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Post by jjas on Sept 21, 2021 13:50:57 GMT -5
How bad must a person want to be known in the whitetail world to pay (lord only knows how much) to kill a giant penned deer then try to check it in another state so that (I can only guess) he could get his 15 minutes of fame (thanks Field and Stream) and try to go around telling his story and making a few dollars along the way. IMO, the state of Kentucky should ban him from hunting for a few years. As far as confiscating his deer, it's a legally killed deer (a penned deer, but a legally killed deer nonetheless) so I don't see how anyone could take his buck. What I do hope happens is that every time he looks @ that buck it doesn't bring him pleasure, but the feelings of guilt and embarrassment for trying to pull off such a ridiculous stunt. In the end, it's just another sad tale that illustrates how utterly goofy some people get when it comes to big bucks and the notoriety that can sometimes come with killing them. I could it being confiscated like items are confiscated that were purchased legally but used in committing a crime. I doubt he will feel any guilt and embarrassment at all, If that were true, he never would have tried to pull what he did. Time will tell if the state of Kentucky tries to confiscate his deer. It is a legal kill in Indiana so it's not like he poached the deer. As far as the embarassment goes. He likely won't feel it, but let's hope he's human enough that he does.
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Post by freedomhunter on Sept 21, 2021 15:29:02 GMT -5
What he did maybe constitutes fraud, but he didnt really hurt anyone or damage anything except his ego. Just another idiot
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Post by greghopper on Sept 21, 2021 17:13:01 GMT -5
That hunter is cool, he suspected and basically knew he had a high fenced deer coming to bait. Young man is having a blast with all this and I even messaged a bit on facebook on a page with him about his harvest photos. I told him to petition Kansas DNR to issue him another tag if they already haven't - as of then it sounded like there was confusion if he even legally had to tag it as a Kansas wild deer harvest. So why should he be given another deer tag when knowingly with almost certain it’s a escaped deer and killed it? As long as he can keep the deer then yes his tag is lost IMO
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 21, 2021 17:16:09 GMT -5
That hunter is cool, he suspected and basically knew he had a high fenced deer coming to bait. Young man is having a blast with all this and I even messaged a bit on facebook on a page with him about his harvest photos. I told him to petition Kansas DNR to issue him another tag if they already haven't - as of then it sounded like there was confusion if he even legally had to tag it as a Kansas wild deer harvest. So why should he be given another deer tag when knowingly with almost certain it’s a escaped deer and killed it? As long as he can keep the deer then yes his tag is lost IMO Not me.. he killed a livestock not a wild Kansas deer. No tags needed for livestock. But I bet it doesn’t matter to him as he can’t top this one.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 21, 2021 17:19:27 GMT -5
What he did maybe constitutes fraud, but he didnt really hurt anyone or damage anything except his ego. Just another idiot I would imagine that KDFWR will fine him for falsifying his check in. He actually had two entries, both antlered.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 21, 2021 17:28:42 GMT -5
So why should he be given another deer tag when knowingly with almost certain it’s a escaped deer and killed it? As long as he can keep the deer then yes his tag is lost IMO Not me.. he killed a livestock not a wild Kansas deer. No tags needed for livestock. But I bet it doesn’t matter to him as he can’t top this one. I see where there’s also a push to allow it to be entered in the books…. That can’t happen also If it’s “livestock” then the owners should be picking up their property! Guess it’s up to state(Kansas)to decide if his tag can legally be used or if he knowingly tagged the deer illegally to place it in the books.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Sept 21, 2021 20:12:29 GMT -5
As for the Kansas "buck" in my opinion no way does it make any book. That said I hold no weight in books or scores a good deer is one you enjoyed taking no matter the size. You gotta admit though, if that sucker dhowed up under your stand it wouldn't go far without a shot being taken!
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Post by esshup on Sept 21, 2021 23:38:02 GMT -5
So why should he be given another deer tag when knowingly with almost certain it’s a escaped deer and killed it? As long as he can keep the deer then yes his tag is lost IMO Not me.. he killed a livestock not a wild Kansas deer. No tags needed for livestock. But I bet it doesn’t matter to him as he can’t top this one. I agree with Woody.
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Post by stevein on Sept 22, 2021 8:59:24 GMT -5
So if it is livestock could he legaly kill it? If that Kentucyana buck was worth $10K wouldn't this one be worth about the same? I realize loose livestock law varies from state to state. Would it be the same as a bull or a horse loose? How about dogs? On the other hand he should have mentioned the High fence name. The country wide exposure would be worth as much as the buck.
Wasn't there a similar case a few years back where a high fence buck was shot?
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Post by INhuntin on Sept 22, 2021 18:02:22 GMT -5
Since he falsely reported that it was taken in the state of KY the DNR should confiscate it for evidence. If he lied about it he will probably lie about shooting any deer. He should loose his hunting license.
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