol and gun handeling. I operate the same on my boat for fishing. Accidents happen,I understand that but if you are consuming alcohol YOU are not doing everything possible to ensure my and your safety in that situation. If you are using hunting and fishing as a reason to drink you are hunting and fishing for the wrong reason. Yes I drink alcohol. I will sit on the porch and drink a beer watching the sun set over the lake or by the woodstove in the evening on a cold day with a mixed drink just NOT when hunting or fishing. I know that because of my hard line on alcohol there are people that will not hunt or fish with me. I except that. I am not going to jeopardize my safety and piece of mind for them or any one else. If I never get to go on another hunt because of it I am ok with that too. Sorry about the long drawn out reply. This is information needed to understand why some things are not available to me. Onebentarrow Get that 100%. Here's something else to ponder. In this day and age not everyone expects something for doing a favor for someone. My offer was for you to get a lease and at least I would come help you put stands up just so you can continue to hunt. Show up one day, you say stand here, here and here. I leave when done. Not asking to share camp or even hunt. Just a report of your successful harvest. I get there may have been some misunderstanding in both our replies, but I hate that society has come to that point. Each side either expects or thinks the other will expect something in return. I do what I do in hopes when I'm gone I'll be remembered with fondness the way most remembered my father and the way he was. Regardless, the offer stands. Wow. My bad! T thought you ment to lease a property and envite others to help me in return for free hunting. I am glad there are still people like you in this world. You are right on what society has become and how it effects us. Like I said my bad. I never envisioned some one would offer to help for free just because it is their nature, and me being raised independent,do not take advantage of some ones kindness, do it your self it is hard for me to except that kindness with out feeling guilty. If I insulted you I sincerely apologize. Onebentarrow I will answer the alcohol related responses in the next post
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Post by onebentarrow on Mar 24, 2022 15:05:24 GMT -5
Where did you come up with the assumption that deer hunting is a big booze fest? I'd think you will find most hunters agree with your stance. Some of it is family,som from some weekend excursions in my younger years with coworkers,some from listening to others about their weekend hunts and some from just listening to others and how every thing revolves around drinking. My life experance may be jaded because of my family and the people I worked with. I sincerely hope that is the case but it is what it is and what I experenced. I know the one bad apple rule but in my life the basket sat too long and most of the apples were rotten. I am happy for you that your experience has been better than mine. I my self have ran a cross fue people that fit your description. All I can do is keep trying to find them. I will be so great full when or if I do. Onebentarrow
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Post by freedomhunter on Mar 24, 2022 17:14:51 GMT -5
Sounds like you have deer hunted with a bunch of waterfowlers in the past! I'm sure someone would be interested maybe post what county you are in. There are a bunch of good and kind people on this site, not to mention great hunters.
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Post by treetop on Mar 25, 2022 7:00:45 GMT -5
Where did you come up with the assumption that deer hunting is a big booze fest? I'd think you will find most hunters agree with your stance. Some of it is family,som from some weekend excursions in my younger years with coworkers,some from listening to others about their weekend hunts and some from just listening to others and how every thing revolves around drinking. My life experance may be jaded because of my family and the people I worked with. I sincerely hope that is the case but it is what it is and what I experenced. I know the one bad apple rule but in my life the basket sat too long and most of the apples were rotten. I am happy for you that your experience has been better than mine. I my self have ran a cross fue people that fit your description. All I can do is keep trying to find them. I will be so great full when or if I do. Onebentarrow Your camp your rules Myself I do drink but after hunting not during I believe most people with any sense are the same way I truly enjoy a cold beer or a mixed drink after work or at the campfire or sitting on the deck with friends but drinking and drinking can be two different things I hope it works out for you and you find some place to hunt.
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Post by treetop on Mar 25, 2022 7:09:04 GMT -5
If you got a lease to share with other people make no drinking part of the rules. I’ve looked at some down south and they have all kinds of rules that are in place I believe if you got it going you could fill the lease with like minded people without a lot of trouble.
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Post by treetop on Mar 25, 2022 13:07:33 GMT -5
Just thought about it have you looked into a handicap hunt here in IN I know zip about them to offer advice
Not sure what area your looking for in KY but the few areas I’ve hunted were up hill both ways not going to be very easy if you have issues walking I’m sure some parts are flat.
Something else and maybe it’s not your idea of hunting but places like TX have high fence hunting I know they have trucks they hunt out of I think they are called high tops
I’ve never went but I’ve seen a lot of places out west that offer cow elk hunts most claim about anyone can fo it myself I think it would be a good trip lower cost most have dang near 100% kill so you’d get some good eats and it keeps you in the game
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