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Post by titanium700 on Jul 26, 2021 8:42:38 GMT -5
This spring I bought a Ravin. I had 2 reasons for doing it. 1. My son was born with one hand missing, he can shoot a vertical very proficient with light clothes on but when it gets cold and he has to wear a jacket things go awry. Last year he goofed 3 shots on 3 different deer and he got discouraged. That will change this year. 2. I got the Ravin for half price. New.
I told him I also wouldn’t mind taking it out a day or two when he’s not hunting with me. (Which might be often this year now as he has a girlfriend. ) lol
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Post by tynimiller on Jul 26, 2021 8:54:48 GMT -5
If it brings more hunters to party then it's a good thing. Seems common sense to me to have different record books for different weapons but in reality hunting records are a way to make money for those in charge of record book and hunter is paying to read their name in book. I have no issues with either. Debating on whether or not to get crossbow for grandkids or use firearms for their 1st youth season. I know I will most likely teach Bryson some day on a crossbow rather than a gun. IMO teaches much better patience for the right shot, not just a shot. The closer shots, not the "hope" shots. My good friend, who is a massively skilled rifle shooter, decided to keep his young boy's first season centered around a crossbow - and he is one of those that vehemently refuses to touch the things until he physically has to.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jul 26, 2021 9:12:40 GMT -5
Crossbow sometimes. Gave up on bows awhile ago. Mainly gun hunt anymore.
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Post by boonechaser on Jul 26, 2021 9:38:10 GMT -5
If it brings more hunters to party then it's a good thing. Seems common sense to me to have different record books for different weapons but in reality hunting records are a way to make money for those in charge of record book and hunter is paying to read their name in book. I have no issues with either. Debating on whether or not to get crossbow for grandkids or use firearms for their 1st youth season. I know I will most likely teach Bryson some day on a crossbow rather than a gun. IMO teaches much better patience for the right shot, not just a shot. The closer shots, not the "hope" shots. My good friend, who is a massively skilled rifle shooter, decided to keep his young boy's first season centered around a crossbow - and he is one of those that vehemently refuses to touch the things until he physically has to. Valid points. Both grandkids have shot .22 and I bought a .410 for them as well, which they have shot some. Gun's can be a bit intimidating for them I think, esp. the .410. Crossbow would be easier for them to learn off I believe as well and Ill most likely go ahead and get one in next few weeks.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Jul 26, 2021 9:42:31 GMT -5
I put away my vertical and gave it to my son two years ago. I turned the pull weight down to 50 lbs. and I could pull the string back, but I could not hold it steady at all. I preferred at the time to not to take the chance of wounding a deer. I do think I could shoot the vertical today. Shoulder is lot better and my overall health is much better today. I've taken myself off all but one chemical doctor prescribed drug. I only take Singular for my allergies. There is even a good chance to end that one soon after having sinus surgery 2.5 weeks ago. Now I need to get my shoulder fixed.
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Post by sculver7 on Jul 26, 2021 9:50:07 GMT -5
I hunt with a vertical bow. I bought a Tenpoint crossbow back in 2013 because my right arm was badly burned in a fire and I would not be able to use my release for my vertical bow. I used the crossbow that season and then went back to the vertical bow. My only issue with a crossbow being used during the regular archery season is this: a lot of people now hunt during archery that wouldn't have when it was limited to vertical bows. This has led to a MASSIVE upswing in the overall number of people hunting during archery only which sounds great, except that a lot of these people that are now hunting during the archery season that weren't prior, i have first hand witnessed displaying downright disgusting archery hunting ethics. Being that I hunted almost exclusively public land and being that on that public land, there are large areas that are bow-only areas, there are many more people hunting during that timeframe and in areas that they never used to hunt. The fact is that hunting with a vertical bow requires more attention to detail and practice than a compound bow does. I totally support crossbows for those who can't use a vertical bow, whether it be a handicap or just age related (both young and old). That being said, I do not like that crossbows are regulated the same as vertical bows. I almost feel that there should be a particular season for vertical bows only and maybe some attention paid to areas of public land that crossbows can be used in regards to vertical bows. Just like I don't really like the fact that muzzleloader season started out for those who used traditional muzzleloaders and now there are muzzleloaders being made that are basically just a one shot rifle. These are just my opinions.
As for the record books, Pope and Young can make whatever rules they want as they are their own entity. If it was up to me, crossbows would be a different category than vertical bows, and traditional bows would be a different category than compound bows. I however, am not the one making decisions for Pope and Young.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jul 26, 2021 10:27:27 GMT -5
Tried a few crossbows while rehabbing from a stroke I had 11 years ago. As my rehabbing the left side (bow arm) strength and stability progressed, I sold the ones I had bought (used) to experiment with. I did buy yet another one, new, about three years ago and practiced enough with it to get sighted in and confident that I could responsibly hunt with it if I really needed to use it in the future. It has remained at the ready in a closet since, but will probably only be put to use in a situation like a very cold late-season sit.
I practice a lot on a year-round basis with my compound, and will be hunting with it again this fall. I prefer it because of the quiet shots that have very seldom spooked deer. The only two that I can recall spooking at the shot were looking at me at the time and already tensed up and suspicious. Several have been mortally wounded without realizing they were in danger.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jul 26, 2021 13:49:27 GMT -5
I hunt with a vertical bow. I bought a Tenpoint crossbow back in 2013 because my right arm was badly burned in a fire and I would not be able to use my release for my vertical bow. I used the crossbow that season and then went back to the vertical bow. My only issue with a crossbow being used during the regular archery season is this: a lot of people now hunt during archery that wouldn't have when it was limited to vertical bows. This has led to a MASSIVE upswing in the overall number of people hunting during archery only which sounds great, except that a lot of these people that are now hunting during the archery season that weren't prior, i have first hand witnessed displaying downright disgusting archery hunting ethics. Being that I hunted almost exclusively public land and being that on that public land, there are large areas that are bow-only areas, there are many more people hunting during that timeframe and in areas that they never used to hunt. The fact is that hunting with a vertical bow requires more attention to detail and practice than a compound bow does. I totally support crossbows for those who can't use a vertical bow, whether it be a handicap or just age related (both young and old). That being said, I do not like that crossbows are regulated the same as vertical bows. I almost feel that there should be a particular season for vertical bows only and maybe some attention paid to areas of public land that crossbows can be used in regards to vertical bows. Just like I don't really like the fact that muzzleloader season started out for those who used traditional muzzleloaders and now there are muzzleloaders being made that are basically just a one shot rifle. These are just my opinions. As for the record books, Pope and Young can make whatever rules they want as they are their own entity. If it was up to me, crossbows would be a different category than vertical bows, and traditional bows would be a different category than compound bows. I however, am not the one making decisions for Pope and Young. I used to feel the same way you do, I would practice my bow year round and killed a whole bunch of Styrofoam with it. For some reason I would get target panic and screw up shots on live deer, I wounded too many in my opinion, I switched to a crossbow and have had great experiences since starting the use of a crossbow, I find the hunt to be just as difficult but the panic is gone and the blood trail is much shorter and there's a deer at the end of it. I don't fault you for your point of view, I used to be right there with you. Hopefully this year might be less crowded than last year. Good luck whatever the situation is in your area this year.
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Post by sculver7 on Jul 26, 2021 15:38:32 GMT -5
I hunt with a vertical bow. I bought a Tenpoint crossbow back in 2013 because my right arm was badly burned in a fire and I would not be able to use my release for my vertical bow. I used the crossbow that season and then went back to the vertical bow. My only issue with a crossbow being used during the regular archery season is this: a lot of people now hunt during archery that wouldn't have when it was limited to vertical bows. This has led to a MASSIVE upswing in the overall number of people hunting during archery only which sounds great, except that a lot of these people that are now hunting during the archery season that weren't prior, i have first hand witnessed displaying downright disgusting archery hunting ethics. Being that I hunted almost exclusively public land and being that on that public land, there are large areas that are bow-only areas, there are many more people hunting during that timeframe and in areas that they never used to hunt. The fact is that hunting with a vertical bow requires more attention to detail and practice than a compound bow does. I totally support crossbows for those who can't use a vertical bow, whether it be a handicap or just age related (both young and old). That being said, I do not like that crossbows are regulated the same as vertical bows. I almost feel that there should be a particular season for vertical bows only and maybe some attention paid to areas of public land that crossbows can be used in regards to vertical bows. Just like I don't really like the fact that muzzleloader season started out for those who used traditional muzzleloaders and now there are muzzleloaders being made that are basically just a one shot rifle. These are just my opinions. As for the record books, Pope and Young can make whatever rules they want as they are their own entity. If it was up to me, crossbows would be a different category than vertical bows, and traditional bows would be a different category than compound bows. I however, am not the one making decisions for Pope and Young. I used to feel the same way you do, I would practice my bow year round and killed a whole bunch of Styrofoam with it. For some reason I would get target panic and screw up shots on live deer, I wounded too many in my opinion, I switched to a crossbow and have had great experiences since starting the use of a crossbow, I find the hunt to be just as difficult but the panic is gone and the blood trail is much shorter and there's a deer at the end of it. I don't fault you for your point of view, I used to be right there with you. Hopefully this year might be less crowded than last year. Good luck whatever the situation is in your area this year. I could see that it would definitely help with target panic. My issue is more with those that pick up a crossbow for more hunting opportunities, but not having the proper ethics and respect for hunting with archery equipment. However, that could be said for firearms too or any legal equipment. Fully support crossbow use for people that use it properly and with good intent. Good luck to you this year. I think it's going to be a good one!
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Post by darinfry on Jul 31, 2021 6:28:19 GMT -5
Have a stryker crossbow and really like it. Bow hunted for years and killed a few deer but recently I developed a horrible case of target panic. I tried to stay with the vertical but gut shot a doe and gave it up for good. No matter what weapon you use things will still happen but I feel a person has to know themselves and know that they are proficient with what they use
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Post by raydon on Jul 31, 2021 8:13:52 GMT -5
I also hunt with both, compound and crossbow. As the years fly by my muscles have deteriorated. Four years ago I purchased my first crossbow. At age 65 now I only hunt from the ground, just for safety sakes. For me, the compound is a little more difficult to hunt with from the ground. I also reduced my range to 25 yards with the compound. My crossbow is more heavier and bulky to lug around the woods, but I can positively hunt humanely to forty yards. My thoughts are whatever can keep me in the woods longer is my choice.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jul 31, 2021 8:30:58 GMT -5
What I find interesting is the # of people that are telling us they use both and that the #'s are so close. I might do another closer yo October and add the both option.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jul 31, 2021 12:22:35 GMT -5
What I find interesting is the # of people that are telling us they use both and that the #'s are so close. I might do another closer yo October and add the both option. I didn’t know I couldn’t pick two so I clicked crossbow first, but I use both throughout the season.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jul 31, 2021 12:35:35 GMT -5
I think you can only pick one I could be wrong though.
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Post by bill9068 on Jul 31, 2021 14:03:58 GMT -5
Last 5 years been strictly crossbow but I do bring my compound in case something breaks. That sounds like a plan, unfortunately I can't justify the extra weight on my hike in. I'd be pouring sweat out by the gallon. I leave one or the other in the truck, do not carry both to the climber.
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Post by genesis273 on Aug 1, 2021 10:52:35 GMT -5
I have used both and harvested deer with both. However, at this point, I am just hunting with a compound only.
Both have their pros and cons. Although I'm sure the days coming that I'll have to switch to crossbow or greatly reduce the poundage on my compound. Two different shoulder injuries (coupled with my failure to rehabilitate them properly) is starting to catch up with me.
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Post by omegahunter on Aug 3, 2021 10:09:43 GMT -5
I hunt with both. Got a crossbow the year I had the motorcycle incident and broke my wrist. I could hold my bow, but couldn't take holding it while drawing back. I've killed a couple with crossbow, but feel more accomplished getting it done with the vertical (if that makes sense). However, I am all about diversity and use muzzleloaders, pistols, rifles, crossbow, and bow.
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Post by treetop on Aug 4, 2021 16:53:07 GMT -5
Vertical only and for the most all I use I’ve killed enough deer so I enjoy the challenge that goes with it. If it comes down to it and the fat lady is singing I’ll pick up a gun and meat hunt and for the most that’s all I really am anyway
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Post by 36fan on Aug 6, 2021 9:09:03 GMT -5
In light of the Pope and Young changes I thought it would be interesting to see how many of out members hunt with a crossbow vs. A vertical bow. I do not wish to start any debates over ethics or elitist vs good ol' boy or whatever the choices will be crossbow, vertical, or firearm only but if you hunt with a paticular type like a long bow or recurve or whatever I'd like to see that in the coments. Thank you and good luck this season! Where is the option for both?
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Post by Ahawkeye on Aug 6, 2021 12:20:03 GMT -5
In light of the Pope and Young changes I thought it would be interesting to see how many of out members hunt with a crossbow vs. A vertical bow. I do not wish to start any debates over ethics or elitist vs good ol' boy or whatever the choices will be crossbow, vertical, or firearm only but if you hunt with a paticular type like a long bow or recurve or whatever I'd like to see that in the coments. Thank you and good luck this season! Where is the option for both? I will post another survey in about a month to try to get all the filks that use both. I didn't realize there would be so many using both. Very interesting to see that though.
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